cdusgk91
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For sure @2Dumb2Plumb ill take that advice. Ill keep my diet and training on par and after next cycle I'll be a monster. Probably get on the tren train next go around 
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Don't blast and cruise wait until you have to. If your going to continually cycle it won't be long before you have to anyway. Once your natural t falls below 300 and your LH and FSH are normal then it's time for Trt. Then blast away fuck it@Just Fish dont do what exactly? I guess I'll just go the route of a good PCTwait a few months and get back on @2Dumb2Plumb
MoneyShot
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I've been wondering about the timeline to having to cruise to maintain gains as well, that's kind of the downside once you start. I'll probably do 2 cycles/year...and I mean fuck starting in my early/mid 20s, I feel like I'll be topped out in a couple years and have to cruise just to maintain
Blast and cruisethat's the real dark side.
My only real concern is fertility with this route, I got a buddy who does it...he already has a kid though, and I don't forsee kids in my future anytime soon. Not sure if I'd still be good to go after cruising for years, ya know? Then again I haven't researched that too much either
For sure @2Dumb2Plumb ill take that advice. Ill keep my diet and training on par and after next cycle I'll be a monster. Probably get on the tren train next go around
Brah! I feel good right now, third week of PCT starts the 27th. Libido is down, I can get full erections no problem, it's just the desire primarily - dunno if I could fuck back to back to back like I could on cycle lol. Energy levels seem pretty good overall, maybe down a bit, but I'm still hitting PRs. Confidence and that whole aura, you kind of have around you when you're on is mostly gone. Keep your calories up during PCT, I dropped a couple lbs, but have been maintaining 246-248lbs in the morning consistently.
I personally see no problem running 16 weeks - I got to my first injection of week 14, and would have gone longer. Test e I might research 20 week cycles in the future even. I dunno man trt may not be that far off, but it's just the lifestyle I want to live. Test actually made me more "chill" if that makes sense, I just felt happier. Now I'm back to my ol cynical negative self lol
cdusgk91
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@MoneyShot thanks for the updates man I really appreciate it. So I'm at my 12 week mark right now I can't decide wether to extend to 16 weeks or just do my pct and wait 4 months to jump back on. I felt great this cycle tho strength and weight went way up. If I do go the pct route right now at 12 weeks I might try your doses of NolVa/clomid..
cdusgk91
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I definitely don't want to come off lol... if I do stop now I'll continue to eat like a horse and train like crazy. I did buy another bottle of test E just in case I want to extend to 16 weeks. Any advice??
If you don't mind having to take it for the rest of your life have at it. I say wait until you have too
cdusgk91
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@Just Fish ill come off and wait a few months
MoneyShot
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My thought is just what's the recovery difference going to be between 12 and 16 weeks? I did run HCG the duration of mine, are you running HCG?
I don't think it will hurt you to stay on another 4 weeks, I guess is the point I'm making from what I've read.
Then again, better safe than sorry, and there's no real downside to coming off at 12 weeks...especially considering you're planning another just down the road.
I'd think about if you're happy with your gains thus far and what you're motivation is like. If all is good, fuck it go for it
If I was going to cycle I would definitely run hcg while on cycle and through pct, especially when your nuts start to shrink. Makes more sense to keep your LH and FSH up as much as possible
cdusgk91
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@MoneyShot @Just Fish i did not run hcg through my cycle even though I had it :/ don't ask why I know it was a bad choice. I plan on running it through my pct though
MoneyShot
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@cdusgk91 lol c'mon bro!! It's not the end of the world, I'd blast HCG hard before the end of the cycle, sounds like you're doing it on PCT too which is good. i'm interested to compare our recovery methods.
I may have dropped some water weight this last week or something, my weight dropped several lbs randomly. Strength and everything is still the same. Libido is what's killing me. I think I'll get some cialis the next time around.
Man the temptation to jump back on is fucking real, lemme tell you. Just started dating this hot chick, and I'm fucking like the worse version of myself hahaha. Godammit
I may have dropped some water weight this last week or something, my weight dropped several lbs randomly. Strength and everything is still the same. Libido is what's killing me. I think I'll get some cialis the next time around.
Man the temptation to jump back on is fucking real, lemme tell you. Just started dating this hot chick, and I'm fucking like the worse version of myself hahaha. Godammit
cdusgk91
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Daaaaaaamn @MoneyShot get some cialis quick man... and yeah I'm going to blast hcg before and use during pct. as far as your weight drop goes I think a few lbs is to be expected. Keep your diet on point and your strength will be steady
MoneyShot
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Man the first couple weeks were a little rough there in the middle, felt like I lost some girth for a few days lmao. I feel alright now (at least today). Planning on post cycle bloods mid/late December. Then pre cycle #2 bloods in maybe Feb/March
Dropped my Nolva to 10mg this week (I'll adjust if I get any sensitivity). Feel pretty good otherwise.
Kind of feel like the intensity I had pre-cycle is kicking back in this week. A lot more drive and motivation
2Dumb2Plumb
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hCG should be blasted prior to PCT or it will further suppress your ability to restart your natural hormonal levels. Atleast 14 days before PCT 1000-2000ius eod I believe not entirely sure. I use hCG on cycle at 1000ius a week split 500ius twice a week. You should seriously look up how to blast hCG before PCT... definitely isn't helpful to use hCG during PCT because it's just going to cause more estrogen spikes and effect the response of clomid. Then again I've never done PCT so someone who has should chime in... I mean someone who has x amount of experience with cycling/PCT.
cdusgk91
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@2Dumb2Plumb thank you for this. I'll look further into the hcg blast
1-.****Switch to prop man.
Do week12,13,14 teste Prop and on week 15 you start pct .
Personally I wait 3 weeks after last shot of teste e to start pct.
2.-***If you go straight 16 weeks test E means that's you wold have to wait up to week 19 to start pct .
There's a gap of 6 weeks in between this two scenarios I wold choose the firsth one .
Remember that more you stay ON the harder it gets to recover .
MoneyShot
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Solid advice right here - I appreciate it and it's completely sound logic. I waited 3 weeks to start PCT on this test e cycle. My only concern with test prop is pinning more often
@cdusgk91 Brah, gonna be running a test/tren cycle early next year to cut. I decided on it 100%. Just gotta get the doses down and order probably January. Gotta source a few things too
For me it gets to a point that I can't wait to pin again . So test prop is the route as tail for me
EOD .
Mon,wed,fri,sund, 4 pins in total x week.
cdusgk91
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@MoneyShot right on man... I'm going to be doing the same except I won't be starting until march or April
good times ahead
