Testosterone - Month on / Month off - Working 28/28 rotation

[roughneck74]

Hello guys...

I have a question that I'm not sure if there is even a good answer to...just looking for advice from advanced users on what they would do if they were in my circumstance...even if it could never be considered "ideal" in any way.

First post here or anywhere so forgive me if I don't know much about protocol.

I work a rotation of 28 days on and 28 days off. The 28 days at work I can not inject...(overseas, hostile environments and plenty of searches).

Here is my question:
If you wanted to cycle testosterone, and could only inject for a month at a time, what would be the best way to bridge between the 1st and 3rd month (The 2nd month being the one where I am at work ??)

I have done a lot of lurking over the years and understand about shutting down natural test, using PCT etc.

As far as I know, the longest ester's 1/2 life available is a week maybe with Test E or C...?

SO... even if I load up on Test E or C right before flying out, say a gram a day for the last 2 days at home, it will all have burned through my system by the end of week 2 at work and I will spend my last 2 weeks at work with even lower than natural test-levels....?

I am wondering what would be the best way to bridge that gap before getting home again and hitting Test propionate or suspension right away trying to get levels up again as soon as possible and keep them there for month 3 until I have to fly out again (12 weeks after starting)...

I can take any kind of orals along with me and get away with it, but the syringes are a no go.


A bit of history if it matters...
I'm 42 yrs old and 220 lbs.
Always had an athletic build and have worked out semi-consistently over the years.
Relative to you guys, I am very much a novice...though I have cycled testosterone successfully , a 1/2 dozen times over the years...usually pharma Sustanon up to 750mg/wk for max 12 weeks, usually with nolvadex and finasteride through the whole cycle, (just as a precaution) and always PCT of HCG/Clomid and Nolvadex.
(I used to live in the Caribbean and work in South America so could always get Sustanon and ancillary drugs over the counter, while at home and at work)


Again, I know it is not ideal but it is the situation I'm in.

Really appreciate any of the ideas you guys would consider if you were in the same boat as I am.

Thanks,
RN74

 

[DedLift]

Andriol is an oral form of testosterone enanthate but I have no idea where you'd find it. It was originally developed by organon. I'll let you know if I think of anything else

 

[roughneck74]

Thanks for that bro....I actually forgot about that stuff...have seen generic Andriol in the Dominican Republic maybe 7 or 8 years ago, local generic brand, I remember Googling it at the time and wasn't interested as the Sutanon redi-jects were right beside it on the shelf..... I am going to try to chase that up and see if it's around anywhere...I still trip down to the DomRep once in a while....Thanks for the idea...more than happy to hear any others !!

 

[roughneck74]

Andriol is an oral form of testosterone enanthate but I have no idea where you'd find it. It was originally developed by organon. I'll let you know if I think of anything else

Thanks for that bro....I actually forgot about that stuff...have seen generic Andriol in the Dominican Republic maybe 7 or 8 years ago, local generic brand, I remember Googling it at the time and wasn't interested as the Sutanon redi-jects were right beside it on the shelf..... I am going to try to chase that up and see if it's around anywhere...I still trip down to the DomRep once in a while....Thanks for the idea...more than happy to hear any others !!

Actually, never mind what I said about seeing it 9in the DR...this is what I actually saw down there...Anabolex by Ethical which is just 2mg of D-bol apparently...no wonder I wasn't interested hah !

 

[DedLift]

Actually, never mind what I said about seeing it 9in the DR...this is what I actually saw down there...Anabolex by Ethical which is just 2mg of D-bol apparently...no wonder I wasn't interested hah !

Yeah, that would be pretty pointless. I was wrong about the ester. It's test undecan. Not enanthate but again, not sure who sells it. It's possible that there are members here who have some better ideas. I'm sure they'll see your question and help if they can

 

[DedLift]

European Pharmaceuticals | MESO-Rx Forum
Check out his inventory on one of the first lines....andriol

 

[roughneck74]

Thank a lot DedLift !!!
I searched all night last night til my eyes were square looking for an online that carried it.
One in Canada was "recently sold out" but offered me androgel which I'm sure would be a waste.
I'll get on to European Pharm when I get off shift again. That is going to be the answer. A pail full of andriol to bridge the gap. Really appreciate it !

One other question I posted in the HGH forum...
I've got six brand name GH kits at home that have been there since the summer....didn't get started on them yet but I'm likely going to get rolling this time home early Feb.
Ever hear of any one running (for whatever reason ) GHG month on monht off?
I am going to do it anyways, may 5 iu every day I am home for the next year. COuld be an epic waste of cash but I'm not getting any younger and don't want to wait until retiremwnt to give it a go.
At the risk of being an askhole, waste of time or no ?

 

[D-Ballin]

If I had to do this, I would probably frontload a hefty dose of test undecanoate, maybe EQ along with it. Should keep you cruising right along. Might be feeling rough by the third week, could always start the andriol then. I would not plan to rely on andriol though.

 

[roughneck74]

If I had to do this, I would probably frontload a hefty dose of test undecanoate, maybe EQ along with it. Should keep you cruising right along. Might be feeling rough by the third week, could always start the andriol then. I would not plan to rely on andriol though.

Thanks Dballin, that's likely how I will go with the test if I can find Undecanoate...if not I guess Enanthate or Cypionate is the best alternative....?
I'm thinking a gram a day for the last 2 or 3 days I'm at home for loading up before I fly...that might be crazy I don't know....of course will have lots of Arimidex and Nolva on hand
I will likely run 750mg/week of propionate for the 4 weeks at home

I've never used EQ but from what I just read it has as long a half life as available so I would be up to giving that a try too...... If you were to load up on EQ, what kind of dosage would you use?,,,When used normally is it comparable to Test doasge.. ie up to 1000mg/week ? DO you think a gram a day of EQ for the last 2-3 days before flying is crazy ?

I won't count on the Andriol, but it seems to be something that I should definately try for that 3rd and 4th week away just be used to try to bridge the gap from about 2 weeks after loading up and flying out to 4 weeks later flying home and getting on the propionate really quick.

Thanks again for the reply

 

[D-Ballin]

I'll have to look things up a bit. I'll get back to you when I can on dosing.

There's sources out there. Pharmacist has Human grade Nebido, but it ain't cheap.

 

[roughneck74]

I'll have to look things up a bit. I'll get back to you when I can on dosing.

There's sources out there. Pharmacist has Human grade Nebido, but it ain't cheap.

Much appreciated Thanks !

 

[caveman72]

Hello guys...

I have a question that I'm not sure if there is even a good answer to...just looking for advice from advanced users on what they would do if they were in my circumstance...even if it could never be considered "ideal" in any way.

First post here or anywhere so forgive me if I don't know much about protocol.

I work a rotation of 28 days on and 28 days off. The 28 days at work I can not inject...(overseas, hostile environments and plenty of searches).

Here is my question:
If you wanted to cycle testosterone, and could only inject for a month at a time, what would be the best way to bridge between the 1st and 3rd month (The 2nd month being the one where I am at work ??)

I have done a lot of lurking over the years and understand about shutting down natural test, using PCT etc.

As far as I know, the longest ester's 1/2 life available is a week maybe with Test E or C...?

SO... even if I load up on Test E or C right before flying out, say a gram a day for the last 2 days at home, it will all have burned through my system by the end of week 2 at work and I will spend my last 2 weeks at work with even lower than natural test-levels....?

I am wondering what would be the best way to bridge that gap before getting home again and hitting Test propionate or suspension right away trying to get levels up again as soon as possible and keep them there for month 3 until I have to fly out again (12 weeks after starting)...

I can take any kind of orals along with me and get away with it, but the syringes are a no go.


A bit of history if it matters...
I'm 42 yrs old and 220 lbs.
Always had an athletic build and have worked out semi-consistently over the years.
Relative to you guys, I am very much a novice...though I have cycled testosterone successfully , a 1/2 dozen times over the years...usually pharma Sustanon up to 750mg/wk for max 12 weeks, usually with nolvadex and finasteride through the whole cycle, (just as a precaution) and always PCT of HCG/Clomid and Nolvadex.
(I used to live in the Caribbean and work in South America so could always get Sustanon and ancillary drugs over the counter, while at home and at work)


Again, I know it is not ideal but it is the situation I'm in.

Really appreciate any of the ideas you guys would consider if you were in the same boat as I am.

Thanks,
RN74

testosterone undecanate would stay active for the 28 days exspecially if you did a decent injection before you left and if need to more for mental you can take with you like one post says the andrial its undecanate made oral but trust me it even takes medium esters a month to fully clear. undecanate half life is little over two weeks so in 18 days you would still have half the injection do 800 mg.you would have 400 in month later 200 mg left.

 

[caveman72]

Yeah, that would be pretty pointless. I was wrong about the ester. It's test undecan. Not enanthate but again, not sure who sells it. It's possible that there are members here who have some better ideas. I'm sure they'll see your question and help if they can

the,pharmacist has it he is on here. European pharmacy avatar name pharmacist just look him up on here his andrial isn't to pricy. now test undecanate I brew that its hard to find other wise but its easy to find raws for it.goodluck

 

[caveman72]

If I had to do this, I would probably frontload a hefty dose of test undecanoate, maybe EQ along with it. Should keep you cruising right along. Might be feeling rough by the third week, could always start the andriol then. I would not plan to rely on andriol though.

I agree. Dbalin

 

[roughneck74]

testosterone undecanate would stay active for the 28 days exspecially if you did a decent injection before you left and if need to more for mental you can take with you like one post says the andrial its undecanate made oral but trust me it even takes medium esters a month to fully clear. undecanate half life is little over two weeks so in 18 days you would still have half the injection do 800 mg.you would have 400 in month later 200 mg left.

Ok Thanks for that caveman...You mention 800mg, which is just over what I would be taking weekly at home...I've never used Test Undecanoate... mg for mg is it stronger than the other Esters? Reason I ask is that when I'm home for the 4 weeks, I will likely be on 750mg/week of Test prop, o, SO basically 3 grams per month when I can use the needles...would that be a crazy thought to get 2 or 3 grams of Undecanoate into me all in the last few days before flying out for my month at work?

 

[DedLift]

Glad these guys can help you out. I'm not the resident aas guru that most of these guys are but the frontloading of long esters is a good idea. Like you said maybe keep the andriol just in case. It's the beginnings of a plan at least

 

[DedLift]

Also, I wouldn't start hgh off at 5iu per day. Start at a lower dose like 2 to be sure you're not going to have any sides with it and work your way up to 5 from there. There is definitively more info on here about hgh and possible sides

 

[caveman72]

I don't think you would need 2000 but try doing it couple weeks before you leave and maybe just a gram its only 60% of 100% so it would be like 600 mg I think you will be fine take AI.

 

[roughneck74]

Also, I wouldn't start hgh off at 5iu per day. Start at a lower dose like 2 to be sure you're not going to have any sides with it and work your way up to 5 from there. There is definitively more info on here about hgh and possible sides

I will take your advice on that Dedlift...I'llstart at 2 and see if I can get up to 5 depending on the sides...I have been reading about it more the last couple days and figure that I might use the GH more moderately and combine with a decent plan to get me through 3 or 4 months of test and will likely be all I'm after anyways. I hope so. Will see an I will pop back in to update once I get rolling. Not sure if I will be able to secure the Test Undecanoate or Andriol in time for my next hitch so likely will have to wait about 2 more months before I carry out the plan that is starting to come together. I have the GH already so will get on it about a week from now when I get home. Carry that month on and month off all year if its going ok. Probably add the test in starting in April.

Appreciate your replies !

 

[roughneck74]

I don't think you would need 2000 but try doing it couple weeks before you leave and maybe just a gram its only 60% of 100% so it would be like 600 mg I think you will be fine take AI.

Thanks Caveman, will try with a gram right when I leave and also load up on the equipoise and then take the Andriol to work to help out 3rd and 4th week after loading...I plan to take arimidex and finasteride with the test....you say take "AI" ....is that Arimidex?

Thanks for the reply!