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Whats up everyone, so im currently on trt 240mg a week test c.
I do daily injections and thinking about switching to test prop since im already doing the injections every day.

Also looking for less water retention.

Any reason i shouldn't switch to test prop? Was going to start at 30mg a day ?
 
I've used Prop a long time for TRT. 25mg/day. The original intent of using Prop was to try and more closely mimic the rhythm of natural Test production. Not really sure I actually did that, but I feel good. TT is kept in the 800's. Never had PIP with it, so I'm lucky.
 
jpmining85 said:
Whats up everyone, so im currently on trt 240mg a week test c.
I do daily injections and thinking about switching to test prop since im already doing the injections every day.

Also looking for less water retention.

Any reason i shouldn't switch to test prop? Was going to start at 30mg a day ?
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Is water retention really that big a deal at those doses? Really? This is probably classic over thinking. (Much like injecting Cyp daily)
 
long esters are sheeeiiit
Definitely switch to prop
Will give you a decent daily drop as opposed to unnatural consistently steady levels you get with c/e
Don’t forget that C will stay elevated for 2/3 weeks so you need to add the test p slowly
Something like 10mg week 1 20mg week2 and 30mg starting week 3
GL
 
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Benf15harp said:
long esters are sheeeiiit
Definitely switch to prop
Will give you a decent daily drop as opposed to unnatural consistently steady levels you get with c/e
Don’t forget that C will stay elevated for 2/3 weeks so you need to add the test p slowly
Something like 10mg week 1 20mg week2 and 30mg starting week 3
GL
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Thanks man!
 
I’d be willing to bet a long ester daily will have less water retention due to more stable levels. Also cheaper and less oil volume.

I think the myth of long esters cause long bloating comes from the context at which they were used in.

For example, typically guys use prop in contest prep so they can pull it 2 weeks from show and tank their e2, giving a very dry look. Also, during a cut generally people with be better with diet and be leaner so they will hold less water.

On the other hand, long esters are typically during growth phases, where the user might loosen up on diet and put on a bit more bodyfat, causing bloating. They will also likely run their e2 higher, again causing more bloating.
There’s also a chance they are pining 1-2 times only per week, causing large hormonal fluctuations which will cause water retention.

If I were you I would just continue to use long esters daily
 
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The "natural fluctuation" thing is better in theory, an effect Sustanon also offers to a degree, but I've heard from TRT docs that in practice, the vast majority of men report feeling better with Test-C or E. Twice weekly, for even less fluctuation, seems to work even better for a lot of guys as well, beyond side effect reduction. It's one of those "paradoxical" things where real world doesn't line up with what you'd reasonably expect to be better (mimicking natural fluctuation).

But of course. there are always exceptions, not harm in trying a few things to see what you prefer. Just give each at least 6 weeks to make that call,
 
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Lol of course most are going to feel best on c/e bc you’re redlining test level 24/7. Eventually it will lead to burnout
Test P is better but it’s still not great due to esters leading to less fluctuation over time
Base is the answer.
 
The body adapts to constant elevated levels. Mimicking natural test secretion will have you use Test Ace and microdosing other hormones too like pregnolone and dhea
 
Benf15harp said:
Lol of course most are going to feel best on c/e bc you’re redlining test level 24/7. Eventually it will lead to burnout
Test P is better but it’s still not great due to esters leading to less fluctuation over time
Base is the answer.
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Not sure many long term users of TRT, within physiological levels, are burning out. Not something I've seen reported "I need a break from TRT with these long esters for some T level downtime"
 
FunkOdyssey said:
Daily prop feels alot better than daily long esters for me and for many other guys. You'll want to try it yourself to see if that holds true for you, as speculation from the peanut gallery is worse than useless when it comes to predicting your personal experience.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7LOclJQFuQ
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Sure trying different things is a great idea, in theory. As a matter of practicality few can try everything . The evidence of what the vast majority settle on and decades of experience is not "worse than useless", it's an indicator that odds are greater certain things are more likely than others to work better.

How do you know test pellets implanted in your ass wouldn't work better for you? If you haven't tried it, you might be in the .00001% of men where that's the case and missing out.
 
Ghoul said:
Twice weekly, for even less fluctuation, seems to work even better for a lot of guys as well, beyond side effect reduction. It's one of those "paradoxical" things where real world doesn't line up with what you'd reasonably expect to be better (mimicking natural fluctuation).
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I have found 3 times a week for long esters to be my personal sweet spot. Test P for some reason gives me pip and a flu like symptoms. Now, this could of been the Test P I used.
 
Ghoul said:
Sure trying different things is a great idea, in theory. As a matter of practicality few can try everything . The evidence of what the vast majority settle on and decades of experience is not "worse than useless", it's an indicator that odds are greater certain things are more likely than others to work better.

How do you know test pellets implanted in your ass wouldn't work better for you? If you haven't tried it, you might be in the .00001% of men where that's the case and missing out.
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Not a great example, considering the major and obvious downsides associated with pellets, including cost and being locked for months with gradually waning levels that you have zero control over.

A sizeable fraction of men that have tried prop for TRT prefer it to other esters. If the vast majority are not using it, there are many potential reasons for that which have nothing to do with how well it works. I'm sure you can imagine many.

If you're going to be doing this for the rest of your life, and you don't mind daily pinning, it is an absolute no-brainer to experiment with prop, which no one in their right mind would discourage.
 
FunkOdyssey said:
Not a great example, considering the major and obvious downsides associated with pellets, including cost and being locked for months with gradually waning levels that you have zero control over.

A sizeable fraction of men that have tried prop for TRT prefer it to other esters. If the vast majority are not using it, there are many potential reasons for that which have nothing to do with how well it works. I'm sure you can imagine many.

If you're going to be doing this for the rest of your life, and you don't mind daily pinning, it is an absolute no-brainer to experiment with prop, which no one in their right mind would discourage.
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Yeah thats how i feel, ive heard a lot of positive things from people who have switched to teat prop.

I feel better on daily small injections i use 27g needle so i dont really feel like a pincushion like people say. I think ill do it and report back!
 
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