The Lobster International, AU, CANADA and EU Domestic HGH, PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy

[Bobik]

Let me share my experience with Lobster's HGH as well.

I tested my HGH serum level on 30th of May - 2.3 ng/ml
Started pinning Lobster 2.7iu ED SubQ on 14th of June
Waited 11 days
On 25th of June I pinned 10iu SubQ and 3 hours later did a test - 9.52 ng/ml

Keep in mind this is the first HGH I ever tried so unfortunately have no perspective over other vendors. All I can say I have zero sides with it and blood results speak for themselves.

A couple of days ago I started pinning IM, will wait 10 more days and repeat serum test, read those threads discussing difference between SubQ and IM and I am extremely curious.

Will post the results here.

I also did a serum GH test, but IM and only 5iu. My level was 16.9. Good results for me.

 

[Sampei]

I offer to cover it for you. What do you pay for GH test over there if you don't mind?

Cool experiment, same subject.

It's cheap I think it's not more than 20/25 euro gotta check again, thanks for the offer but there is no need

 

[Sampei]

I also did a serum GH test, but IM and only 5iu. My level was 16.9. Good results for me.

It's hard to know what is good or bad if we don't stick to the standard test we have been using forever for the serum test:

10IU IM blood drawn 2.5/3 hours later.

If you use this formula you can compare your GH serum test to other test done even 10 years ago, any other variables inserted and then you can't compare it and so you don't have a scale to say: it's good or it's bad.

Just some general information explanation for anyone reading it

 

[Ateam2023]

Let me share my experience with Lobster's HGH as well.

I tested my HGH serum level on 30th of May - 2.3 ng/ml
Started pinning Lobster 2.7iu ED SubQ on 14th of June
Waited 11 days
On 25th of June I pinned 10iu SubQ and 3 hours later did a test - 9.52 ng/ml

Keep in mind this is the first HGH I ever tried so unfortunately have no perspective over other vendors. All I can say I have zero sides with it and blood results speak for themselves.

A couple of days ago I started pinning IM, will wait 10 more days and repeat serum test, read those threads discussing difference between SubQ and IM and I am extremely curious.

Will post the results here.

i think its more effective imo if you do the bolus IM 3 hrs before, subq releases slower compared to im , hence why the IMbolus ,,

 

[Ateam2023]

Thanks for having GH serum done. IGF is far too variable between individuals to be a reliable guide, but GH serum is consistent

You have zero sides because 9 mg/ml GH at 3 hours is far below what it should be for a 10iu dose. So there's much less bioactive GH present than there should be.

That's because misfolded, oxidized, and/or aggregated rHGH still appears "pure" in testing, but can't actually bind to GH receptors.

The most likely explanation for all the other "Wow unlike every other generic brand no sides on Lobs, even at really high doses, it's so clean!" posts, lol.

he didn't even do the test correctly, i thought you of all people would have seen the fact he did a sub q bolus , and we all know the right way to pull a gh serum test,,

 

[Ghoul]

To check for understanding, your hypothesis is that a good fraction of Lobster's GH in this case was not picked up by the immunoenzymatic assay?

See method description section in this link for example:

https://pediatric.testcatalog.org/show/HGH

I think we also have to be careful about setting 95 or 99% CI for serum GH on 10 IU dose and the factors that affect it.

Couple of good clinical trials IIRC but I dont remember the CIs off hand at those doses.

No worries, as always, I have the data, and just don't bother posting it unless interest is expressed from someone with an intelligent response. The following post below is from one of 3 studies, all using similar methodology, SC like the member, all healthy adults.

The results of all three studies showed similar GH concentration. I chose this one because it had the lowest GH serum level of the 3 (so no "cherry picking" exceptional results, in fact I chose the worst).

And within these results, I picked the absolute worst case scenario. The lowest of the low.

As you'll see, at 10iu 9.5 ng /ml is still
far, far below the worst possible result.

Does the reason for such dismal results really matter? Whether loss of bioactivity is the result of sloppy handling from this vendor's belief that rHGH oxidation doesn't exist (his old 50iu vials and raw rHGH powder are not stored in an oxygen free vacuum, for instance), or his product having the wrong ph causing instability after reconstitution and a loss of bioavailability is irrelevant.

Results matter, and serum GH has long been recognized by the community as the most reliable, objective method of testing if rHGH is actually good.

Unlike HPLC "purity", serum GH only measures bioactive, bioavailable rHGH.

Unlike IGF, serum GH doesn't depend on a million individual factors like insulin sensitivity or liver health.

Serum GH is a stable, reliable maker all pharma companies quote in their product literature.

 

[Kralteramon]

It's all good mate, we are having a normal conversation about it. No one is attacking anyone xD

You can't declare to low I believe because it will raise suspicions, how much did you pay just to understand it better. Once I paid something like 10 euro and another time 24/25 euro more or less.

For me it was like 30 euro's. Not a huge amount.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Ghouls vendetta against Lobster is so nuts.


Get a hobby bro. Youre really out here grasping at straws.

OMG HE HAD A BATCH WITHOUT VACUUM. Okay and he said he fixed that.

OMG SOME KID DOESNT KNOW HOW TO DRAW GH AND ITS BUBBLY. Literally just bubbles.

OMG HIS GH IS MISFOLDED LOOK AT THE GH SERUM TEST. Okay but the guy did the serum test wrong.

Almost all of us have gotten bloodwork while on lobster GH and its been good to go.

I was using a 11iu vial every night for months and I got great results. I dont have a complaint. I switched between Lobs and SSA 11iu vials without much difference, maybe more water and CTS with SSA. If the stuff wasnt good I wouldnt keep buying it.

 

[Ateam2023]

10IU of lobster 2.5h after injection IM
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Be mindful it's OVER 40. as my lab don't give values above it.

Drop mic.

i will pull a gh serum test in a couple weeks with @lobsters new turkey kits, im also down to throw in on testing this new promo hgh

 

[Kralteramon]

Just a reminder, it is safe to say ALL generic, unlabeled no name HGH is made in China. Doesn't matter if Lobsters Joe from the gym, Gold start HGH, or whoever. They likely put on various color caps, whatever color they have in stock at that time, etc.

It is very likely most of the larger sources buy from a select group of the same manufactures.

Yeah, but it matters where they put the actual HGH powder into vials and what fillers they use. Are we sure that's done in China for lob as well? Or does he do it in Turkey with his own formula for the domestic stuff?

 

[Ateam2023]

Do you have one with SSA or Q's GH?



Raws are the same tho. All China

Post in thread 'The Lobster International, AU, CANADA and EU Domestic HGH, PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy'

Jun 20, 2025

The cap color is black for 110 and yellow for 310. I have run out of orange caps, but new ones are on the way

In China, there is only one legally licensed company that produces HGH raw material. Anyone can research this for themselves. There is no raw material production in Turkey. I source all raw materials from China, only from official and licensed companies. I do not purchase from any underground producers and I strictly work with legitimate suppliers only

Thank you

• TheLobster

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i pulled a 56 gh serum test on q's

 

[Ghoul]

Here is the data for 15iu (5mg) of rHGH Genotropin and Omnitrope (vial and ready to use versions) injected into 48 healthy adult volunteers.

GH serum concentration has a linear relationship to the dose. So 2/3 of 15iu serum levels will be equal to 10iu.

The lowest GH numbers were from Genotropin so I'll use that.

Serum GH for 15iu at 3 hours 28-68 ng/ml.

At 10iu the equivalent is 19-45 ng/ml.

19 ng/ml, the worst case scenario for GH levels at 10iu, is DOUBLE the member's awful 9.5ng/ml result.

And the median at 15iu was 48. At 10iu Genotropin the median is 32, 3.5 TIMES HIGHER than 10iu of that pure, side effect free Lobster goodness.



I think results like these call for a new brand slogan, don't you?



"Lobster Growth Hormone , so CLEAN you won't feel ANYTHING!"

 

[readalot]

Here is the data for 15iu (5mg) of rHGH Genotropin and Omnitrope (vial and ready to use versions) injected into 48 healthy adult volunteers.

GH serum concentration has a linear relationship to the dose. So 2/3 of 15iu serum levels will be equal to 10iu.

The lowest GH numbers were from Genotropin so I'll use that.

Serum GH for 15iu at 3 hours 28-68 ng/ml.

At 10iu the equivalent is 19-45 ng/ml.

19 ng/ml, the worst case scenario for GH levels at 10iu, is DOUBLE the member's awful 9.5ng/ml result.

And the median at 15iu was 48. At 10iu Genotropin the median is 32, 3.5 TIMES HIGHER than 10iu of that pure, side effect free Lobster goodness.

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I think results like these call for a new brand slogan, don't you?

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"Lobster Growth Hormone , so CLEAN you won't feel ANYTHING!"

Thank you for these data. I will review and appreciate your time compiling the info.

 

[readalot]

Let's do the nmr testing

Caution if you go this route. All you will get is the data and Jano won't interpret. Very tedious analysis work.

I was headed down the circular dichroism path which requires a pharma standard to compare UG sample against. Interpretation much simpler.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/search/1701236/?q=Circular+dichroism&o=relevance

Also the Nb2 assay for bioactivity. Haven't found a lab for that yet. The serum GH tests are a great backstop.

 

[readalot]

Here is the data for 15iu (5mg) of rHGH Genotropin and Omnitrope (vial and ready to use versions) injected into 48 healthy adult volunteers.

GH serum concentration has a linear relationship to the dose. So 2/3 of 15iu serum levels will be equal to 10iu.

The lowest GH numbers were from Genotropin so I'll use that.

Serum GH for 15iu at 3 hours 28-68 ng/ml.

At 10iu the equivalent is 19-45 ng/ml.

19 ng/ml, the worst case scenario for GH levels at 10iu, is DOUBLE the member's awful 9.5ng/ml result.

And the median at 15iu was 48. At 10iu Genotropin the median is 32, 3.5 TIMES HIGHER than 10iu of that pure, side effect free Lobster goodness.

View attachment 335546

I think results like these call for a new brand slogan, don't you?

View attachment 335548

"Lobster Growth Hormone , so CLEAN you won't feel ANYTHING!"

Very nice data set. From these data we can calculate 95 or 99% CI using t-score with n = 24.

Roughly 48 +/- 11.5 for 99%tile.

Hence LCL is 36.5.
10/15 × 36.5 = 24.3 ng/ml (99% lower confidence limit for 10 IU using t-score since n less than 30)

Confidence Interval Calculator: Single-Sample T Statistic

An easy confidence interval calculator for estimating a population mean from a single sample. Provides full details of workings.

www.socscistatistics.com

Thanks Ghoul. Nice floor to keep in mind for this type of test.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Here is the data for 15iu (5mg) of rHGH Genotropin and Omnitrope (vial and ready to use versions) injected into 48 healthy adult volunteers.

GH serum concentration has a linear relationship to the dose. So 2/3 of 15iu serum levels will be equal to 10iu.

The lowest GH numbers were from Genotropin so I'll use that.

Serum GH for 15iu at 3 hours 28-68 ng/ml.

At 10iu the equivalent is 19-45 ng/ml.

19 ng/ml, the worst case scenario for GH levels at 10iu, is DOUBLE the member's awful 9.5ng/ml result.

And the median at 15iu was 48. At 10iu Genotropin the median is 32, 3.5 TIMES HIGHER than 10iu of that pure, side effect free Lobster goodness.

View attachment 335546

I think results like these call for a new brand slogan, don't you?

View attachment 335548

"Lobster Growth Hormone , so CLEAN you won't feel ANYTHING!"

This data was collected from a subcutaneous administration or intra muscular?

Why do you discount the GH serum results from other members that prove the GH is real?

If this was the result for SSA GH or QSC GH would you be so pedantic about it?

 

[dick_starbuck]

This data was collected from a subcutaneous administration or intra muscular?

Why do you discount the GH serum results from other members that prove the GH is real?

If this was the result for SSA GH or QSC GH would you be so pedantic about it?

After reading the image I see it was SC.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Here is the data for 15iu (5mg) of rHGH Genotropin and Omnitrope (vial and ready to use versions) injected into 48 healthy adult volunteers.

GH serum concentration has a linear relationship to the dose. So 2/3 of 15iu serum levels will be equal to 10iu.

The lowest GH numbers were from Genotropin so I'll use that.

Serum GH for 15iu at 3 hours 28-68 ng/ml.

At 10iu the equivalent is 19-45 ng/ml.

19 ng/ml, the worst case scenario for GH levels at 10iu, is DOUBLE the member's awful 9.5ng/ml result.

And the median at 15iu was 48. At 10iu Genotropin the median is 32, 3.5 TIMES HIGHER than 10iu of that pure, side effect free Lobster goodness.

View attachment 335546

I think results like these call for a new brand slogan, don't you?

View attachment 335548

"Lobster Growth Hormone , so CLEAN you won't feel ANYTHING!"

Lets do some more testing of our own. Stop avoiding it and put down money or STFU.

 

[Wizbang]

Lets do some more testing of our own. Stop avoiding it and put down money or STFU.

where are people putting money down? I am all for more testing.

 

[Ghoul]

Caution if you go this route. All you will get is the data and Jano won't interpret. Very tedious analysis work.

I was headed down the circular dichroism path which requires a pharma standard to compare UG sample against. Interpretation much simpler.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/search/1701236/?q=Circular+dichroism&o=relevance

Also the Nb2 assay for bioactivity. Haven't found a lab for that yet. The serum GH tests are a great backstop.

At $25-30 a test it would be nice to see vendors offer double or triple credit for serum GH testing (for time and inconvenience).

I think this was fairly common before Jano testing became the norm.

Obviously it's not an infallible test, mostly because of the human factor, but it really gets to the bottom line in terms effectiveness.

Very nice data set. From these data we can calculate 95 or 99% CI using t-score with n = 24.

Roughly 48 +/- 11.5 for 99%tile.

Hence LCL is 36.5.
10/15 × 36.5 = 24.3 ng/ml (99% lower confidence limit for 10 IU using t-score since n less than 30)

Confidence Interval Calculator: Single-Sample T Statistic

An easy confidence interval calculator for estimating a population mean from a single sample. Provides full details of workings.

www.socscistatistics.com

Thanks Ghoul. Nice floor to keep in mind for this type of test.

Impressive deep analysis, and like you said, that's the floor. We should expect better than that.

I believe Alex derived these numbers from observation of forum posted results, reinforcing the fact 10iu from a broad range of UGL and pharma brands should elicit much more than 9.5 ng/ml. 30-40ng.

Post in thread 'HGH + IGF1 Serum testing question'

May 29, 2025

The quick & dirty serum GH assay: inject 10 IU IM and get GH measured 2-3 hours later. Typical response is around 30-40 ng/mL.

For IGF1, measure before starting GH and then after a few weeks on whatever dose you're doing, then get IGF1 measured again. Time of GH injection vs time of blood draw doesn't matter. There is a pretty big range in responses.

• AlexDavis43

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One other clarification, modern Serum GH testing uses an antibody "sandwich" technique. It's very good at specifically measuring active rHGH only, but not perfect.

Antibodies try to dock onto specifically shaped patterns on proteins (epitopes), and when they do they activate in a way that can be detected by the analysis machine ( they become uv reactive for instance).

But these epitopes can be intact on protein fragments or misfolded proteins causing an inactive molecule to be falsely detected as bioactive.

Sandwiching requires 2 antibodies that both have to dock on separate parts of the rHGH molecule in order to "count", and if it's broken, misfolded, or oxidized it's very unlikely for both antibodies to dock.

So the TLDR is there's still a small chance of inactive rHGH giving a falsely high serum GH reading, but very unlikely to be more than a few percent, vs HPLC which counts many inactive forms (misfolded, oxidized) towards purity. Running the numbers, if 60% of an rHGH sample in a 97% pure rHGH consisted of inactive rHGH, serum GH would "see" <10% of those inactive monomers.

Also, defective rHGH that counts as "pure" in HPLC is more likely to rapidly degrade or be destroyed by the immune system once injected. A bad formulation resulting in the wrong PH can make rHGH precipitate in the injection site. So none of those reach the blood and are excluded from the serum GH number, making it an even more accurate measure of functional rHGH.