the brew kit

I just want to point out buying a couple of vials not much heat,Raws maybe a little more.
But buying all the precursors to manufacture illegal substance at one time. kinda like buying a lab.
I'm not cutting on you're idea just something for members to consider .
Conspiracy to manufacture is a charge that's easy for them to handout .
Although it's not easily proven.
 
No BTC but CIM? You might want to reconsider this....i think the stakes are a little higher in this service you offer...IMO
He should just reconsider this whole operation lol im sorry but the more i think of it the dumber i find it to be. Just for safety's sake imagine if they decided to open up your package and find what's inside. That possession charge just turned into manufacturing with intent to distribute because of the vials. You're making it that much easier for them. I know its domestic but anything is possible.
 
He should just reconsider this whole operation lol im sorry but the more i think of it the dumber i find it to be. Just for safety's sake imagine if they decided to open up your package and find what's inside. That possession charge just turned into manufacturing with intent to distribute because of the vials. You're making it that much easier for them. I know its domestic but anything is possible.
Yeah it would be conspiracy at the very least I mean one leak and you're fckd.
 
He should just reconsider this whole operation lol im sorry but the more i think of it the dumber i find it to be. Just for safety's sake imagine if they decided to open up your package and find what's inside. That possession charge just turned into manufacturing with intent to distribute because of the vials. You're making it that much easier for them. I know its domestic but anything is possible.
Just a thought, also. But this is essentially a "build-a-walter white" like kit. I know im exaggerating, however, the fact that CIM is offered publicly nonetheless is concerning. In that, how secure is OPs operation? Who knows...the idea itself isnt bad as ive said before but do we really know as to what extent (you know who) will go to pursue such a service/product?
 
Just a thought, also. But this is essentially a "build-a-walter white" like kit. I know im exaggerating, however, the fact that CIM is offered publicly nonetheless is concerning. In that, how secure is OPs operation? Who knows...the idea itself isnt bad as ive said before but do we really know as to what extent (you know who) will go to pursue such a service/product?
CIM offered publicly absolutely reveals just how flawed this whole thing is. This is how you know you're dealing with a complete amateur and not someone with any experience of any kind. The raws are probably from a source on here that we already use just like that other clown that came on here trying to sell us second hand gear.
 
If it is gear from raw sources here why should it matter. Someone else is taking the risk getting through customs. And it will be cheaper than ugl.

We will see how it goes. If he respects his customers here he will make it, if not he won't.
 
We will see how it goes. If he respects his customers here he will make it, if not he won't.
Not so fast....respect does NOT equate to business success, it's can be an integral part of a sustainable business equation, but not an end all, be all.
As I pointed out in my 1st post in this thread, I don't believe his target market is very substantial and customer "respect" isn't going to broaden it by much.
Profitability is the ultimate driver in most small business ventures, and IMO this one IS small in terms of available market, and not so profitable.
 
I don't believe his target market is very substantial
Did you take a survey? It is getting more difficult to get packs through customs. This is really no different than a domestic raw source. Imo, there are members who would say this could be a valuable service.

Do you have any evidence to suggest this source will scam members? I not saying either way because we just don't know at this point.
 
CIM offered publicly absolutely reveals just how flawed this whole thing is. This is how you know you're dealing with a complete amateur and not someone with any experience of any kind. The raws are probably from a source on here that we already use just like that other clown that came on here trying to sell us second hand gear.
Hey bro, been around since 2000! I can do CIM to any fucking address in the great USA! I'm not stupid, Hell, orders will ship from various states. Not one will be from the state I am from!
 
Sounds like you just want to source.

I can't argue with that, but do think there is a difference, mainly that it is cheaper than a ugl.

I have had many members contact me about brewing but they don't want to risk a pack of raw getting seized.
 
I just want to point out buying a couple of vials not much heat,Raws maybe a little more.
But buying all the precursors to manufacture illegal substance at one time. kinda like buying a lab.
I'm not cutting on you're idea just something for members to consider .
Conspiracy to manufacture is a charge that's easy for them to handout .
Although it's not easily proven.
Thanks bro, just by posting this info, is like telling the DEA to look at this service.
 
LE side of things will always be a factor for this type of transaction. I'm not sure if you are emailing the directions, but better to leave that out of the package. The reality is just from reading other boards. Sources get orders that have address mistakes and packs end up getting returned to sender which is a fake address... So eventually you may have a pack that will be floating around. Actually, it's like a med lab supply shipment, and possibly stealthing the raws would help. I think people will order from you. Prices are good. For those on here that brew... Think how much time is spent researching, assembling supplies, not to mention typically have to buy bulk supplies.... There is a value here... People want to brew and pin.. I would start taking bitcoin for opsec... Interesting idea... Just like any source... Good as OP makes it...
 
Thanks bro, just by posting this info, is like telling the DEA to look at this service.
The DEA caught wind of your business endeavor on your first post.I wouldn't sweat it. They know what you are doing.

It is the years of experience you have and the security measures you use that keeps everyone safe.


Guys think about what you post before you hit "post reply".
 
LE side of things will always be a factor for this type of transaction. I'm not sure if you are emailing the directions, but better to leave that out of the package. The reality is just from reading other boards. Sources get orders that have address mistakes and packs end up getting returned to sender which is a fake address... So eventually you may have a pack that will be floating around. Actually, it's like a med lab supply shipment, and possibly stealthing the raws would help. I think people will order from you. Prices are good. For those on here that brew... Think how much time is spent researching, assembling supplies, not to mention typically have to buy bulk supplies.... There is a value here... People want to brew and pin.. I would start taking bitcoin for opsec... Interesting idea... Just like any source... Good as OP makes it...
I agree. There are members who express interest in this concept. It's all in one shopping.

There is always a risk, my main concern is that customers are protected. @thebrewkit how do you protect members who use your service? I mean what do you do with members shipping addresses.
 
Thanks bro, just by posting this info, is like telling the DEA to look at this service.
My post brings heat lmao you are the one who come up with the dumb ass idea and started the thread.
Just because I'm trying to keep new members safe by pointing out the obvious and I proof read everything I post safety and harm reduction should be at the forefront of every member that cares about fellow members .
 
My post brings heat lmao you are the one who come up with the dumb ass idea and started the thread.
A dumb ass idea to you may be an idea others appreciate. How about you let members decide for themselves.
 
My post brings heat lmao you are the one who come up with the dumb ass idea and started the thread.
Just because I'm trying to keep new members safe by pointing out the obvious and I proof read everything I post safety and harm reduction should be at the forefront of every member that cares about fellow members .
I can appreciate this. What is it exactly that you disagree with?
I don't see a down side here.
 
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