test enanthanate soreness (divison1 wrestler)

bear6969

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hey, i need some help/advice...my friend is div1 wrestler...and is taking Qv test enanthante....and after the last two shots he has had some severe irritation and soreness at the injection site...to the point where he couldnt practice....my question is ..what can he do to make there be so much pain .???? another point is i know hes doing the shots himself and there is a possibility hes not doing it right so i plan on giving him his shots...any ways...if anyone knows a trick or different place to do the shots (other than ass) that will cause less pain...please post and help..
 
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bear6969 said:
hey, i need some help/advice...my friend is div1 wrestler...and is taking Qv test enanthante....and after the last two shots he has had some severe irritation and soreness at the injection site...to the point where he couldnt practice....my question is ..what can he do to make there be so much pain .???? another point is i know hes doing the shots himself and there is a possibility hes not doing it right so i plan on giving him his shots...any ways...if anyone knows a trick or different place to do the shots (other than ass) that will cause less pain...please post and help..


no better/larger place than ass,
try with thiomucase/thiomucasein cream to put on irittaion spot, it help absorption and culms down injuries, friend used it after taking suspension and he had bad red lump on ass also ve used it when I had injuried foot and underknee on kickboxing, for outside use only
cheers
 
bro I would recommend he switch brands of test.. all of QV's test products hurt like a mofo (good test though)
 
I agree, I have had more pain with QV test than anything else. Tell him he can warm up the gear before he injects it that helps sometimes. I usually sit the gear in a bowl of hot water and let it sit there for about 5 minutes. It usually helps some.

thanks
killiob
 
killiob said:
I agree, I have had more pain with QV test than anything else. Tell him he can warm up the gear before he injects it that helps sometimes. I usually sit the gear in a bowl of hot water and let it sit there for about 5 minutes. It usually helps some.

thanks
killiob

i will third it ... qv hurt me too. try gpl's!
 
I USED TO AGREE!! Have heard horror stories about the 50ml bottles and i have used it finally and let me tell you...no pain at all..i did also drop down to a 25g and that helped tremendusly. used 23g 1 1/2" in the ass and 25g 1" in quads and no pain at all...buddy used the same batch and tore him up something fierce!!! I also do the same thing as killiob. warm it up for a few min first. Maybe he can drop down to 25g or smaller pin..depending on what he's using to inject...check out www.spotinjections.com some helpful hints on others sites to inject..good luck..What college by the way?? Don't tell if ya dont want too
 
I've heard that QV shit hurts too. Only have experienced with their test prop, though. Even that wasn't too bad and I did eod shots for 12 weeks. The 25g needle should help, not as big of a hole in you as the 25g. If you want you could also cut it with sterile oil or b-12.
 
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Turbo1 said:
I USED TO AGREE!! Have heard horror stories about the 50ml bottles and i have used it finally and let me tell you...no pain at all..i did also drop down to a 25g and that helped tremendusly. used 23g 1 1/2" in the ass and 25g 1" in quads and no pain at all...buddy used the same batch and tore him up something fierce!!! I also do the same thing as killiob. warm it up for a few min first. Maybe he can drop down to 25g or smaller pin..depending on what he's using to inject...check out www.spotinjections.com some helpful hints on others sites to inject..good luck..What college by the way?? Don't tell if ya dont want too


its a SMALL div1 school in the northeast.....hey a few questions...
1.)can i buy that cream over the counter????
2.)if i wanted to cut it with sterile oil, where could i get some fast (preseason starts wed)
3.)will it help any if i cut down to maybe .5 cc and do it in the delts??

thanks for the help...im just worried cuz his season starts wed, and they have to do a 10mile run...so he cant be sore like this....if u guys can help me get this so hes not in pain...if its ok with him...id like to keep this updated as the season goes on and let you know his record on his way to nationals....oh and ya heres some background info: the guy is a 197pounder who was always smaller /weaker to the top div1 guys (he wrestled at about 195 at 14%bodyfat), he decided to even the playing field...and now is up to 225 at 14% bf, so when he cuts down hes gonna be about 197 at 5% and way stronger...i appreciate any help anyone can offer..thanks
 
cutting it with something

rob3412 said:
im a wreslter my self and i recommend he doesnt use deca and test for rolling..



when you guys say try cutting it with another oil....what do u think about b12, usp oil from vials and crimpers???? would that work and if so how much would u use to cut it?
 
bear6969 said:
its a SMALL div1 school in the northeast.....hey a few questions...
1.)can i buy that cream over the counter????
2.)if i wanted to cut it with sterile oil, where could i get some fast (preseason starts wed)
3.)will it help any if i cut down to maybe .5 cc and do it in the delts??

thanks for the help...im just worried cuz his season starts wed, and they have to do a 10mile run...so he cant be sore like this....if u guys can help me get this so hes not in pain...if its ok with him...id like to keep this updated as the season goes on and let you know his record on his way to nationals....oh and ya heres some background info: the guy is a 197pounder who was always smaller /weaker to the top div1 guys (he wrestled at about 195 at 14%bodyfat), he decided to even the playing field...and now is up to 225 at 14% bf, so when he cuts down hes gonna be about 197 at 5% and way stronger...i appreciate any help anyone can offer..thanks

I have never heard of using thiomucase for injection pain, and I've pretty much heard of everything. It is OTC, DPS Nutrition used to carry it. Not sure if they still do. Do a google search if you want to try it. I don't why this would help from a physiologic standpoint. That guy is from Europe though, historically they have always been fans of thiomucase for various uses.

Many places to get sterile oil. Its cheap, $5 or so. Try http://www.kaotikchemistry.com. Good bros.

I never shoot in the ass anymore. Delt injects are much better. Quad injects are out if he has to run 10 miles, I don't do them either.

I say just try the delts if you have not done this before you buy anything. That should solve it.

Rex.
 
Try cutting each shot with sterile oil...

its in my experience that the pain from qv test E goes away after a few weeks... just cut it untill then... also heat the injection site after you inj for a bit... then if after a few days its giant and swolen and red still then ice it. Ice to stop swelling... heat to disperse the oil from the depot you create... later
 
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