test flu destroys my cycle

[Reno]

Started with 200mg primo per week and 100mg test phenyl prop e3d. My goals first was to try some new ug products, stay in shape and gradually increase my dosage. First week was fine, second week i was feeling awesome, and suddenly...got flu symptoms. Each time i pin the test after 10 hours or so i was with fever and flu symptoms. Cant eat and feeling shit. i kept it the third week as it is. I kept pinning. The same thing. Now i cant train and i'm a wreck. i cant eat properly 3 days now and i lost 4 pounds. Kept the hydration up with electrolytes plent vit c and zinc. its been 3 days since my last test pp shot. i think this propionate/phenylprop esters is not for me. so my main question. What do you suggest? The only thing i have on hand right now is a vial of sustanon (it contains prop/phenylprop)which i never tried and a vial of cypionate. Or i quit my cycle.

 

[ickyrica]

Started with 200mg primo per week and 100mg test phenyl prop e3d. My goals first was to try some new ug products, stay in shape and gradually increase my dosage. First week was fine, second week i was feeling awesome, and suddenly...got flu symptoms. Each time i pin the test after 10 hours or so i was with fever and flu symptoms. Cant eat and feeling shit. i kept it the third week as it is. I kept pinning. The same thing. Now i cant train and i'm a wreck. i cant eat properly 3 days now and i lost 4 pounds. Kept the hydration up with electrolytes plent vit c and zinc. its been 3 days since my last test pp shot. i think this propionate/phenylprop esters is not for me. so my main question. What do you suggest? The only thing i have on hand right now is a vial of sustanon (it contains prop/phenylprop)which i never tried and a vial of cypionate. Or i quit my cycle.

Maybe end the cycle and gear up for another blast with something easier, like the cyp. You're only a few weeks into the cycle so it's not like you've spent months going hard and it's all imploding on you.

While it's a little "harder" to brew, it's easily the best test for a standard cycle, imo. Far fewer issues than other tests and blends, all issues I can recall are due to manufacturers and not how well the user handles the gear.

I've grown to like a standard cyp dose with a little prop added in. I tolerate the combo well.

 

[ChrisBchicken]

I always got the flu symptoms when I took primo. Luckily, never had it when I was on just test

 

[Synthetic1]

I get test flu from test e or tpp when injecting high dosages...when I back down the dosage it's ok..

 

[Apopkared]

Had the same issue with test phenyl. I was at 100 ed and after a week had to give it up because I felt like I had the flu all the time . Stopped it and the symptoms went away. Sucks because I have bottle of this shit for a blast and can’t even use it. I’ve stuck with either test c, e , or a mixture of both. Don’t know why out of all the test this is the only one that made sick .

 

[Whoremoans]

It’s probably the primo making you feel that way. Primo acetate always gave me flu like symptoms, everytime I pinned it. Also a horrible knot from the pip. Primo ace is the worst. But I would assume even primo E could cause the same flu like symptoms. Probably not the test.

 

[TestiCult]

The flu-like symptoms come from a combination of the BA, BB, and the specific esters. I never get PIP or feel like shit when I use anything, like, say, Enanthate. But anything that takes extra solvents to dilute compounds, I get flu like symptoms and a knot in which ever muscle etc... sometimes your muscles dont like having foreign shit stabbed into them... and sometimes it feels good to have a little pain so you know the right stuff is inside you.

 

[skinnyman]

"test flu" comes from pyrogens
Fever - Wikipedia

Usually the body reacts to foreign objects. But it should subside after a couple of shots.

If it doesn't then your gear is either dirty or your immune system isn't as it should be.

 

[master.on]

Started with 200mg primo per week and 100mg test phenyl prop e3d. My goals first was to try some new ug products, stay in shape and gradually increase my dosage. First week was fine, second week i was feeling awesome, and suddenly...got flu symptoms. Each time i pin the test after 10 hours or so i was with fever and flu symptoms. Cant eat and feeling shit. i kept it the third week as it is. I kept pinning. The same thing. Now i cant train and i'm a wreck. i cant eat properly 3 days now and i lost 4 pounds. Kept the hydration up with electrolytes plent vit c and zinc. its been 3 days since my last test pp shot. i think this propionate/phenylprop esters is not for me. so my main question. What do you suggest? The only thing i have on hand right now is a vial of sustanon (it contains prop/phenylprop)which i never tried and a vial of cypionate. Or i quit my cycle.

Half the dosages
Do mild, high rep easy workouts
Get some rest, sleep and hydrate well.
Somehow test flu only happens in the first weeks of the cycle.

The flu-like symptoms come from a combination of the BA, BB, and the specific esters. I never get PIP or feel like shit when I use anything, like, say, Enanthate. But anything that takes extra solvents to dilute compounds, I get flu like symptoms and a knot in which ever muscle etc... sometimes your muscles dont like having foreign shit stabbed into them... and sometimes it feels good to have a little pain so you know the right stuff is inside you.

"test flu" comes from pyrogens
Fever - Wikipedia

Usually the body reacts to foreign objects. But it should subside after a couple of shots.

If it doesn't then your gear is either dirty or your immune system isn't as it should be.

I wonder why test flu mostly comes from test
and not as much from other steroids (in no-Testosterone cycles)
Flu is rare with DHT derivatives
And almost nonexistent with Deca.

I wonder if it has to do with excess Test while it hasn't had enough time to aromatize into estrogen.

 

[TestiCult]

I wonder why test flu mostly comes from test and not as much from other steroids (in no-Testosterone cycles)
Flu is rare with DHT derivatives
And almost nonexistent with Deca.

I wonder if it has to do with excess Test while it hasn't had enough time to aromatize into estrogen.

Has everything to do with high dose gear, and nothing to do with Testosterone compounds specifically. The first available high dose gear was from the golden age of Mexican steroids. Quality Vet, Denkall, Ttokkyo, Illium etc. Those companies all started making high dose Test that needed double the solvents (BA/BB) to dissolve it in the carrier oils. Then a couple high dose Boldenones and Nandrolones came into existence soon after, they left PIP and mild flu, but were not yet 400mg strength.. Denkall Test 400 specifically, left a nice charlie horse on the ass for days, and we all found that the chills from slightly elevated body temp were relative to, and subsided with the pain over time.. Test flu got its name in the early 2000's when these products first became available, and the usage of the term "test flu" was coined because there were no other high dose compounds besides test in 1999. A year later there were several ass hurting products, but the test-flu name just stuck. And everything I just told you was from many days spent at the main outlets for Mexican gear in Nogales and TJ, MX back then. They would specifically tell you to "tell your customers" that they will feel pain from the amount of solvents in the high dose gear, as well as flu like symptoms ei; fever, chills, swollen glands, sore throat...etc. The body's automatic response to inflammation caused by introducing foreign chemicals into muscle tissue. Now add the fact that a lot of people using the old (awesome) Mexican gear were trying steroids for the first time, and they're virgin asses (receptors) got more than they bargained for when they pinned some Test 400 for the first time.

Try any high dose gear of the utmost quality in 2019 and you will still suffer PIP and get the shakes for a few days after. But like anything else, the body will start to adjust and that flu feeling will become less and less. Very much like how opiate addict's bodies adjust and get used to drug dosages, and then build a tolerance. Our bodies adjust to everything

 

[chileandawg]

I get test flu from test e or tpp when injecting high dosages...when I back down the dosage it's ok..

What are "high dosages"?

Thanks

 

[chileandawg]

It’s probably the primo making you feel that way. Primo acetate always gave me flu like symptoms, everytime I pinned it. Also a horrible knot from the pip. Primo ace is the worst. But I would assume even primo E could cause the same flu like symptoms. Probably not the test.

Does oral primo the same trouble?

 

[Whoremoans]

Does oral primo the same trouble?

I’m not sure honestly. I think oral primo is a waste though.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Has everything to do with high dose gear, and nothing to do with Testosterone compounds specifically. The first available high dose gear was from the golden age of Mexican steroids. Quality Vet, Denkall, Ttokkyo, Illium etc. Those companies all started making high dose Test that needed double the solvents (BA/BB) to dissolve it in the carrier oils. Then a couple high dose Boldenones and Nandrolones came into existence soon after, they left PIP and mild flu, but were not yet 400mg strength.. Denkall Test 400 specifically, left a nice charlie horse on the ass for days, and we all found that the chills from slightly elevated body temp were relative to, and subsided with the pain over time.. Test flu got its name in the early 2000's when these products first became available, and the usage of the term "test flu" was coined because there were no other high dose compounds besides test in 1999. A year later there were several ass hurting products, but the test-flu name just stuck. And everything I just told you was from many days spent at the main outlets for Mexican gear in Nogales and TJ, MX back then. They would specifically tell you to "tell your customers" that they will feel pain from the amount of solvents in the high dose gear, as well as flu like symptoms ei; fever, chills, swollen glands, sore throat...etc. The body's automatic response to inflammation caused by introducing foreign chemicals into muscle tissue. Now add the fact that a lot of people using the old (awesome) Mexican gear were trying steroids for the first time, and they're virgin asses (receptors) got more than they bargained for when they pinned some Test 400 for the first time.

Try any high dose gear of the utmost quality in 2019 and you will still suffer PIP and get the shakes for a few days after. But like anything else, the body will start to adjust and that flu feeling will become less and less. Very much like how opiate addict's bodies adjust and get used to drug dosages, and then build a tolerance. Our bodies adjust to everything

Informative post.

One if the many reasons I usually run Prop throughout the week.

I mostly enjoy doses of short esters.

I ran Test E 400.. only fucking once.
My muscles are no where near virgin, but that stuff fucked me up... and it was from a reputable lab, good gear and got great bloodwork from it.
Pip was vicious
I dont know how some guys do it.

My next cycle may incorporate Test E, but I'll be pinning 2 or 3x times per week with 250mg/ml
No pip, no flu, no fuss, no muss.

 

[chileandawg]

I’m not sure honestly. I think oral primo is a waste though.

Even at high doses?

 

[TestiCult]

Injectables that are 400mg/ml + strength..

What are "high dosages"?

Thanks

 

[chileandawg]

Injectables that are 400mg/ml + strength..

What are you trying to say?

 

[Whoremoans]

What are you trying to say?

He was responding to your question about “what are high doses”..