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The things he said are true also the cycle layoout is very good. He also say about training etc hit stylke wich i agree and its the style i use and i find i get the most gains the facts he say about steroids and hgh and dosages are also true its true that you see the real power of tren from 700mg and up.
I was using ugl test and i couldnt break the 200lb barrier also the dosage i took was not right. Also the test/aas ratio is right i have used low test high tren and it lacked in results in terms of mass and fullness also after 5-6 weeks i was havving tren dick.
When i start to use pharma grade test and tren on right dosages and also hit style training i was see the gains i wanted. About hgh i dont know but i imagine is right i dont know because i dont use hgh yet but i can clearly see the lack of progress on professional bb without hgh.

Personally he did me good i don't agree with all but the base is right
 
The things he said are true also the cycle layoout is very good. He also say about training etc hit stylke wich i agree and its the style i use and i find i get the most gains the facts he say about steroids and hgh and dosages are also true its true that you see the real power of tren from 700mg and up.
I was using ugl test and i couldnt break the 200lb barrier also the dosage i took was not right. Also the test/aas ratio is right i have used low test high tren and it lacked in results in terms of mass and fullness also after 5-6 weeks i was havving tren dick.
When i start to use pharma grade test and tren on right dosages and also hit style training i was see the gains i wanted. About hgh i dont know but i imagine is right i dont know because i dont use hgh yet but i can clearly see the lack of progress on professional bb without hgh.

Personally he did me good i don't agree with all but the base is right
thanks for your input man. Do you also use eq? what dosage is your test and eq respectively?
 
have tried it but strangely couldn't handle it chest delts neck and head was like a tomato and my head was going to explode. It is strange because i use high test 1-1.2grams and tren up to a gram and never had this problem. Also a fella who i know used boldenone on many cycles and he has blood thickening problems and its on medication for life. My hematocrit on high test/tren is fine but on eq idk wtf is happening i have used it on 900mg couldnt go past week 8 but i plan to try it again on future it seems promising
 
have tried it but strangely couldn't handle it chest delts neck and head was like a tomato and my head was going to explode. It is strange because i use high test 1-1.2grams and tren up to a gram and never had this problem. Also a fella who i know used boldenone on many cycles and he has blood thickening problems and its on medication for life. My hematocrit on high test/tren is fine but on eq idk wtf is happening i have used it on 900mg couldnt go past week 8 but i plan to try it again on future it seems promising
What about protein intake man, did you follow his recommendation?
 
You should donate blood when using aas anyway.. especially on eq... I donate every 8 weeks regardless.. when I ran test eq tren.. I definitely had to donate.. yiu start feeling toxic.. but I watch my blood being drawn and thank God my blood didn’t come out syrupy and slow..
 
You should donate blood when using aas anyway.. especially on eq... I donate every 8 weeks regardless.. when I ran test eq tren.. I definitely had to donate.. yiu start feeling toxic.. but I watch my blood being drawn and thank God my blood didn’t come out syrupy and slow..

I collapsed the vein first time through. Had a hemo of 54%. Needed to drink more water but it was a son of a bitch having to wait another 8 weeks when they only got half.

For anyone if you plan to donate blood, water, water, water and I’d recommend no workout the day before just to make sure you don’t sweat half of it out.
 
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I collapsed the vein first time through. Had a hemo of 54%. Needed to drink more water but it was a son of a bitch having to wait another 8 weeks when they only got half.

For anyone if you plan to donate blood, water, water, water and I’d recommend no workout the day before just to make sure you don’t sweat half of it out.
i consume a gallon and a half a day m-f and maybe close to a gallon a day on weekends
 
Agree .
300mg of tren ace will show some very nice results . Doubling it doesn't bring twice the results .

I was just watching a John Meadows video last night about PED usage between "then" and "now".

It was kind of unbelievable. John went through his early AAS usage experience and what the guys back in the day were doing. Parabolin for instance was only 76mg an amp... Guys were using just a few of them a week at the pro level.

Then he went through some of the cycles that his new clients are on when they come to him from other coaches... Fucking 1500mg of tren, 2000mg of test, 150-300mcg of T3.

He made a good point in that his opinion was physiques really havent vastly improved from back then until now, and I tend to agree with him... In many ways they're getting much worse. If I have to see Roelly's distended gut one more time on instagram I'm going to puke.
 
I love his threads, some golden info in there if you are looking at going pro. Another great read over there is the 70s style bodybuilding thread by DrX. I actually appreciate his info better. Lower doses and use test, deca and dbol only for that 70s bodybuilder look. Great thread.
 
@Eman john meadows is a smart guy ..

I think people like him are vital to keeping checks and balances in bodybuilding. He's honest and has a harm reduction mindset but loves the sport in a big way... It's a good mix. He is a down to earth dude too, he feels relatable... Not many bodybuilders are like that.
 
I was just watching a John Meadows video last night about PED usage between "then" and "now".

It was kind of unbelievable. John went through his early AAS usage experience and what the guys back in the day were doing. Parabolin for instance was only 76mg an amp... Guys were using just a few of them a week at the pro level.

Then he went through some of the cycles that his new clients are on when they come to him from other coaches... Fucking 1500mg of tren, 2000mg of test, 150-300mcg of T3.

He made a good point in that his opinion was physiques really havent vastly improved from back then until now, and I tend to agree with him... In many ways they're getting much worse. If I have to see Roelly's distended gut one more time on instagram I'm going to puke.

Meadows is awesome. I don't subscribe to high does or multiple compound cycles, maybe 2 like test npp, but not 1000mg of 3 compumds .that's all nuts.
 
John meadows is a great guy, I only had the chance to know about him recently, the guy is very humble and down to earth like @Eman said and very longevity focused, and his programs are well thought. With that being said, claiming that he puts his clients at 800 mg of test and 600 mg of tren and they qualify for Olympia on those dosages is just a load of horseshit and we all know that. I get that the man wants people that watch his videos to be safe and healthy, but unfortunately that only leads to more misinformation and keeps burying this “sport” and it’s fans and athletes in ignorance.

Everyone lies about their dosages and the coumpounds they take, and the length they take them for, everyone, and if this isn’t common knowledge by now, people need to get a fucking grip on reality man.
 
Everyone lies about their dosages and the coumpounds they take, and the length they take them for, everyone, and if this isn’t common knowledge by now, people need to get a fucking grip on reality man.

This is a dangerous notion to carry with you into your bodybuilding/AAS journey if you believe it to be gospel at all times. It's true but certainly not to the extent you're claiming by saying Meadows is FOS with the dosages he recommends (he's not lying).

A question for you personally though if you don't mind: do you have previous experience mega dosing AAS? What were the results like compared to say 1500mg a week of combined AAS?

Off topic but I personally am a big advocate of Meadows off-season approach (300mg test, GH, Insulin). Much better for longevity to not have a bunch of shit inside you when you're at your heaviest and focus on training.
 
This is a dangerous notion to carry with you into your bodybuilding journey if you believe it to be gospel at all times. It's true but certainly not to the extent you're claiming by saying Meadows is FOS with the dosages he recommends (he's not lying).

A question for you personally though: do you have experience mega dosing AAS? What were the results like compared to say 1500mg a week of combined AAS?
The more I took the more I grew, the less fat I gained when I bulked, the less muscle mass I lost during a cut. Lately with a little over a gram of combined anabolics per week I think I can safely say that I pretty much didn’t lose any muscle during my last 2 cuts. Diet and training are always on point, so is recovery.

It’s simple: the more you take the better results you get, it’s not rocket science, but of course, the more you take the more complications you risk having.

I’m an advocate of hard work first, but unfortunately in this world hard work alone can only take you so far. I will keep working hard and increasing my doses whenever needed to get to achieve my goals.
 

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