Testosterone and Size

Bro it’s the other way around. It doesn’t matter if it’s ugl ir pharma as long as both products have the same amount of active hormone in it. That’s harder to achieve with UGL considering they underdose a lot but not fucking impossible if you brew yourself or have a good source.

I brew my own and it's good, but hg is king imho.
 
No... you literally are taking Pharma company marketing at face value and parroting it.

There is no fucking difference at the same dosing levels.

How much experience do you have with human grade gear? Be honest please.
 
Basic chemistry dictates that accurately dosed UGL and Pharma are the exact same.

HPLC results dont lie.
They are the same at a molecular level.

The myth of Pharma>UGL needs to just die.

If people PREFER one to another, that's fine... but it's a preference and has zero to do with efficacy.
Someone may want to have contamination security

But it's the same hormone
 
Basic chemistry dictates that accurately dosed UGL and Pharma are the exact same.

HPLC results dont lie.
They are the same at a molecular level.

The myth of Pharma>UGL needs to just die.

If people PREFER one to another, that's fine... but it's a preference and has zero to do with efficacy.
Someone may want to have contamination security

But it's the same hormone
The only difference is mostly on heavy metals, some ugl are real shit for this, pharma of course has higher standard of safety.

But the efficacy if both have the same dosage it's the same, and I have tried many pharma AAS. Testosterone E and P, Deca, winstrol, clen etc.

Difference was None.
 
My personal experience is that you need around a gram or more. Im 5'10" and about 240lb. All my biggest pushes for weight and strength is when I was at this level. Although I have never tried running without test. I have ran 300-500 with compounds on top of that and just didnt get the same results
 
My personal experience is that you need around a gram or more. Im 5'10" and about 240lb. All my biggest pushes for weight and strength is when I was at this level. Although I have never tried running without test. I have ran 300-500 with compounds on top of that and just didnt get the same results
Have you found the upper limit for yourself where increasing the dosage of testosterone added sides but no additional growth?

I haven't found that yet for myself, but I haven't tried.
 
Have you found the upper limit for yourself where increasing the dosage of testosterone added sides but no additional growth?

I haven't found that yet for myself, but I haven't tried.
I dont think ive ever gone above 1000mg. I know when I ran 900mg with 900 nandrolone my e2 was 110! Other than that I dont aromatize very much but its almost a problem. If memory serves my e2 was 26 when i ran 1000 test and 50mg of winny a day. Crit and bp dont ever get too bad. I should also add I dont do a lot of hypertrophy work but I started at around 170lb so
 
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240 at 5'10" ain't small, especially if you started at 170! Anyway, I was just curious. Not many of us here on this site have spent any time above 1000mg a week (me included- that's a lot of gear).
 
I dont think ive ever gone above 1000mg. I know when I ran 900mg with 900 nandrolone my e2 was 110! Other than that I dont aromatize very much but its almost a problem. If memory serves my e2 was 26 when i ran 1000 test and 50mg of winny a day. Crit and bp dont ever get too bad. I should also add I dont do a lot of hypertrophy work but I started at around 170lb so
Tbh you are in the lowest end of Aromatizing zone...
Depends how much you scored of TT.

But it's damn good to have such a low E2 on such an high dose of Test and no AI.
 
He ran primo all year round and stacked alot of drugs before competition. Or let me guess you think he stayed off only until shows you are gullible

I meant to reply to the idiot who thinks he ran 20mg of bol and a couple hundred primo. That was his cruise at best.

He said that's all he ran in interviews but people who knew him attested to him running a few grams of primo plus bol for shows.

And yes, from what I've heard from people he lifted with he did come off and didn't even go to the gym for a couple months after the season ended. That's actually how most guys did it back then.

The myth that they were only on a few hundred mg of gear a week however is completely unfounded.
 
Tbh you are in the lowest end of Aromatizing zone...
Depends how much you scored of TT.

But it's damn good to have such a low E2 on such an high dose of Test and no AI.
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E2 is anabolic too and it helps with sex drive. I feel really good with nandrolone. I was around 5000ng. Its about ratio so with test alone my ratio is off but when I add some that aromatizes well i feel awesome
Tbh you are in the lowest end of Aromatizing zone...
Depends how much you scored of TT.

But it's damn good to have such a low E2 on such an high dose of Test and no AI.

I dont believe in AIs until im pushin e2 higher than 110. Aromatizing on the low is not benficial for me because I dont feel good in a lot of ways. It took me some time and anguish figuring out what works for me. I supposed now that I know its great, it just sucked getting there. Diet too of course
 
Tbh you are in the lowest end of Aromatizing zone...
Depends how much you scored of TT.

But it's damn good to have such a low E2 on such an high dose of Test and no AI.
I have definetly not seen it as a benifit until I figured out what was going on. Now I realized that when I blast i need to add a compound that aromatizes well for me which so far is nandrolone. What weird is if I go 500-600mg is perfect for me when I go lower or higher I dont feel good.
 
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