As I understand the question, it is can you be "natty" massive while being on low test, and my idea is that you dont have to have much testosterone to be naturally massive. Some would argue that is genetics, but in my own example, and seeing other men around me, I would say that there is some combination of hormones when ratios just match and you suddenly are very virile, muscular, attratctive, horny and proactive.
It may sound funny here, but 25mg clomiphene made changed me dramatically, and my max test levels were 23nmo/l at that time. So, no, I dont think high testosterone is the key to being a "muscular natural guy". But somehow that state where stuff just falls into place is very hard to recreate artificially (maybe there is a very narrow window of E2, T, DHT concentrations so without an internal "hormonostat" that is no easy feat?), so using higher dosages of testosterone does the trick via some alternative pathway.
For me, using trt solo test doesn't do any trick, in fact I loose mass, be my levels 20 nmol/l or 60 nmol/l. The next best thing is masteron: test 1:1 mass ratio, where I feel sharp and muscles a bit bigger but far cry from muscular guy. I am plannig to try primabolan instead of mast, and DHT on that line of therapy. I plan on incorporating nandrolone to see what it looks like too.
Just a remark, when I started eq and started dropping masterone I felt really good for a short time and it was definitely going in the direction of virile, muscular, attractive, horny and proactive. That was a transient period so the effect vanished, but it left me with question is there some possibilty in combining mast and eq to match test and to accomplish the natty muscular physique that way?
