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5'11, 230lbs, 37yrs old, years of cycle experience.
From January to June 14 of this year, I ran test cyp 200mg and tren E 200mg, completely recomping my body, from 260lb dad-bod to 230lbs prob 13% bf, over a six-month period. Everyone advised me, including John Meadows (RIP) not to run Tren more than 8-12 weeks, but I figured if I’m running such a low dose, I should be able to run double what people typically do. I was right.
I took about a month off, then jumped on Test Cyp 480, and Primo 660; this cycle which I’m currently on that I brewed, has about a month left. I got my bloodwork last week, and everything was basically normal, aside from elevated AST at 51, which goes to show how safe Primo really is.
So, even being on tren E for half a year, my body is fine. Granted it was a low dose, but I’m clearly one of those lucky people.
Being that I’m on TRT for life, I just blast and cruise; I don’t have to worry about PCT, and I can handle the harshest injectable out there.
I have 10grams (10,000mg) of Test Cyp, Deca and Tren E raws remaining; each will last me 25 weeks at 400mg, or 16 weeks at 600mg. Unfortunately, my cyp raws gave me shitty labs, but I’m hoping these other raws are good to go; if not, I’d have to double everything.
My plan was to brew Deca for my next cycle for the “bulk” phase, and save the Tren E for next year during my “cut.” I put both in quotations because really, I do the whole Doucette “maingaining” thing, where I only slightly manipulate calories rather than gorge like a fat ass; basically, I’m either slightly over or below maintenance during these phases. Thing is, I haven’t taken regular Nandrolone in over 10 years, but I did run NPP about 3 years ago, and I didn’t notice any sides at all. I read from posts from all different forums about Deca bloating, but forum vets saying that’s up to diet and controlling estrogen, and controlling prolactin to avoid deca dick.
The reason why I’m hesitant to run Deca, is because of the whole “wet gains” thing, and after I just recomped my body to being lean, I’m not trying to get watery. The Primo is so wonderful, I’ve gained ZERO water retention, even from doubling my test. Even if my Cyp raws suck, the Primo is definitely working.
I, and I’m sure all of us, are fans of “dry gains,” but what the posts I’m reading seem to imply, is that “wet gains” is misnomer, since LBM does include water retention within muscle, and bloating will come from being a fat ass on your diet.
On Tren E I don’t get any libido issues; in fact, I become a sex freak. Then again, haven’t done 400mg of Tren E in years.
So my question is, since I’m one of the lucky ones who doesn’t get destroyed by Tren, should I just forget the Deca and go with the Tren E at 400mg, or should I stick to my original plan, being that I haven’t really done any “hard” cycles.
I kind of want to run Deca to see how I’d look on it now with over a decade of new experience with bodybuilding, and since I have it, but then again, I rather not waste time if Tren E would be more suitable for me since I handle it and seem to response to it very well.
I know some people run BOTH, which I could easily do by my mixing the brew together, perhaps make a blend of 200/200 Deca/Tren?
I know everyone reacts differently, which is why I explained how I react to things, so I’m basically asking:
“If you were me, what would you do?”
Thanks gents.
From January to June 14 of this year, I ran test cyp 200mg and tren E 200mg, completely recomping my body, from 260lb dad-bod to 230lbs prob 13% bf, over a six-month period. Everyone advised me, including John Meadows (RIP) not to run Tren more than 8-12 weeks, but I figured if I’m running such a low dose, I should be able to run double what people typically do. I was right.
I took about a month off, then jumped on Test Cyp 480, and Primo 660; this cycle which I’m currently on that I brewed, has about a month left. I got my bloodwork last week, and everything was basically normal, aside from elevated AST at 51, which goes to show how safe Primo really is.
So, even being on tren E for half a year, my body is fine. Granted it was a low dose, but I’m clearly one of those lucky people.
Being that I’m on TRT for life, I just blast and cruise; I don’t have to worry about PCT, and I can handle the harshest injectable out there.
I have 10grams (10,000mg) of Test Cyp, Deca and Tren E raws remaining; each will last me 25 weeks at 400mg, or 16 weeks at 600mg. Unfortunately, my cyp raws gave me shitty labs, but I’m hoping these other raws are good to go; if not, I’d have to double everything.
My plan was to brew Deca for my next cycle for the “bulk” phase, and save the Tren E for next year during my “cut.” I put both in quotations because really, I do the whole Doucette “maingaining” thing, where I only slightly manipulate calories rather than gorge like a fat ass; basically, I’m either slightly over or below maintenance during these phases. Thing is, I haven’t taken regular Nandrolone in over 10 years, but I did run NPP about 3 years ago, and I didn’t notice any sides at all. I read from posts from all different forums about Deca bloating, but forum vets saying that’s up to diet and controlling estrogen, and controlling prolactin to avoid deca dick.
The reason why I’m hesitant to run Deca, is because of the whole “wet gains” thing, and after I just recomped my body to being lean, I’m not trying to get watery. The Primo is so wonderful, I’ve gained ZERO water retention, even from doubling my test. Even if my Cyp raws suck, the Primo is definitely working.
I, and I’m sure all of us, are fans of “dry gains,” but what the posts I’m reading seem to imply, is that “wet gains” is misnomer, since LBM does include water retention within muscle, and bloating will come from being a fat ass on your diet.
On Tren E I don’t get any libido issues; in fact, I become a sex freak. Then again, haven’t done 400mg of Tren E in years.
So my question is, since I’m one of the lucky ones who doesn’t get destroyed by Tren, should I just forget the Deca and go with the Tren E at 400mg, or should I stick to my original plan, being that I haven’t really done any “hard” cycles.
I kind of want to run Deca to see how I’d look on it now with over a decade of new experience with bodybuilding, and since I have it, but then again, I rather not waste time if Tren E would be more suitable for me since I handle it and seem to response to it very well.
I know some people run BOTH, which I could easily do by my mixing the brew together, perhaps make a blend of 200/200 Deca/Tren?
I know everyone reacts differently, which is why I explained how I react to things, so I’m basically asking:
“If you were me, what would you do?”
Thanks gents.
