Test Only cycles for bodybuilding (Please share your opinions!)

[Mobius]

Whats up everyone,

I have been considering only using Test in my cycles from now on as it seems to give me the least amount of trouble when it comes to unwanted sides.

I have been utalizing AAS for 3 years now and I have made some pretty decent progress. Ive tried all the classic combos but every time I have included something other than just Test I seem to notice a lot more unwanted sides.

When I cycled 750mg test with 500mg Deca I started having prostate issues. I constantly felt like i had to piss and when i did the stream was weak as fuck and I would still feel like i had to pee after. Luckily that issue went away pretty quickly after discontinuing the use of deca. I made great progress in that cycle but the prostate sides have caused me to shy away from using Deca again.

When I cycled 750mg Test with 500mg EQ I got a lot of acne on my body. this issue is tolerable but definitely annoying and unattractive.

And obviously any oral like Dbol or anadrol are rough on the liver so I tend to try to avoid most orals for that reason.

So i guess long story short, does anyone feel it is possible to become a high level professional bodybuilder while only using Testosterone?

I have a feeling I already know how most people will answer this question but I figured it would spark some good conversation.

 

[musclemedicine]

Whats up everyone,

I have been considering only using Test in my cycles from now on as it seems to give me the least amount of trouble when it comes to unwanted sides.

I have been utalizing AAS for 3 years now and I have made some pretty decent progress. Ive tried all the classic combos but every time I have included something other than just Test I seem to notice a lot more unwanted sides.

When I cycled 750mg test with 500mg Deca I started having prostate issues. I constantly felt like i had to piss and when i did the stream was weak as fuck and I would still feel like i had to pee after. Luckily that issue went away pretty quickly after discontinuing the use of deca. I made great progress in that cycle but the prostate sides have caused me to shy away from using Deca again.

When I cycled 750mg Test with 500mg EQ I got a lot of acne on my body. this issue is tolerable but definitely annoying and unattractive.

And obviously any oral like Dbol or anadrol are rough on the liver so I tend to try to avoid most orals for that reason.

So i guess long story short, does anyone feel it is possible to become a high level professional bodybuilder while only using Testosterone?

I have a feeling I already know how most people will answer this question but I figured it would spark some good conversation.

If "high level professional bodybuilder" means IFBB pro than I'd say highly unlikely. There are a lot of people that have utilized every compound available and still can't get to that level.

 

[cochino]

I'm probably going to stick with test only from now on. Deca fucks with my head, and I'm not interested in any other injectables (maybe with the exception of Masteron).
I do have some tbol and anavar, so I may throw those in on my next cycle.
I do well with test only, but at 57, I don't aspire to be a pro.
For me, diet is the key to a good cycle. I won't run a cycle unless I know I can get plenty of rest and I'm able to train hard.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

You cannot become a pro on just test unless you’ve got unreal genetics in all departments. That’s just a reality.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

High level professional, no. Not in this day and age. Maybe 50 or 60 years ago, but even then, you'd have needed some pretty superior genetics.

 

[Dr JIM]

1) Ive tried all the classic combos but every time I have included something other than just Test I seem to notice a lot more unwanted sides.

2) does anyone feel it is possible to become a high level professional bodybuilder while only using Testosterone?
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1) While the combined DOSAGE is a major contributor, this additive effect is well established throughout medical therapeutics - MORE DRUGS = MORE SIDE EFFECTS w few exceptions.

And the frequency of adverse effects that occur as a result of poor quality UGL PEDs is bound to be much higher.


2) NO!!! Not even with excellent genetics

Jim

 

[CJames]

Test will get you to 250 but you won't get the same look that tren gives you. You wouldn't be able to get to 6%bf without t3 and clen. You can't get back pumps without dbol, drol and tren.

 

[penche]

Whats up everyone,

I have been considering only using Test in my cycles from now on as it seems to give me the least amount of trouble when it comes to unwanted sides.

I have been utalizing AAS for 3 years now and I have made some pretty decent progress. Ive tried all the classic combos but every time I have included something other than just Test I seem to notice a lot more unwanted sides.

When I cycled 750mg test with 500mg Deca I started having prostate issues. I constantly felt like i had to piss and when i did the stream was weak as fuck and I would still feel like i had to pee after. Luckily that issue went away pretty quickly after discontinuing the use of deca. I made great progress in that cycle but the prostate sides have caused me to shy away from using Deca again.

When I cycled 750mg Test with 500mg EQ I got a lot of acne on my body. this issue is tolerable but definitely annoying and unattractive.

And obviously any oral like Dbol or anadrol are rough on the liver so I tend to try to avoid most orals for that reason.

So i guess long story short, does anyone feel it is possible to become a high level professional bodybuilder while only using Testosterone?

I have a feeling I already know how most people will answer this question but I figured it would spark some good conversation.

No Anadrol was not toxic to my liver one bit. I have plenty of labs while I was on to prove it.

 

[Dr JIM]

No Anadrol was not toxic to my liver one bit. I have plenty of labs while I was on to prove it.

Bc of the need for hepatic degradation essentially all orals have the potential to
increase liver enzymes (toxicity). And the difference is the DOSE and DURATION of use.

JIM

 

[tengtren]

Test + GH + insulin + top tier genes probably

 

[penche]

Bc of the need for hepatic degradation essentially all orals have the potential to
increase liver enzymes (toxicity). And the difference is the DOSE and DURATION of use.

JIM

Absolutely agreed. I was on 4 weeks of Anadrol on these labs then took 2 week break and continued with Halo for 3 weeks. I took these bloods while I was on halo 30mg per day. Prior i have labs on Anadrol with the very similar results.

This was a 14 week of 2.6grams of oils not including the oral steroids.
1.2g Test Cyp/week.
1g Eq/week.
400mg npp/week.
Plus at the time 5.5iu HGH spilt dose. I made some dramatic changes in 14 weeks with diet and training.

 

[penche]

My absolute Eos is high because I have bad allergies. Battled that throughout my life. My testosterone is in the 8000 range because I have very large testicles.

 

[darkdays]

If "high level professional bodybuilder" means IFBB pro than I'd say highly unlikely. There are a lot of people that have utilized every compound available and still can't get to that level.

there are also those few exceptions who have amazing genetics and simply grow just from stepping foot in the gym who compete on relatively weak cycles compared to some of the weekend warriors on here

 

[musclemedicine]

there are also those few exceptions who have amazing genetics and simply grow just from stepping foot in the gym who compete on relatively weak cycles compared to some of the weekend warriors on here

"Highly unlikely" was to account for those dudes that hit the genetic gold mine. Unfortunately I'm not one of them lol.

 

[darkdays]

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Absolutely agreed. I was on 4 weeks of Anadrol on these labs then took 2 week break and continued with Halo for 3 weeks. I took these bloods while I was on halo 30mg per day. Prior i have labs on Anadrol with the very similar results.

This was a 14 week of 2.6grams of oils not including the oral steroids.
1.2g Test Cyp/week.
1g Eq/week.
400mg npp/week.
Plus at the time 5.5iu HGH spilt dose. I made some dramatic changes in 14 weeks with diet and training.

jeeebus

 

[darkdays]

"Highly unlikely" was to account for those dudes that hit the genetic gold mine. Unfortunately I'm not one of them lol.

lol i feel that, neither am i! although i've noticed my body does respond very well to 2-500mg of tes,t 2-400mg eq
15-30mgs of dbol (although ive ran 50),tbol and eq together, var at 30-40mg's did me wonders. so i guess imm saying low dosed other compounds seem to work pretty solid for me w out the need to push them any further

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Test will get you to 250 but you won't get the same look that tren gives you. You wouldn't be able to get to 6%bf without t3 and clen. You can't get back pumps without dbol, drol and tren.

Lol yes you can absolutely get to sub 6% without t3 and clen. Ask me how I know.

 

[musclemedicine]

lol i feel that, neither am i! although i've noticed my body does respond very well to 2-500mg of tes,t 2-400mg eq
15-30mgs of dbol (although ive ran 50),tbol and eq together, var at 30-40mg's did me wonders. so i guess imm saying low dosed other compounds seem to work pretty solid for me w out the need to push them any further

I have been doing long high test cycles and honestly haven't been too happy. For the next year or two I plan to try short 8week cycles with orals kickstarts like sdrol, anadrol and maybe tbol. The only oral I have tried was dbol, I started too high and got the worst gyno flare of my life lol.

 

[taco33150]

Test will get you to 250 but you won't get the same look that tren gives you. You wouldn't be able to get to 6%bf without t3 and clen. You can't get back pumps without dbol, drol and tren.

I know a 42 year old that is.. diet cardio is strict

 

[puckhog]

@penche what does your AI use look like for this? Just curious man.