Test is test = bullshit?

[ksm2]

Are you test p peeps pinning ED?

Yes, with slin pins. Can't complain.

 

[Infidel141]

Are you test p peeps pinning ED?

Yes everyday

 

[WOLFMAGE]

Yes, with slin pins. Can't complain.

Ok. Was asking cuz someone was telling me that pinning once a day wasn't enough and twice a day was necessary with test P. When I brought up half-life hours that I've found for test P including the plotter they maintained their position arguing that active life and half life are different and anecdotal feels are what's important and I'm like ... huh?

I'm not sure I think pinning 2x/day is necessary for test p and it sounds like y'all don't either

I can see TNE and multiple daily pins but that's on another controversial thread

 

[Infidel141]

Ok. Was asking cuz someone was telling me that pinning once a day wasn't enough and twice a day was necessary with test P. When I brought up half-life hours that I've found for test P including the plotter they maintained their position arguing that active life and half life are different and anecdotal feels are what's important and I'm like ... huh?

I'm not sure I think pinning 2x/day is necessary for test p and it sounds like y'all don't either

I can see TNE and multiple daily pins but that's on another controversial thread

Yea not necessary. Once a day should be fine

 

[sliderke]

I run Testosterone Decanoate... completely pip free even if blasting a whole 3mL syringe.
I inject E5D... which is awesome.
I've been a pin cushion before... it's a pain.
I don't compete though... so there's that.
Not something to run if competing, obviously because you can't drop to very low dosage or all together as some do before competition. Longer ester would keep you elevated and everything that comes with that.

Test is Test but your goals determine what ester you will run.

In your experience. Would test D also be better for hematocrit levels? Using test e now but think about switching to Decanoate in the 400mg/ml version.

 

[Slowww]

Ran test prop for a while, only difference on prop was pip, and not discernibly better than test cyp other than ester weight. But frankly I don’t care about ester weight if I can pin 1/5th less oil with a test E 500 and also get no pip…

 

[xrayphoton13]

Everyone is talking about prop and pip. What about test ace? Same pip? Same mental feel? Or just hard to find?

I haven't used prop but I do use a scrotal cream for trt (200mg/ml testosterone in atrevis base) that you apply twice a day and believe me you feel that kick in good shortly after application. It's like a jolt of alertness/wakefulness comes over you. I always apply before my morning workout now. Good stuff for sure

Even when I'm running a cycle with test e I'll add the cream in on my workout days for some extra strength and focus in the gym

 

[bigMoJo]

Everyone is talking about prop and pip. What about test ace? Same pip? Same mental feel? Or just hard to find?

I haven't used prop but I do use a scrotal cream for trt (200mg/ml testosterone in atrevis base) that you apply twice a day and believe me you feel that kick in good shortly after application. It's like a jolt of alertness/wakefulness comes over you. I always apply before my morning workout now. Good stuff for sure

Even when I'm running a cycle with test e I'll add the cream in on my workout days for some extra strength and focus in the gym

Sounds like orals and no esthers we all drop PWO, but in an easy to use cream. How do you gauge how many milligrams you're rubbing in?

 

[xrayphoton13]

Sounds like orals and no esthers we all drop PWO, but in an easy to use cream. How do you gauge how many milligrams you're rubbing in?

The container it comes in has a click dispenser. You turn the base until you hear a click and 1/4ml comes out. It's 200mg/ml so 50mg per click. My doc started me at 2 clicks am and 1 click pm but apparently my skin is super absorbent because that put me at 3200ng/dl total test and 900pg/ml free test. 37 shbg. So for trt I just do 1 click am and pm now. He never tested me at that dose but I assume it would be close to half that. But with cream it's in and out in about 12 hours and you test at peak in the middle, not trough like injections.

Yeah if only there was a way to buy that atrevis base cream it would be cool to experiment with different compounds. I think only compound pharmacies can get it though.

 

[forhealth87]

I wish I could try test cream too, there is a lot positive feedback on it. But no way to get it. Test Cream works like DHT cream you could say. The conversion to DHT is much higher and I'd argue this is the point where the benefits come into play.

DHT receives far too little attention and you simply don't get it at all. Only DHT derivatives, which do not have the same effect. TRT should be hormone replacement and not just looking at T but "professionals" know better.

 

[xrayphoton13]

I wish I could try test cream too, there is a lot positive feedback on it. But no way to get it. Test Cream works like DHT cream you could say. The conversion to DHT is much higher and I'd argue this is the point where the benefits come into play.

DHT receives far too little attention and you simply don't get it at all. Only DHT derivatives, which do not have the same effect. TRT should be hormone replacement and not just looking at T but "professionals" know better.

Yeah I think the high dht conversion of the cream definitely helps but I'm just glad it doesn't mess with my hair for whatever reason. When I ran a cycle of TMT with injectables I started shedding but the cream on it's own doesn't seem to have the same effect. I agree on the dht derivates as well. Primo makes me feel off and masteron makes me irritable and puts me on edge. Anavar seems to be fine though. No mental feeling from it