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mikelaurey84

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Hi to all,

I started to take testosterone enanthate 250mg per week at the beginning of July (about two months) and I'm doing very well.
I would like to go on with it but I also want to make my wife pregnant again during next months.

Since I would like to go on with the testo, I was planning to add Gonasi (HCG) and HMG in order to avoid my testicles to shrink and also to try to keep my fertility.

Does it make sense?

Can I keep my fertility for the next three or four months if I use HCG and HMG along with the testo?
What do you think about it?

Is there anyone with the same experience?

Thank you and sorry if the question is stupid!
 
mikelaurey84 said:
I started to take testosterone enanthate 250mg per week at the beginning of July (about two months) and I'm doing very well.
I would like to go on with it but I also want to make my wife pregnant again during next months.
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Come off cycle. PCT, recover. Stop fucking around.

You want to conceive? Then do it with some fucking focus.

This approach will do nothing but fail and cause friction with your wife.
 
grey said:
Come off cycle. PCT, recover. Stop fucking around.

You want to conceive? Then do it with some fucking focus.

This approach will do nothing but fail and cause friction with your wife.
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Thank you for your opinion.
Surely, this is the most sensible thing to do, but it is very difficult to come off testosterone.

However, I'm not doing any cycle, I'm just on a TRT with a dosage which is a little more high than usual.
 
Three months ago the sperm test was excellent. Then I started to take testo.
I'm going to get the sperm test again in a week and check how the situation is.

I don't think the sperm will suddenly get bad, it should be a slow process so I can monitor it.. I guess..
 
I got wrong, I did a sperm test and I have now ZERO sperms!
Three months ago, before the testo, I had 40 milions, and now, ZERO.

What should I do right now? What should I take to recover from this situation?
 
I don't know if it's because of my poor english or it's because there are some users in this forum that like to be rude and sarcastic.

I was just asking some questions (may be stupid) to get help, nothing more and nothing else.

I already read several times that article before to open this thread.
I'm totally aware about the fertility problem.

I'm just asking advices from expert steroid users about what to do next.
The article doesn't cover doses and products to use to enable again spermatogenesis.

Should I take HMG and HCG together? if yes, what should be the correct dosage?
Should I stop the testosterone slowly or immediately? What is the best in this case?

from the article:
The use of hCG has been found to maintain some spermatogenesis, albeit at a lower level than normal. The addition of FSH (either directly or as a part of hMG) is required to fully preserve spermatogenesis. The dosage required to optimally maintain spermatogenesis on hCG alone during an anabolic steroid cycle is not completely clear.
 
The next few lines:
Given the important role of intratesticular testosterone in maintaining spermatogenesis, one might argue that a dosage that sustains this also optimally sustains spermatogenesis. As such, one might arrive at a dosage around 250 IU every other day. However, (controlled) clinical trials directly evaluating the impact on spermatogenesis with suppression of gonadotropins have all used markedly higher dosages. Evidence from retrospective trials suggests that 500 to 2500 IU twice weekly might be sufficient. Ideally, one tests their sperm to see what works for them.
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If you want to most certainty about fertility, then yes, you take them together. You can be fully fertile during testosterone use when using hCG in combination with a source of FSH.

HMG dosages mentioned in the article are either 3x 150 IU hMG weekly or 75 IU hMG daily to give you an idea.
 
Thank you a lot for your answer and support!

The only issue here is that the article states that the fertility can be preserved if you start taking hmg and hcg together with the testosterone.

The problem is that now, after three months, I'm not fertile anymore since I have zero sperms. So, should I start taking hcg and hmg and repeat the sperm test in two months or should I stop the testosterone, recover from it and start it again by adding HCG and hmg only when I get a good sperm test?
 
It can be restored again too by using hCG and hMG while using testosterone. After three months this should be relatively easy to restore. I'd advice to do a sperm test 3-4 months after you've started the hCG and hMG.
 
Thank you!l for the useful information.
I will see my doctor in two weeks and I will ask him to prescribe hMG. It is very expensive and hard to buy without a medical prescription.

Do you think lower the testosterone dosage from 250mg/week to 125mg/week plus hCG and hMG could be better?

I tried to lower the dosage for few weeks but I found out that I feel better with 250mg/week.
With this dosage, my testosterone ranges from 15ng/ml the day after the injection till 10ng/ml at the end of the week when I have to inject again.
 
mikelaurey84 said:
What should I do right now? What should I take to recover from this situation?
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This is EXACTLY what we told you.


See my previous post. You need to go see a doc.

Follow Peter's advice sure... but do so with a doctor if you are serious about regaining fertility. It is NOT something you should just be fiddling about with on your own.
 
I asked an appointment with my doc in August and he scheduled it for October 10th. Unfortunately, it is always a long wait since he has a lot of patients.

I will discuss with him about hCG and hMG, but this protocol is not very common (in italy) so I was trying to find as much information as possible.

Since it is not math, I think it's better to also collect opinions from guys who already experienced it.
 
mikelaurey84 said:
I will discuss with him about hCG and hMG, but this protocol is not very common (in italy) so I was trying to find as much information as possible.

Since it is not math, I think it's better to also collect opinions from guys who already experienced it.
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I don't disagree... just be well prepared for the strong possibility that you will need to come off exogenous test in order to have a shot at conception.
 
There's some really good fertility protocols online.. do some research..I wanna say I remember seeing a few other compounds added to some as well.. bostin Floyd fertility protocol worked for him. He abuse gear pretty well.. if a protocol fails.. then come pff..and pct and pray you get your sermon back up
 
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