You'll have to experiment with a glucose monitor.
I break my 850mg tabs in half and take half with breakfast and half before bed.
Some only take 500, some do 2000, some do 500xr.
Start low though to avoid digestive problems.
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You'll have to experiment with a glucose monitor.
I break my 850mg tabs in half and take half with breakfast and half before bed.
Some only take 500, some do 2000, some do 500xr.
Start low though to avoid digestive problems.
I would also add that the meformin will most likely decrease your IGF-1 levels.
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I wouldn't anticipate it to be by much. The benefits definitely outweigh any negative imo.
Could also try berberine.
I believe it's around 40-80 mcg/L if I remember correctly. Also a slight decrease in free testosterone levels.
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No, he's actually right. The black tops have been marketed as 5mg in a 10iu vial for as long as I've seen TP carry them... It's confusing though since 5mg doesn't equal 10iu.
What makes it less confusing, I guess, is that they are sold as 10iu vials when you're buying them. Every kit you get is treated as 100iu when it really is more than that, hopefully anyways!
I was stating they are 15 iu vials as there is 15 iu or 5mg in the vial. I guess it was a misunderstanding. Someone could put 8 iu's, 10 iu's, 15 iu's or 20 iu's in a hgh-peptide style vials which are sold actually as 3ml vials if I'm not mistaken. We just call them 10 iu vials as that's what usually comes in them I'm guessing.
Sorry to confuse anyone.
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I understood what you were saying, but I knew what the other guy was saying too... No misunderstanding!
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TP is selling 10iu and deliberately overdosing the vials 5iu. Which could arguably be the case with the grey tops in certain instances ... and I've seen it claimed by him .... and who knows for how long or batch consistency of the deliberate over dosage ... I assume this is done to make up for purity/degradation concerns/etc etc ...
I'm also not talking about the physical vial size ... I'm strictly talking about how the source is determining and offering his sales quote, and how the product is labeled.
This will ultimately lead to confusion as some in the know would recon and report IU dose differently then the user who goes by the 100iu box label
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I re-read your post and saw what you were trying to convey.
Point is they should be reconstituted at 1.5 ml IMO.
Him running 4 ius after reconstituted with 1.2 ml, he's actually running more. I know it's not by much but nonetheless it is.
Black tops state they are 5mg so should be measured so.
The grey tops will never be overdosed by very much by the factory. And TP has never claimed they have or ever will be. The factory has been asked to do so and they will not.
mands
What ever happened with the follow up testing on that pharma sample?
It was tested three times I believe and I have some assays on them to review. I'm waiting to talk to the other lab(actually Jim is waiting) and see what they think and if we can come to conclusion why the low score.
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Pm that Turkish source I talked him into giving you some pharm grade hgh for testing
Let's see how the Primo and Anadrol test first.Pm that Turkish source I talked him into giving you some pharm grade hgh for testing
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Cpriest88
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Well in that case then TP should relabel the meditropes to 150iu per kit and reduce the price point ... cause as it stands now the actual packaging for the kits display 100iu and house 10 vials.
@muscle96ss hasnt tp claimed the greys are overdosed as well? I could've sworn I saw mention of it on ProM or possibly confused posts by you on here relaying such statements by him.
He never claimed the greys were overdosed.
You're getting 50iu for free and you want him to reduce the price?
You're getting 50iu for free and you want him to reduce the price?
The Blacks ARE cheaper than the greys.
I know PD clearly states that theses are 5mg, 150iu kits.
Cpriest88
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i think you guys are missing my point ...All I'm saying is TP is selling it and labeling it as 10iu and marketing it as 15iu ... I'm not literally suggesting he does anything cause as it stands now ... we the end users all win.
And I'm not privy to PDs blacktop pricing or labeling ... just strictly speaking about TP
muscle96ss
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The greys will never be overdosed and he has never claimed them to be. As mands stated, they are produced under strict guidelines. In addition, they will always contain exactly what they say they contain, no matter what others choose to believe(not referring to you Cpriest).
The blacks were brought to the market when guys like Toraxx, 6-Fingers, and others were claiming to severely overdose their GH. So in order to compete with those brands, it was simply a business strategy. People are making too big of a deal about it. Each batch is lab tested to ensure they are roughly 5mg per vial. People can reconstitute as a 10iu vial and enjoy the bonus or they can treat it as 15iu; its up to the individual. Either way nobody comes out a loser.
No problem. I gotcha brother... I don't understand why TP wouldn't advertise the blacks as being 150iu kits.....UNLESS he'd rather sell more greys, since they have a longer track record.
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