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Yep, I shook the crap out of it until nothing was settled, drew my dose out and shook the syringe well before injecting.

I brewed this at 50mg/ml as an initial trial. I'd go with 100mg/ml if I do it again.
 
An interesting side note is that the smaller ester chains, weigh less. This is important because it brings another advantage of shorter chain ester drugs to the table. If the ester weighs less, the amount of testosterone per milliliter or cubic centimeter (cc, they are interchangeable) is more. For example, testosterone suspension is 100% testosterone as we have said previously. It has no ester. The short chain ester propionate, is roughly 74% testosterone. This means that if you take a typical 1cc shot of prop at 100mg/cc, this is actually 74mg of testosterone and 26 milligrams of ester weight. A larger ester such as enanthate, is roughly 55% testosterone. Twenty-Eight (45%) percent of the gross weight of a given amount of testosterone enanthate is the actual enanthate ester, not the active testosterone that you are searching for. So, a typical 200mg/cc shot of enanthate only contains 110mg of active testosterone. If you have ever used a shorter acting injectable anabolic, and gotten better results than using heavier dosages of longer acting drugs, this is the reason. You may have been getting more "active" drug into your system with what appeared to be less "overall" or gross mg dosage of drug.

A great illustration of the above point is evident when comparing the "active" amount of testosterone yield in equal "mg" dosages of these two testosterone ester. Think of the 110mg/200mg injection of enanthate. The 74mg/100mg injection of propionate would yield more active testosterone if you were to take ( "200mg") of the drug. This would yield 148mg of testosterone from the propionate! Do you see? So, 200mg of propionate is more "active" test than 200mg of enanthate.

Just a thought.............AnalogMan
 
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ANALOG said:
An interesting side note is that the smaller ester chains, weigh less. This is important because it brings another advantage of shorter chain ester drugs to the table. If the ester weighs less, the amount of testosterone per milliliter or cubic centimeter (cc, they are interchangeable) is more. For example, testosterone suspension is 100% testosterone as we have said previously. It has no ester. The short chain ester propionate, is roughly 74% testosterone. This means that if you take a typical 1cc shot of prop at 100mg/cc, this is actually 74mg of testosterone and 26 milligrams of ester weight. A larger ester such as enanthate, is roughly 55% testosterone. Twenty-Eight (45%) percent of the gross weight of a given amount of testosterone enanthate is the actual enanthate ester, not the active testosterone that you are searching for. So, a typical 200mg/cc shot of enanthate only contains 110mg of active testosterone. If you have ever used a shorter acting injectable anabolic, and gotten better results than using heavier dosages of longer acting drugs, this is the reason. You may have been getting more "active" drug into your system with what appeared to be less "overall" or gross mg dosage of drug.

A great illustration of the above point is evident when comparing the "active" amount of testosterone yield in equal "mg" dosages of these two testosterone ester. Think of the 110mg/200mg injection of enanthate. The 74mg/100mg injection of propionate would yield more active testosterone if you were to take ( "200mg") of the drug. This would yield 148mg of testosterone from the propionate! Do you see? So, 200mg of propionate is more "active" test than 200mg of enanthate.

Just a thought.............AnalogMan
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Hey Analog! Do you have the rest of that article? Sounds like a good read.

mands
 
Learn something everyday bro, even your "greatness" .. Image that ?? .............AnalogMan
 
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ironwill1951 said:
i have never had a problem with estrogen such as bitch tits but if i run suspension do i have to add something, to be safe
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Hey iron why don't you get some labs done now and see where you are? If you are adding the suspension on top of what you are doing you might look into an AI.

mands
 
mands said:
Hey iron why don't you get some labs done now and see where you are? If you are adding the suspension on top of what you are doing you might look into an AI.

mands
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FWIW I had to up my aromasin from 12.5 mg EOD to 25. I'm running 50mg TNE pre-workout 3 times a week.
 
On day 1, I've noticed extra anti estrogen is necessary. Since I'm only using once a week, I believe I will only increase on day of.

Interestingly, still no PIP. I'm a bit surprised actually.
 
Yea, I agree with brother mands , (what?) Labs brother.. I put I code {15%} off some were. If you need it or what test /timing,{pre-mid-post} and help reading them... Holler I help you out...........Analogman
 
I run 10mg ED aromasin running 75mg Test Prop ED and TNE 50mg 3x a week. I usually run prop at 100mg ED but I decided to back off on prop dosage. Ran Tren ace at 75mg ED. Anything around 700mg of prop or more I start getting estrogen sides and need an AI. Plus if I don't run one I look like a puff ball anyway. I can say the 10mg of Aromasin a day seemed to work, last cycle I had the misfortune of running bunk adex and that's when I noticed estrogen sides and estradiol level was 78 I believe.
 
All this TNE talk makes me really want to try it. I notice that typically test base raws are a little cheaper. Probably because the skill to make a useful product with it are higher and keep the demand lower.
 
psilikon said:
All this TNE talk makes me really want to try it. I notice that typically test base raws are a little cheaper. Probably because the skill to make a useful product with it are higher and keep the demand lower.
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no, it probably has more to do with the fact that all the other tests need to be made from test base, so it is an added step for the chemists
 
I love TNE. If I was real hardcore for gains and didn't mind pinning everyday, then I would do 250 Test E weekly, and 50mg TNE every day before every workout.This would give you amazing instant gainz.
 
warlordishere said:
Bumping this thread to find out if anybody found the halflife of tne in oil
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1/2 life of TNE is 24hrs. Thats why it makes no sense when people say you have to inject 3x a day. Still should have a base level to avoid any dips. Thats why 250 TestE one a week will help that.
 
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