Test E vs Test E raws.

[y777]

Hi guys

Been brewing for a bit and have mainly brewed test p, along other compounds, in blends. Got a few questions and apologies for some not being brew specific

I only ever dealt with enan prop and no ester test raws.

1. When I got my initial enan raws it seemed fine but over months /year the raws kinda melted into a glue like goo, like honey. was this just a bad batch or is this common ? I stored them at room temp , along other raws. Not different than primo, which has same enan ester.


2. Is cyp more stable as a raw ? Does it brew similarly ? I don’t brew high concentration test. If it’s test only I’ve brewed enan at 250 and my blends I’ve taken to 500+ with 3 or 4 compounds, test usually 100 or less.


3. My cruise staple is test and primo. Is cyp closer to primo half life or are differences negligible ? If anyone’s run the blend with both esters I’m curious if you’ve found the difference so that one matches better. I’ve primarily been doing prop in my blends so curious if cyp is better than enan



What I’ve done typically is run my blends as follow
1. Test enan at 150 per week ( my doc prescribed TRT )
2. Stack test prop to wherever I need the cycle to be eg another 150 if I wanna run 350.

For the past six months I’ve not bothered w longer esters and just adjusted my B&C with prop. Taking it down if I need to do bloods etc. however, I’ve recently pinned some rx pharma cyp I have (that I’ve been stockpiling ) And I just feel good overall within a couple of days. Haven’t felt this much of a bump in just outlook when I bump prop dose. Anyway, this got me curious about getting cyp raws. (So I can save my rx cyp vials for travel)

Thank you. Appreciate any feedback


P.s. I’ve been brewing in mct but lately I started brewing in castor oil. Started with winstrol (zero pip , ever , was amazed, and I pinned sub q) and I did primo for my last brew.

 

[Deskoze38192]

1) it’s common, lower melting point. This allows for a higher concentration to be easily brewed and is what some would consider an advantage over cyp. Eth is most commonly brewed at 300 mg/ml where cyp is most commonly brewed at 200 mg/ml

2) cyp will remain a powder in raw form.
I prefer cyp myself. I’ve brewed it at 300 with additional BB. I prefer 250 mg/ml since I always run a lot I try to be on the higher side of concentration. 250 1.8/20 does crash on me a little when it gets real cold but it doesn’t really get cold here so that works for me. With Cyp 200 mg/ml is going to be most user friendly

3)Primo is enanthate ester
Eth and Cyp are basically the same ester, close enough anyway

 

[ThinBulk]

My test e was slightly goo at 70f. It's normal and actually a great sign you got what you think you have. It just has a low melting point, and not a sign that cyp being a powder with a high melting point is better.

 

[y777]

Hi guys. What’s the best way to salvage test e raws that are melted. They’re not just liquid. They’re the sticky goo and almost like they’re dissolved into the ziploc bag they were in. Afraid to heat the bag to liquify it cuz the bag would prob melt at this I point.

Do I freeze the whole thing and would this allow me to more easily use a spatula to get it all out and into some glass container ?

Thank you !

 

[mochul]

Hi guys. What’s the best way to salvage test e raws that are melted. They’re not just liquid. They’re the sticky goo and almost like they’re dissolved into the ziploc bag they were in. Afraid to heat the bag to liquify it cuz the bag would prob melt at this I point.

Do I freeze the whole thing and would this allow me to more easily use a spatula to get it all out and into some glass container ?

Thank you !

Heat is in water heated to apx 40. It would not melt the plastic but the raws.
You can use a razer too to pick up the gel.

 

[y777]

Heat is in water heated to apx 40. It would not melt the plastic but the raws.
You can use a razer too to pick up the gel.

Thank you. Looks like so much of it melted all over the place. Was only able to salvage enough for 5 ml of 200mg. Grrrr. Melted thru the ziplock baggie and ended up all over the grocery bag it was shoved in.

It’s been a while since I brewed test on its own. Have usually brewed blends.

But now I just learned that I can brew without any bb which was fantastic for subq. Just 1%. Ba

I think just for ease of raws storage maybe cyp is the ester to own if you don’t brew it all at once.


only thing I tried cyp before is pharma I get in the states pharmacy. I think it’s standard 2/20? No pip but lumps up into a ball if subq (CSO).

 

[mochul]

Thank you. Looks like so much of it melted all over the place. Was only able to salvage enough for 5 ml of 200mg. Grrrr. Melted thru the ziplock baggie and ended up all over the grocery bag it was shoved in.

It’s been a while since I brewed test on its own. Have usually brewed blends.

But now I just learned that I can brew without any bb which was fantastic for subq. Just 1%. Ba

I think just for ease of raws storage maybe cyp is the ester to own if you don’t brew it all at once.


only thing I tried cyp before is pharma I get in the states pharmacy. I think it’s standard 2/20? No pip but lumps up into a ball if subq (CSO).

Cso is thick oil and takes longer to absorb. Doing it subq would definitely result in lump if no pip. But since it gives a higher half life, injecting it im is like injecting other oils subq.
Just use test cyp. No pip and no melting problem