Test E to Prop Acne??

[mkulltra58]

I use ai and I'm getting pimples on my face and forehead. .5mg EOD my estrogen level is 47.


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47 is pretty high for most guys around here. Most like to be in the 20's

 

[Wood4days]

47 is pretty high for most guys around here. Most like to be in the 20's

Fuck really? Before gear I was at 16.7

I thought 47 is normal for pinning 500mg test a week. If my E drops to low won't my gains come slower? So what do you recommend? .5mg ED?

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[mkulltra58]

Fuck really? Before gear I was at 16.7

I thought 47 is normal for pinning 500mg test a week. If my E drops to low won't my gains come slower? So what do you recommend? .5mg ED?

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The point of using an ai is to keep your e2 close to where it is naturally. We want our testosterone levels to go up and our estrogen to stay about the same.

You are in a different and difficult situation because you just switched esters. You could up it little for the next week or two.

 

[Wood4days]

The point of using an ai is to keep your e2 close to where it is naturally. We want our testosterone levels to go up and our estrogen to stay about the same.

You are in a different and difficult situation because you just switched esters. You could up it little for the next week or two.

What do you mean I switch esters?

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[mkulltra58]

What do you mean I switch esters?

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Nevermind, it was OP that switched from Test E to Prop.

 

[Wood4days]

Ok

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[mudbutt22]

Guys tend want to blame estrogen as the sole cause but the fact is any hormonal abnormality/imbalance can cause acne. A sky high test level is certainly an abnormality. Test alone can cause acne by itself regardless of your estrogen level.

 

[Wood4days]

Guys tend want to blame estrogen as the sole cause but the fact is any hormonal abnormality/imbalance can cause acne. A sky high test level is certainly an abnormality. Test alone can cause acne by itself regardless of your estrogen level.

But is there a range which estrogen has to be at when on test 500mg a week? I hear some people say 47, 50 is ok if you don't experience estrogen side effects. While some say you need to be in the 20's.

Can you chime in on this?

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[mudbutt22]

It just varies based on the individual. Some do fine in the 40s-50s and some get sides in that range. I personally feel great in that 47 range. IMO if you're not experiencing estrogen related sides, don't use an AI at all. The less drugs the better. AIs have their own set of side effects so it's best not to use one if it isn't necessary.

 

[Wood4days]

It just varies based on the individual. Some do fine in the 40s-50s and some get sides in that range. I personally feel great in that 47 range. IMO if you're not experiencing estrogen related sides, don't use an AI at all. The less drugs the better. AIs have their own set of side effects so it's best not to use on if it isn't necessary.

I see. So better to do gear without the ai until I feel sides like itchy nips then that's when an ai should be used?

Besides pimple and oily face. I feel great.

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[mudbutt22]

I see. So better to do gear without the ai until I feel sides like itchy nips then that's when an ai should be used?

Besides pimple and oily face. I feel great.

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That's how I feel about it. There's definitely differing opinions though.

 

[Wood4days]

That's how I feel about it. There's definitely differing opinions though.

But what I have read is the "sweet spot" is to keep estrogen between 20-30. Won't to high of estrogen cause bloat, fat fingers, and enlarge prostate?

Forgot to mention. Besides oily face, and pimples. I am also having bloat.

I want to lower my estrogen down to that 20-30 range but I'm not sure how. If I'm doing .5mg EOD what do I need to do to get it down to 20-30? .5mg ED? .25ED?

If arimidex lowers your Estrogen by 50%-60% and I'm at 47 which means without it I'm actually at 94. If .5mg arimidex EOD puts me at 47. Then If I take .5mg ED then it will cut 47 in half to 23.5?

Or better yet just take .75 EOD haha. Yea this is what I will do

Damn it's so confusing.

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[mudbutt22]

But what I have read is the "sweet spot" is to keep estrogen between 20-30. Won't to high of estrogen cause bloat, fat fingers, and enlarge prostate

Yeah it definitely can. You might just not do well in that range.

I don't think the math is that simple unfortunately. It's really trial and error. I would try bumping to .75 eod and see how you do.

The key is to find out your queues. If I'm too high my libido gets fucked up. If I'm to low my joints get sore. Other people get sore nipples or water retention.

 

[Wood4days]

Yeah it definitely can. You might just not do well in that range.

I don't think the math is that simple unfortunately. It's really trial and error. I would try bumping to .75 eod and see how you do.

The key is to find out your queues. If I'm too high my libido gets fucked up. If I'm to low my joints get sore. Other people get sore nipples or water retention.

Yea I'll try .75 EOD and go by feel.

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