Thane Labs

I responded to the test result.

Don't worry, I have no desire to ever conduct business here. It's impossible for a legitimate source to do so - MESO loves scammers. That's why it's all you ever get. I will however teach you all how to properly perform a LABMAX test before I leave. Smh

Please no one order from me - not from this site. I don't want your business. Feel free to watch when bloodwork starts coming back on other areas of the web though - I already know what it'll be considering I'm using the gear myself and have pulled bloods.... that's what makes this whole thing laughable.
So are you still going to be crediting those for testing that have already purchased?
 
This is copy/paste from labs section I went off topic but the point remains. What exactly is it you want? I complied with the scoc and that didn't work. If there is a way to at least attempt to fix this I would like to pursue it, even if it fails. Better to try and fail than never try at all. If both of the specs I had on this test E are complete bogus I want to KNOW.

Seriously - I don't know what you want. Read through this post. I can ASSURE you we both want the same thing - tested gear of high potency. I'm getting mixed messages.

"That is my LC/MS result and it is the same exact raw that's in your vials. How over-estimated is the purity? Probably 5-10% judging from my bloods. I stated numerous times in my thread that they are just estimations and to be taken with a grain of salt. The mentality here seems to be "no data is better than slightly inaccurate data". Well, fuck that. I want to know all I can about what's being injected into my body. You guys can keep your "pin and find out" method... I mean it's worked so well so far hasn't it? Contraceptives, horribly under-dosed crap.... yep working perfectly fine no need for a change at all. Why test? Things are going great.

I find it very curious how few people here seem to see the value after all the 30-50% gear we have all (yes me too) have wasted our time pinning over the years. That's what I sought to correct - that specific possibility.... and that's what, in effect, I was able to do. Bunk or significantly underdosed gear will never be sent out to anyone - not by me.

I get the tests done that are available even though they aren't 100% accurate. You can say what you want my conscience is clear - those are the results I was given and on top of that I was forthcoming about the inaccuracy from the beginning.

I find it fascinating that people here don't seem to question sources without specs that just ship out whatever comes in the mail, but when one actually does specs it's all a big conspiracy theory. We ALL need better analytical testing methods. I WISH I had access to HPLC-MS to test everything I have or ever will have but I don't. Do you?

I prefer to have the testing available performed as opposed to nothing at all or only LABMAX. Remember that contaminated test prop I chose not to sell? The raw by itself gave a super clean positive absolutely textbook. If I hadn't done the LC/MS that would've gone out. If you prefer the "pin and find out" game then by all means - plenty of others offer this. I offer a MUCH better alternative. Security. Safety. Perfect system? No. Better than no testing at all? You have pinned bunk before I'm sure so you tell me.

It's referred to as "not seeing the forest for the trees". One of the worst pitfalls in human psychology. Let's argue about specific details that don't actually matter instead of the real-life practical effect and impact - the big picture. Reality. Doesn't make any sense at all.

That MStrong sample must have been damn near absolute to give a positive that strong. What do you want me to address? That was a fantastic sample and as you mentioned what happened? "He started selling shit". Why? NO TESTING in place to prevent bad raws from reaching the customer. That's what I'm PREVENTING FROM EVER HAPPENING by testing. Bunk or contaminated gear will never be sent out. The fact that many people fail to see the value in this security is once again simply not my issue.

Again - forest for the trees.

The impurities are what skews the strong positive and yes when 4+ drops are added it begins to kill the reaction at least with THIS particular batch of Test... I know this for a fact since I've performed it myself. Diminishing returns is what you receive. Is this always the case though in every sample of Test E? NO!

Impurities vary from batch to batch. They effect the LM test itself in different ways. What's listed on the LABMAX site is a guideline, an example, not a law written in stone. It requires some critical thinking to adapt and become proficient with these tests. I am not wrong and neither are you. Every scenario will be different - my approach is more adaptable in this regard since it allows for the reaction to take place over time instead of just filling up the vials immediately. Best of both worlds - it just takes a few more minutes to play out.

Did you check the vial B after 10-15 minutes of sitting still with UV? I'm thinking not. It takes that long for this sample to give you the full glowstick like effect and yes... it does give it if you wait. Not as strong as the MStrong sample certainly, but still very strong.

I thought people here of all places would be objective enough to see the forest - to think critically and be intellectual honest about the imperfections of this game we're all in. Doesn't seem to be happening."
 
I complied with the scoc and that didn't work.

No, you did not.
A tarped off room with a plastic table, two beakers, and 5 vials of your bunk gear does not mean you met the SCOC. You were asked by me and a few other members on multiple occasions to post images of your brewing set-up and to prove that you were working in a sterile environment using sterile brewing procedures. You have done none of this. The only thing you have done is given long winded responses of how you brew. This does not meet the SCOC.

Red Flags:
You had dozens of already filled vials on your very first post.
You disappeared for two days before posting your supposed Mass Spec's.
You disappeared again before your garage brewing tarp room showed up.
You haven't posted any pictures that we have asked for.
WKM's are pretty certain you're Titan.
Now there are two poor LabMax vids of your bunk gear.
Your vid didn't even have your product in view.

So, tell me again how you've met the SCOC?
 
I kept asking for pictures of your sterile environment. After the pictures were posted I wasn't satisfied and I just gave up. I had made up my mind whether I'd ever buy from you at that point and moved on.

Who knows maybe you'll stick around and become a solid source on here but you dragged feet until I and others lost interest.
 
@thane
Thanks for yet another dissertation... I hope you feel better after all of that but you totally MISSED the point.
Eventually your lengthy posts start to act as a SMOKE SCREEN for what the main focus of the very basic information I laid out for you in the few posts before this. Not to mention I backed my post with credible photos and videos to support my statements and not some fortune cookie proverbs regarding trees and forests. I will once again get down to brass tacks in efforts to not waste anyone's time including yours and mine.

-YOU posted a LC/MS showing a 96% purity on your raw (test-e)
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-I purchased, with good ol US dollars, your gear and hoped it was as advertised.

-I made 2 labmax videos of your gear (right from opening the pack on one of them), EXPECTING to see at least a nice solid blue/green glow.

-I DIDN'T

-YOU saw the results of the video I posted and didn't like it so YOU said it was done wrong.

You did the test incorrectly. You put WAY too much oil in the ampules (which I said not to do in the instructions) and then for a reason I'm not quite sure of rolled all the contents of vial B thin across the whole surface area of the vial sideways...

I thought after the incorrectly done LABMAX I'd be finished.

I took a video on how to properly do the LABMAX


-YOU wanted to discredit the TWO videos I posted. (basically saying that I forgot to stick my finger up my ass and spin in a counter-clockwise circle while pumping some shitty techno beat in efforts to get a "glow")

@Johnson513

I find that placing the droplets on the sides of the vial like you see in the video here and gently swirling the ampule is the most effective way to watch the reaction play out. Patience grasshopper. If I drop right down to the bottom straight away it doesn't give me as much glow on the initial reaction or across as much surface area.

The reason why I wanted one drop is like you will see in the video, it gives you a good instant positive.

If you use multiple drops it seems to "drown out" the fluorescence on the initial reaction which I'm guessing is from impurities.

To get the whole reaction obviously vial B has to sit for a little while (10-15 mins at least I don't count).

That would mean monitoring the vials w/ pics after

One drop to confirm ID and close it up.

Then add another to side of vial gently swirl.

Wait 10 mins or so and check with UV while waiting.

Add another to side of vial and repeat with some wait time.

Usually the 4th drop starts killing the glow.

I've never violently shook an amp before -

-I then posted videos from THE LABMAX WEBSITE showing how all of your aforementioned theories were/are incorrect. (As you can see, they drop more drops for a better glow directly into the solution in the tube)

http://www.labmax.ca/pages/testosterone-enanthate.html

-I also showed Boilermech's video and how he placed 4+ droplets which didn't drown out any glow.

https://thinksteroids.com/community...-[labmax]---[2014-08]-[Boilermech].134358067/

-YOU didn't like to see this so YOU decided on writing yet ANOTHER novel on how MESO doesn't seem to VALUE inaccurate LC/MS tests.

-WE DONT!!

-I am showing you 2 pictures, from the labmax website, and am asking you which one does yours look more like?

Under dosed:
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Nicely dosed:
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Yours:
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THIS IS FROM YOUR OWN VIDEO!
smfh

-YOU now are saying that according to your bloods the LC/MS might be off by 5-10%
That is my LC/MS result and it is the same exact raw that's in your vials. How over-estimated is the purity? Probably 5-10% judging from my bloods.

-It's ATLEAST OFF BY 10%
as show in your OWN VIDEO!

-YOU closed the night by doing a copy/paste and headed with a question:

If both of the specs I had on this test E are complete bogus I want to know.

-I will now answer the question for you... THEY ARE BOGUS!

In conclusion, I am well aware that labmax does not test for purity. Judging from the videos I have seen it brighter glow does mean a stronger concentration. Simply put, your product does not have as bright a glow as others we have seen. Thane I told you before that I'm not a big fan of contempt prior to investigation. I have personally investigated and invested and I'm not impressed.
 
I’m going to state this for anyone new to this thread or drama. There is not a single person on this entire forum that has actually USED my products. Not one!! Not a single product review.

The way I see it there have been FOUR major points of contention brought up here. THREE out of the four I have already proved you all wrong on… the fourth is incoming. First I was told I couldn’t possibly have an analytical connect for MS. This was disproved as I posted LC/MS results on page 7. Did it matter? No. The witch-hunt continues. People just said the tests were fake or ignored them.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/thane-labs.134360506/page-7

I was told to post pictures of the clean environment in which I brew. This was posted on page 13. Did it matter? No. The witch-hunt continues.

Pics of Lab? What Lab? Am I supposed to work at Sigma Aldrich? I'm producing clean sterile gear and even built my own clean room with a HEPA filter in it ffs that's what you have pictures of. How that isn't complying with scoc is beyond me. Equipment? You mean graduated cyclinders beakers hot plate stir bar vial crimper filters vials butyl stoppers etc.... you really want a picture of that too? Makes no sense at all that stuff costs combined maybe 1k. Cheap & easy to obtain.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/thane-labs.134360506/page-13

Hell I even proved on page 6 that every source at least in recent times coming here has pulled one over on all of you by posting pictures of autoclaves and other equipment located at their local college when you told me I should have an autoclave! Did it matter? No! The witch-hunt continues.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/thane-labs.134360506/page-6

So now we’re looking at a LABMAX test where the tester did not allow the contents of the vials to settle and then check it after 10-15 mins because if he did…. then he would have gotten a strong positive…. It does NOT accurately quantitate. LABMAX was not designed for this purpose. The only way to tell if your testosterone is under-dosed or not is to get BLOODWORK - that’s a fact. I don’t blame the tester it’s not his fault because he didn't know, I know it’s not purposeful slander, and he is free to claim his $100 credit any time he wants. He knows this already.

The attached pictures were taken 4.5-5 hours after I did the video you have likely all seen by now. Obviously after sitting that long the glow had largely faded but it still demonstrates my point. I was only thinking about the video checking on the glow was an afterthought hence the long time lapse. Yeah I’m sure you’re already putting on the tin-foil hats to say I’m lying about this time lapse but I could give a crap less at this point that’s the truth anyone who does a LABMAX in the future will see this for themselves that the glow will be 30-50% stronger than what you see here. You just have to allow the contents to settle if you are going to violently shake the vial, which I disagree with anyways. The impurity present is making the glow only show up where the liquid hasn’t settled. I don’t know why, it just is this way with this batch. Look at the pictures you will see what I’m talking about. I purposefully put in a shot of where the bulk of the liquid was and there is zero glow in that area.

Really none of this even matters though. I’ve gotten BLOODWORK done that proves that this absolutely is not "underdosed" test E that’s what is so frustrating… I know for an absolute fact I’m in the right here. MS tests can be botched but bloodwork not so much. If you don't get between 3400-4000ng/dL peak TT off of pinning 500mg/wk bi-weekly then your body isn't like mine that's all I'll say. I'm not sure how high it would go pinning 1x weekly because I don't do that personally.

I am going to prove myself correct for the 4th time but this one is going to take more money and time unfortunately. You don’t just shake the vial violently and expect it to light up in 60 seconds like a glowstick that’s not how shit works. You have to check the vial again after 10-15 mins when the contents have settled. Will it matter when I do prove this to be a potent batch of test? When bloodwork is up from my gear? No. Of course not. The witch-hunt will ALWAYS continue here. That’s the issue and that’s why this place will not be a part of my solution to this “problem” even though it’s factually incorrect and thus not actually a problem at all. The test E isn’t under dosed I know this for a fact since ya know…. The blood pumping through my veins proves it. I'm repeating myself for emphasis.

Obviously, my own blood work isn’t proof to anyone but me and therein lies the issue. I’m not arrogant; if I hadn’t had blood pulled recently while running this very same batch of test I might be questioning the quality too based on LABMAX alone. But the fact is I HAVE have bloods pulled and therefore know with 100% certainty what I’m saying is true. It’s not underdosed it’s a potent batch of test E. There is a solution to this that will be put forward to prove what I say to be true but it won’t be done here at MESO. The proof is for other boards.

There is a reason other boards have a specific rule against “witchhunting”. The pseudo-intellectualism that is allowed to take place here fuels the pack mentality, the process of circle jerking over negative comments blind accusations and condemning anything remotely positive that follows thus empowers this places stupidity. I defer now to the renowned Western philosopher known simply as @clamz who spoke eloquently (sort of) on this very subject. At any rate – he was right.

I feel like every time I click on a new thread I am gearing up to once again watch a pack of retards try to fuck a porcupine.

You new guys wonder why all labs seem like scammers it's because the "vets" here chase them all away because it's the only place they will ever feel like men! How did they become "meso vets" by default of course, They are like the retards who can sit thru a whole episode of blues clues, they may learn a number or letter here and there so to the retards who can't sit thru that whole episode they seem like genuine genius individuals!!! You wonder if they chase all the labs away where do they get their premium aas products? I'll tell you kids, eroids, evo, mg, pm, iron den, sf, asf and a host of others. Of course they stay low key in these places so they can come back here and condemn them, also because a real board whether a real ug board, sponsor board or review board would not put up with their shit. Not because of restrictions but because they would be called out on their lack of knowledge and general mental deficiency's. This completely retarded scoc created by 4 or 5 guys and amended by 4 or 5 more is the heart of the reason you will only see scammers here. Be sure to never post positive feedback on a real lab because that makes you a shill, never recomend only condemn. If you do have negativity though you will get 50 likes on your idiot meso posts so why not just make a bunch up? Take that strategy and you will be a well polished meso supervet in no time. Why would any legit source ever put up with that, why take these security risks, why let some imbeciles grill you? They won't so you will end up with titan, dunamis, and the brand new jewel of meso thanes labs.


He couldn’t be any more jolly on the spot in this quote except for the inclusion of me but I'm sure his opinion has changed by now since this was posted right when I opened.… I wish I had known just how bad of a cesspool this place was before I opened and had instead done so somewhere else instead. Epic mistake.

You see there’s a problem not just here at MESO but in society in general. Of course it’s MUCH worse here at MESO than in normal society, but still pretty bad in both places. People generally are followers not thinkers…. No one wants to do any work you just want things handed to you including how to think which the mainstream media – much like the idiots here at MESO – conveniently does for you. Why think for yourself? That would require work. Maybe even money. Fact is I know what the hell I’m talking about with LABMAX because I’ve used literally 60 pairs of A+B amps, the 60th being the one I used in the video actually. Not to mention yet again I’m running the very same batch of test being called “underdosed”… and because of bloodwork know for a fact it is NOT underdosed. I’m not talking out my ass and I’m going to make that very clear in my future actions.

This place is an outstanding example of this particular brand of ignorance..… it spins up bullshit just as bad as the mainstream media. If it bleeds, it leads. No fucks given about objective truth whatsoever. Post a positive review? HAH. Well now you’re a shill buddy have fun getting flamed. Post some random negative bullshit that isn’t even true? Oh shit pile on the “likes” time to jerk each other off! Truth is this place couldn’t give a fuck less about objective truth just like the media, all you want to do is whip up conspiracy theories and post negative comments even though 97% of them are completely false and being posted by retards who don’t even actually know anything of the topics on which they speak half of the time. These people would be getting called out for their lack of knowledge on any other respectable board.

People like this should be out in the streets shouting and hollering with a cardboard sign and selling pencils from a cup – not be given “well known member” badges which effectively allow them to spew baseless accusations towards anyone and everyone. Of course I’m speaking of the minority who are trolls, but one bad apple spoils the bunch.

Why do you think I know so much about the game….. which sources have access to testing and which don’t? Think about it long and hard. I may just have a friend or two. Not business partners, but friends who are in business towards the top. Privately anyways. How do I know this system prevents bunk or under dosed gear from ever reaching the customer? Because it’s exactly what they do. Literally. We use the same analyst and no it’s not the mass specs you saw I’ve stated this previously. Now I see why they never bother to talk about it out loud at least not in detail. I’m certainly not the first to ever do this - the other guys who do are just private already at least the ones I am aware of. You want proof? Kick rocks. Facts don’t matter to this place anyways. Feel free to strap your tin foil hats on tight and cook up another batch of baseless accusations I could care less at this point. You couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with your conspiracy theories anyways.

I will no longer be active at a board that allows witch-hunts and false accusations to run rampant effectively making the truth impossible to decipher from the bullshit to the average bloke who doesn’t know the ins and outs of the AAS game and testing which very very few people do.

I will, of course, be honoring the credits stated at the start of this thread but only for PREVIOUS orders. All FUTURE orders will not be eligible for these credits. Why? Because my doors are at least officially closed to MESO. I have no reason to conduct business here and be forced to deal with the continuous witch-hunt.

I’ll say this again in closing. There is not a single person on this entire board that has actually USED my products or been scammed. Not one!! No product reviews!! IF you think you can determine quantity with LABMAX accurately you are incorrect. Flat out. It may give you an idea, but that’s all and the margin for error is obviously massive.

This is no longer about money; it’s a matter of principle. I refuse to allow a claim of “underdosed” that isn’t even true being made by a group of people who have never even used my products to stand. It will be discredited and I don't care how much $$$ or time it costs me to prove. That’s all.

Thane out.
 

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I’m going to state this for anyone new to this thread or drama. There is not a single person on this entire forum that has actually USED my products. Not one!! Not a single product review.

The way I see it there have been FOUR major points of contention brought up here. THREE out of the four I have already proved you all wrong on… the fourth is incoming. First I was told I couldn’t possibly have an analytical connect for MS. This was disproved as I posted LC/MS results on page 7. Did it matter? No. The witch-hunt continues. People just said the tests were fake or ignored them.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/thane-labs.134360506/page-7

I was told to post pictures of the clean environment in which I brew. This was posted on page 13. Did it matter? No. The witch-hunt continues.

Pics of Lab? What Lab? Am I supposed to work at Sigma Aldrich? I'm producing clean sterile gear and even built my own clean room with a HEPA filter in it ffs that's what you have pictures of. How that isn't complying with scoc is beyond me. Equipment? You mean graduated cyclinders beakers hot plate stir bar vial crimper filters vials butyl stoppers etc.... you really want a picture of that too? Makes no sense at all that stuff costs combined maybe 1k. Cheap & easy to obtain.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/thane-labs.134360506/page-13

Hell I even proved on page 6 that every source at least in recent times coming here has pulled one over on all of you by posting pictures of autoclaves and other equipment located at their local college when you told me I should have an autoclave! Did it matter? No! The witch-hunt continues.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/thane-labs.134360506/page-6

So now we’re looking at a LABMAX test where the tester did not allow the contents of the vials to settle and then check it after 10-15 mins because if he did…. then he would have gotten a strong positive…. It does NOT accurately quantitate. LABMAX was not designed for this purpose. The only way to tell if your testosterone is under-dosed or not is to get BLOODWORK - that’s a fact. I don’t blame the tester it’s not his fault because he didn't know, I know it’s not purposeful slander, and he is free to claim his $100 credit any time he wants. He knows this already.

The attached pictures were taken 4.5-5 hours after I did the video you have likely all seen by now. Obviously after sitting that long the glow had largely faded but it still demonstrates my point. I was only thinking about the video checking on the glow was an afterthought hence the long time lapse. Yeah I’m sure you’re already putting on the tin-foil hats to say I’m lying about this time lapse but I could give a crap less at this point that’s the truth anyone who does a LABMAX in the future will see this for themselves that the glow will be 30-50% stronger than what you see here. You just have to allow the contents to settle if you are going to violently shake the vial, which I disagree with anyways. The impurity present is making the glow only show up where the liquid hasn’t settled. I don’t know why, it just is this way with this batch. Look at the pictures you will see what I’m talking about. I purposefully put in a shot of where the bulk of the liquid was and there is zero glow in that area.

Really none of this even matters though. I’ve gotten BLOODWORK done that proves that this absolutely is not "underdosed" test E that’s what is so frustrating… I know for an absolute fact I’m in the right here. MS tests can be botched but bloodwork not so much. If you don't get between 3400-4000ng/dL peak TT off of pinning 500mg/wk bi-weekly then your body isn't like mine that's all I'll say. I'm not sure how high it would go pinning 1x weekly because I don't do that personally.

I am going to prove myself correct for the 4th time but this one is going to take more money and time unfortunately. You don’t just shake the vial violently and expect it to light up in 60 seconds like a glowstick that’s not how shit works. You have to check the vial again after 10-15 mins when the contents have settled. Will it matter when I do prove this to be a potent batch of test? When bloodwork is up from my gear? No. Of course not. The witch-hunt will ALWAYS continue here. That’s the issue and that’s why this place will not be a part of my solution to this “problem” even though it’s factually incorrect and thus not actually a problem at all. The test E isn’t under dosed I know this for a fact since ya know…. The blood pumping through my veins proves it. I'm repeating myself for emphasis.

Obviously, my own blood work isn’t proof to anyone but me and therein lies the issue. I’m not arrogant; if I hadn’t had blood pulled recently while running this very same batch of test I might be questioning the quality too based on LABMAX alone. But the fact is I HAVE have bloods pulled and therefore know with 100% certainty what I’m saying is true. It’s not underdosed it’s a potent batch of test E. There is a solution to this that will be put forward to prove what I say to be true but it won’t be done here at MESO. The proof is for other boards.

There is a reason other boards have a specific rule against “witchhunting”. The pseudo-intellectualism that is allowed to take place here fuels the pack mentality, the process of circle jerking over negative comments blind accusations and condemning anything remotely positive that follows thus empowers this places stupidity. I defer now to the renowned Western philosopher known simply as @clamz who spoke eloquently (sort of) on this very subject. At any rate – he was right.






He couldn’t be any more jolly on the spot in this quote except for the inclusion of me but I'm sure his opinion has changed by now since this was posted right when I opened.… I wish I had known just how bad of a cesspool this place was before I opened and had instead done so somewhere else instead. Epic mistake.

You see there’s a problem not just here at MESO but in society in general. Of course it’s MUCH worse here at MESO than in normal society, but still pretty bad in both places. People generally are followers not thinkers…. No one wants to do any work you just want things handed to you including how to think which the mainstream media – much like the idiots here at MESO – conveniently does for you. Why think for yourself? That would require work. Maybe even money. Fact is I know what the hell I’m talking about with LABMAX because I’ve used literally 60 pairs of A+B amps, the 60th being the one I used in the video actually. Not to mention yet again I’m running the very same batch of test being called “underdosed”… and because of bloodwork know for a fact it is NOT underdosed. I’m not talking out my ass and I’m going to make that very clear in my future actions.

This place is an outstanding example of this particular brand of ignorance..… it spins up bullshit just as bad as the mainstream media. If it bleeds, it leads. No fucks given about objective truth whatsoever. Post a positive review? HAH. Well now you’re a shill buddy have fun getting flamed. Post some random negative bullshit that isn’t even true? Oh shit pile on the “likes” time to jerk each other off! Truth is this place couldn’t give a fuck less about objective truth just like the media, all you want to do is whip up conspiracy theories and post negative comments even though 97% of them are completely false and being posted by retards who don’t even actually know anything of the topics on which they speak half of the time. These people would be getting called out for their lack of knowledge on any other respectable board.

People like this should be out in the streets shouting and hollering with a cardboard sign and selling pencils from a cup – not be given “well known member” badges which effectively allow them to spew baseless accusations towards anyone and everyone. Of course I’m speaking of the minority who are trolls, but one bad apple spoils the bunch.

Why do you think I know so much about the game….. which sources have access to testing and which don’t? Think about it long and hard. I may just have a friend or two. Not business partners, but friends who are in business towards the top. Privately anyways. How do I know this system prevents bunk or under dosed gear from ever reaching the customer? Because it’s exactly what they do. Literally. We use the same analyst and no it’s not the mass specs you saw I’ve stated this previously. Now I see why they never bother to talk about it out loud at least not in detail. I’m certainly not the first to ever do this - the other guys who do are just private already at least the ones I am aware of. You want proof? Kick rocks. Facts don’t matter to this place anyways. Feel free to strap your tin foil hats on tight and cook up another batch of baseless accusations I could care less at this point. You couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with your conspiracy theories anyways.

I will no longer be active at a board that allows witch-hunts and false accusations to run rampant effectively making the truth impossible to decipher from the bullshit to the average bloke who doesn’t know the ins and outs of the AAS game and testing which very very few people do.

I will, of course, be honoring the credits stated at the start of this thread but only for PREVIOUS orders. All FUTURE orders will not be eligible for these credits. Why? Because my doors are at least officially closed to MESO. I have no reason to conduct business here and be forced to deal with the continuous witch-hunt.

I’ll say this again in closing. There is not a single person on this entire board that has actually USED my products or been scammed. Not one!! No product reviews!! IF you think you can determine quantity with LABMAX accurately you are incorrect. Flat out. It may give you an idea, but that’s all and the margin for error is obviously massive.

This is no longer about money; it’s a matter of principle. I refuse to allow a claim of “underdosed” that isn’t even true being made by a group of people who have never even used my products to stand. It will be discredited and I don't care how much $$$ or time it costs me to prove. That’s all.

Thane out.
You need a paid board where someone will protect you... Nothing has even picked up and the heat is too much. Your a drug dealer and can't handle what's been thrown at you. Every source comes here thinking they have the best product, your no different. Time ONLY tells, except with you it didn't. You bowed out at the first sign of trouble. Good riddance
 
Thane you and I and all the meso members with half a brain know you didn't build that "clean room" until after you realized we weren't gonna back off asking for pics of your setup. Then you slapped this shit together in a room in your house just for pictures sake hense the 48hr departure. Come on man! You're a smart dude no doubt I can tell by your posts but we don't appreciate being taken for morons around here.
 
Thane you and I and all the meso members with half a brain know you didn't build that "clean room" until after you realized we weren't gonna back off asking for pics of your setup. Then you slapped this shit together in a room in your house just for pictures sake hense the 48hr departure. Come on man! You're a smart dude no doubt I can tell by your posts but we don't appreciate being taken for morons around here.
^^exactly, but it doesn't matter. He has exited the scene supposedly
 
Thane you and I and all the meso members with half a brain know you didn't build that "clean room" until after you realized we weren't gonna back off asking for pics of your setup. Then you slapped this shit together in a room in your house just for pictures sake hense the 48hr departure. Come on man! You're a smart dude no doubt I can tell by your posts but we don't appreciate being taken for morons around here.
He almost made it...sort of.....lol

I give him credit with posting pics of his lab. Where he failed was there was no equipment in the lab.

The moment you said "I don't want to source on meso" nailed it. It got warm in here and you panicked.

I also give you credit for posting up YOUR specs on your gear.

*NEXT TIME @thane JUST SAY YOUR HOMEBREW. Here's what I have to offer. I think I can source here at meso, and I want to to right by you. I won't run away at the 1st sign of trouble. I will MS/HPLC my gear for purity & consistency. I will test all batches as you are free to conduct your own testing.
 
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