Testosterone and Size

Arnold’s favorite stack
15mg Dbol base
200mg Primo E

He didn’t need grams of gear to win the Olympia.
But this is not the only cycle he ran. If you run, 6000 mg of gear a gear for 10 years, then one cycle of 300 mg cycle, its clearly the other cycles that got him the win, not the one 300 mg cycle, as its years of work, not just one cycle.
 
It seems that the people who run the most gear are the biggest (not healthiest) if they know what there doing. Then once big they second guess there health amd dial it down a bit.
Anybody here big but always runs low testosterone?

I am genuinely curious.


Let's qualify "big." Big enough to win open class in NPC amateur competition.


I am asking because it seems every time I see somebody posting about running low testosterone exclusively, that person is small. Any exceptions to that here on
 
Low test is fine for cutting with tren and shit like that, but my best mass cycles have all included at least a moderate (4-600) dose of test. I'm running just 600 test right now and loving it.

I feel like the guys who shy away from test are mostly the same guys who have a panic attack and drop their calories the second that their skinny-man abs start to dissappear during a bulk.
 
Low test is fine for cutting with tren and shit like that, but my best mass cycles have all included at least a moderate (4-600) dose of test. I'm running just 600 test right now and loving it.

I feel like the guys who shy away from test are mostly the same guys who have a panic attack and drop their calories the second that their skinny-man abs start to dissappear during a bulk.
So what advice You got for ppl like me, when my HDL go single if 500+ test, and no, "go off and play chess" answer is not funny anymore :-D
 
Is rosuv elevating HDL? How much for You? I was sure statins are mostly used for lowering LDL, with mild (1%-5% isnt even mild for me...) impact on HDL.

What else can I do... i triend moslty all xD bergamote, niacin, and many other herbal/supp stuff. I wish I spend this money on drugs and alko.
 
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Good question.....isn’t this TRT/low test on blast a relatively new theory made popular by a now deceased person?
There are plenty of people that go low test(trt dosing) with other compounds. William Llewelyn has recommended that route multiple times and even on steroidal dot com, just about every “advanced” cycle is run at a trt dose of test.
 
To the OP there are plenty of big people running low doses of test and are fairly large. The point being here though is that if you were to enter any NPC competition would you really want to run low test? Most likely not, especially if you plan on making that type of hobby your source of income.

Don’t know how true it is but Jared feather who just got his pro card is said to generally run low doses of gear. Not really trying to be naive about it either but the guy is somewhat open regarding his “supplements” on his various social media accounts. For reference he is about 6’ foot and currently 240lbs. He is around 220lbs contest.
 
Don’t know how true it is but Jared feather who just got his pro card is said to generally run low doses of gear.
I don't know the guy, but i know that when pros talk about low dose it's definitely not the same as an amateur low dose.

For pros low dose test could be anything under 1g of test lol

Nowadays when pros say they cruise / run low dose i instantly assume they just mean anything that doesn't involve HGH and insulin in the cycle...
 
So what advice You got for ppl like me, when my HDL go single if 500+ test, and no, "go off and play chess" answer is not funny anymore :-D
You get single digit HDL off of just test? Yikes. Test doesn't impact my lipids at all so I don't really know what to tell you.
 
Is rosuv elevating HDL? How much for You? I was sure statins are mostly used for lowering LDL, with mild (1%-5% isnt even mild for me...) impact on HDL.

What else can I do... i triend moslty all xD bergamote, niacin, and many other herbal/supp stuff. I wish I spend this money on drugs and alko.

Niacin, bergamot, fish oil, cardio, got bodyfat down to 12%, got off orals and DHTs, HDL increased to 40 from 15, still too low, while simultaneously my LDL went from 170 to 250. Which is worse? Statin is supposed to modulate your levels, I’ve been avoiding taking that shit for over a decade. I no longer have a choice.
 
Low test is fine for cutting with tren and shit like that, but my best mass cycles have all included at least a moderate (4-600) dose of test. I'm running just 600 test right now and loving it.

I feel like the guys who shy away from test are mostly the same guys who have a panic attack and drop their calories the second that their skinny-man abs start to dissappear during a bulk.

Embrace the fat
Embrace the power
Embrace the gut.
Cut that shit later.
Get fucking big now.
 
I have been low test guy long before when i believe dickheads like broderick Chavez and so on,but no matter how much i increase anabolics results are not the same..once i start high test cycles it was night and day difference ,fuller, stronger and gain so much more size
Why do you think that Chavez is a dick head? Genuinely curious
 
Why do you think that Chavez is a dick head? Genuinely curious
Trying to look smart with all those bs mg per kg dosing ,also he never had not even one guy on olympia stage all lies or else he would say ofc like every good coach... he is like alex kikel scammer,kikel guy takes all those weird shots with phone and still looks like poop, and needs shit ton of dnp to diet cause have all those cheat days as excuse to eat like fat pig and ofc goes compete on amateur Arnold looking fat,i had more muscle and was leaner natty...and don't forget why skipp hill hates him,post fake client transformation...
Anyway easy to spot those guys who use smart words to take people money
 
Trying to look smart with all those bs mg per kg dosing ,also he never had not even one guy on olympia stage all lies or else he would say ofc like every good coach... he is like alex kikel scammer,kikel guy takes all those weird shots with phone and still looks like poop, and needs shit ton of dnp to diet cause have all those cheat days as excuse to eat like fat pig and ofc goes compete on amateur Arnold looking fat,i had more muscle and was leaner natty...and don't forget why skipp hill hates him,post fake client transformation...
Anyway easy to spot those guys who use smart words to take people money

Is Kikel the one that has that square gorilla face/head?
 
Something I picked up on a while ago is it seems the biggest guys run high test but they don't use an ai. Apparently estrogen helps with growth and promotes it through different pathways.

I typically let mine run high, as long as there are no negative sides. Cardio and neuro protective as well as helpful with growth. Blasted 840 cyp, took an aromasin if my nipple got spicy, very infrequently. 300mg mast seemed to have modulated levels enough to not even need an AI. The caveat to this is, I started this particular blast with my E2 at <5 after I chemically castrated myself with letro.
 
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