The truth about Hardasnails1973

[newbie23]

Think about this way Victor, you were all over the board through your TRT journey, and have tried many different protocols. I am very glad you found a program that suits your needs and makes you happy. My point is though i could stick the next 10 people on your protocol and it may not agree with any of them.

If I had a child with Autism and there was hope in someone without credentials, you better believe I would consider giving it a shot.

 

[sako]

That I don't know and honestly Victor it really doesn't matter to me, as I said before TRT is not this scary treatment that can get "fucked up" its merely supplementation, its far more dangerous to go to your local GNC and supplement than it is to your local testosterone bottle.

Im not saying that a Dr shouldn't sign off on everything, cause they should, but what does that really mean anyway? once the relationship is formed I'm sure he doesn't even look at the file anymore.

why keep bringing up TRT? HANS posts encompass much more than simple TRT, infact thats how he markets himself, as being able to solve your problems without needing TRT in the first place. This is because you need to backfill your energetic field pin, and only he can do it. (In his sleep, mind you).

HAN is not a genius, and he kills his own credibility by pathologically lying, while using predatory tactics to scoop up customers (That's how he got me a few years ago, but he excuses this because supposedly he knows alot more now than he did then). There's no use for me to continue arguing really, i've seen this shit countless times already, this is just one of the more obvious cases. All of the facts are laid out there for the prospective marks (Thanks to the internet, although i suspect he'll start censoring some of his own shit sooner or later)so i guess its just down to Darwinism at this point. Good luck

 

[newbie23]

why keep bringing up TRT? HANS posts encompass much more than simple TRT, infact thats how he markets himself, as being able to solve your problems without needing TRT in the first place. This is because you need to backfill your energetic field pin, and only he can do it. (In his sleep, mind you)

I understand your point, that maybe some of his beliefs don't sit well with you, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't help certain types.

Honestly most of the guys I see in there 30's and 40's probably could get by without TRT, it would just be a much longer tougher road.

I no longer think I know everything, everyday I am reminded I don't, so unless people are coming to the board in droves saying that HAN is the worst asshole on the planet, then whats the problem? Why do you care what helps one guy and not the next?

Ive known HAN for years on the board and some of the stuff I don't agree with, but I have also never tried it, so I don't knock it.

 

[sako]

I understand your point, that maybe some of his beliefs don't sit well with you, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't help certain types.

Honestly most of the guys I see in there 30's and 40's probably could get by without TRT, it would just be a much longer tougher road.

I no longer think I know everything, everyday I am reminded I don't, so unless people are coming to the board in droves saying that HAN is the worst asshole on the planet, then whats the problem? Why do you care what helps one guy and not the next?

Ive known HAN for years on the board and some of the stuff I don't agree with, but I have also never tried it, so I don't knock it.

There's just a long history here, and i dont care enough at this point to really go into it; in short, HAN has been thrown off of several forum boards already. And yes, i was also a "victim" of his. Partly my fault, of course

 

[newbie23]

There's just a long history here, and i dont care enough at this point to really go into it; in short, HAN has been thrown off of several forum boards already. And yes, i was also a "victim" of his. Partly my fault, of course

There are those out there that will say I did not help them, but there are 10 behind him that will praise me.

There is a certain failure rate to any type of therapeutic program. This does not mean HANS is an idiot, it just means he couldn't help you.

I guess I will leave it at that cause maybe there is more to the story. I am just saying that nobody's perfect and TRT def isn't either.

It is also something that is relatively safe, so I am not into to all the credential hogwash........ so i get all wound up when people start throwing there credentials, or others lack of around.

 

[idmd]

If I had a child with Autism and there was hope in someone without credentials, you better believe I would consider giving it a shot.

This is one of my problems with people like HAN. I treat autistic kids every single day in my practice. I've been speaking to and have developed relationships with the patents of autistic children for years now. I treat their children when no one else will. I bring their non-verbal combative child to the OR when no one else will.

These parents are the MOST vulnerable, distressed, desperate people you will ever meet. Every moment of everyday is a fight. This breaks up marriages, families, affects siblings, etc. On top of that life expectancy for these kids is not reduced and so parents of 3 year olds are already obsessing about who will care for their 60 year old child when they're dead and the money is gone?

I've seen it all...had patents try every kind of alternative therapy and it's never made a difference. These kids have anatomically different brains...they will never normal....yes some mildly affected kids with Asperger's will learn to make their way in the world and early diagnosis and treatment can be very helpful but a non-verbal 10 year old will never achieve any level of independent living.

This doesn't stop people like HAN from selling hope in a hopeless situation.

Like it or not pieces of paper on the wall count. Like it or not understanding this stuff requires an extraordinary amount of knowledge and training. Like it or not educated people write in full grammatically correct sentences.

To all you would-be doctors on here who think just because you saw someone not proficient in TRT that this somehow makes you more knowledgable then even the shittiest MD/DO about any aspect of medicine you're fucking delusional. You couldn't make it through a day with out killing someone and regurgitating what's said on here doesn't make you knowledgable. Any jackass can regurgitate meaningless information....isn't that true HAN?

 

[newbie23]

To all you would-be doctors on here who think just because you saw someone not proficient in TRT that this somehow makes you more knowledgable then even the shittiest MD/DO about any aspect of medicine you're fucking delusional. You couldn't make it through a day with out killing someone and regurgitating what's said on here doesn't make you knowledgable. Any jackass can regurgitate meaningless information....isn't that true HAN?

I was ok with your post until this, cause now its obvious you have no clue about the TRT field in the real world.

its a crying shame how pathetic 90% of the doctors knowledge in regards to hormones are. There is a huge gap because most doctors are unhealthy fat asses themselves.

Even the best MD's are still going by the guidelines on a box of Watson CYP.....................

Trust me I know this to be true cause it is my job to show a lot of them how to implement TRT into there practice.

As far as the complete sentences - I don't have enough time in the day to worry what you think about my grammar.

 

[idmd]

I was ok with your post until this, because I have no clue about autism, but I will school any piece of paper you have ever seen on TRT............... and thats a fact.
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No...no it's not a fact. It's your misguided perception...but it's not a fact.

 

[newbie23]

No...no it's not a fact. It's your misguided perception...but it's not a fact.

Ive seen a million of you buddy, as a matter of fact I manage about 30 of you, Dr's that is........ so i know whats out there, i deal with it everyday.

 

[idmd]

Ive seen a million of you buddy, as a matter of fact I manage about 30 of you, Dr's that is........ so i know whats out there, i deal with it everyday.

All sorts of doctors with all sorts of abilities out there....now that IS a fact.

 

[newbie23]

your MD's are turning people away in their 40's if they score 4 points out of range, meanwhile the guy that came in at 295 gets his script.

Every day I hear another endocrinologist tell someone that estrogen is not important to them, that there is no reason to measure. I seem them do there testing on the patients, or as you put it guinea pigs. They switch and reverse the patients protocol many times trying to figure out how to get everything "inside the numbers"

I see them shouting prostate cancer to this day, I see them recommending supplements that "support prostate health"......... the kind of health that reduces your testosterone levels.

Everyday another doctor see's a patient complaining of LowT symptoms, I see them write there prescription for anti-dep

Everyday another doctor has a patient request to get his testosterone tested and the doctor draws bloods and does a cbc and lipid. 2 weeks later results come and no testosterone result in the labs.

all this happens cause they don't know there ass from a hole in the ground, or they are liable and too afraid to dip their toes in the water, due to there lack of education on the subject

I could go on and on, this is just a few stories of the 200 patients I dealt with in the last 7 days or so.

If you think for a second you got experience that trumps that cause you went to med school 10 years ago, think again.

 

[idmd]

your MD's are turning people away in their 40's if they score 4 points out of range, meanwhile the guy that came in at 295 gets his script.

Every day I hear another endocrinologist tell someone that estrogen is not important to them, that there is no reason to measure. I seem them do there testing on the patients, or as you put it guinea pigs. They switch and reverse the patients protocol many times trying to figure out how to get everything "inside the numbers"

I see them shouting prostate cancer to this day, I see them recommending supplements that "support prostate health"......... the kind of health that reduces your testosterone levels.

Everyday another doctor see's a patient complaining of LowT symptoms, I see them write there prescription for anti-dep

Everyday another doctor has a patient request to get his testosterone tested and the doctor draws bloods and does a cbc and lipid. 2 weeks later results come and no testosterone result in the labs.

all this happens cause they don't know there ass from a hole in the ground, or they are liable and too afraid to dip their toes in the water, due to there lack of education on the subject

I could go on and on, this is just a few stories of the 200 patients I dealt with in the last 7 days or so.

If you think for a second you got experience that trumps that cause you went to med school 10 years ago, think again.

I don't think nor would I ever claim to have any expertise in TRT. I can tell you even in my own personal quest some of what you said is true but some is not at all my experience. My current endo has made none of those mistakes.

Any perceived lack of knowledge regarding TRT simply comes down to this not being on doctor's radar YET except for the people who have carved out their niche for $$ reasons. Just because you meet doctor's not proficient in TRT hardly means they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Ever heard that saying YOU don't know what you don't know....

Anyway I could really give a fuck. While entertaining at times this strange little Internet place doesn't really mean shit to me so I'm dumping you for Deadliest Catch.

Later!

 

[newbie23]

blah blah blah, I'm sure i could find some mistakes he has made

If its not on the Dr's radar then they should have that little piece of paper taken away from them, there are some serious consequences for men with low testosterone, heart attacks, diabetes etc etc

you can't blame anyone else for it not being on there radar but them, even more important if something like low-t can go hidden from that doctors "radar" I'm afraid to know what else he is missing................

 

[idmd]

blah blah blah, I'm sure i could find some mistakes he has made

If its not on the Dr's radar then they should have that little piece of paper taken away from them, there are some serious consequences for men with low testosterone, heart attacks, diabetes etc etc

you can't blame anyone else for it not being on there radar but them, even more important if something like low-t can go hidden from that doctors "radar" I'm afraid to know what else he is missing................

I'm glad you know everything about everything. I don't.....it's a rare gift to be omnipotent. Perhaps your skills should be shared beyond TRT. How about critical care? I'm sure you could teach those hack hospitalists a thing or two. You know they always make the wrong choice at that moment when the 33 year old mother of three decides to code. And what about cardiology? They all seem like they learned everything they know from reading the back of a cereal box. How about nephrology? Do you know everything about nephrology too? Could you share with us your incredible insights on nephrotic syndrome or nephritic syndrome? Do you know the difference before searching Wikipedia? Or how about any ground breaking insights on any of the thousands of diseases treated every day by those people who don't know their ass from their elbow. Because every single hack MD you think you know more than learned that shit along with 1 billion other things and you'll never have the appreciation of the human body or medicine that they do....hack.

 

[newbie23]

I'm glad you know everything about everything. I don't.....it's a rare gift to be omnipotent. Perhaps your skills should be shared beyond TRT. How about critical care? I'm sure you could teach those hack hospitalists a thing or two. You know they always make the wrong choice at that moment when the 33 year old mother of three decides to code. And what about cardiology? They all seem like they learned everything they know from reading the back of a cereal box. How about nephrology? Do you know everything about nephrology too? Could you share with us your incredible insights on nephrotic syndrome or nephritic syndrome? Do you know the difference before searching Wikipedia? Or how about any ground breaking insights on any of the thousands of diseases treated every day by those people who don't know their ass from their elbow. Because every single hack MD you think you know more than learned that shit along with 1 billion other things and you'll never have the appreciation of the human body or medicine that they do....hack.

All I'm saying is 90% of the doctors out there don't know there ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to TRT........ thats a fact.

Maybe its all stems to charles huggins study in 1938 or the fact that for 70 years your MD's were cutting off the balls of any patient that had high PSA.

It really doesn't matter why, the point is that is the situation we are in.

I would never try to tell you about your critical care or anything this else cause I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to that.

You are the one that said even a half wit MD has more knowledge about TRT than anyone here......... all I did was tell you your wrong about that.

Im not here to say I know everything, as a matter of fact a couple post's back i clearly said I didn't. What I do know is the TRT field and its painfully obvious you do not

 

[idmd]

All I'm saying is 90% of the doctors out there don't know there ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to TRT........ thats a fact.

Maybe its all stems to charles huggins study in 1938 or the fact that for 70 years your MD's were cutting off the balls of any patient that had high PSA.

It really doesn't matter why, the point is that is the situation we are in.

I would never try to tell you about your critical care or anything this else cause I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to that.

You are the one that said even a half wit MD has more knowledge about TRT than anyone here......... all I did was tell you your wrong about that.

Im not here to say I know everything, as a matter of fact a couple post's back i clearly said I didn't. What I do know is the TRT field.

So look up my thread titled "My Introduction". There's three sets of labs as well as a detailed description of my physical exam and history. What's your diagnosis for me? What's the underlying pathophysiology? What's your recommendation for treatment?

Not busting balls...just trusting your bravado. Make me better!

 

[newbie23]

I will look paste the link.

another thing I wanted to touch on was the gross uneducation on nutrition by those same MD's, a lot of them can't control their own diet, let alone consult someone else. Most of them are over weight with a high BMI themselves, because they are on the run busy with patients and eat shitty food.

The FDA is a mob that restricts healthy preventative medicine, in fear of losing there country club membership cause they won't be able to prescribe lipitor anymore................ I could do this all day, if you can't figure out that the medical industry in our country is trashed..............well then.

everything needs to be changed, we need to teach doctors about exercise and nutrition, we need to teach students in school about diet and the importance of what they are putting in their bodies that has lead to this massive increase in falling testosterone levels. We are waaaaaay behind........the obesity epidemic alone proves the lack of education in the medical field............ doctors don't have time to educate there patients about this stuff, there are too many patients. A need has formed whether you like it or not

a niche need for people that can help the doctors get the proper care to there patients.

 

[hardasnails1973]

When medical professionals refer cases out to me. It is not me trolling the.medical community. Its other medical professionals speaking on my behave in the response they have seen in their patients. Cases are under medical supervision who sign off on them. Not from.some chiropractor or.other "Dr" but a licensed.medical professional. Dr Shippen the guy who.wrote the book.on trt has nothing but positve things to say of approach.being used. If.needed a could get recommendation letters written by.multiple.medical professionals who have told.me they.be glad.to. Having multiple medical professionals support behind some one speaks highly.

 

[idmd]

I will look paste the link.

another thing I wanted to touch on was the gross uneducation on nutrition by those same MD's, a lot of them can't control their own diet, let alone consult someone else. Most of them are over weight with a high BMI themselves, because they are on the run busy with patients and eat shitty food.

The FDA is a mob that restricts healthy preventative medicine, in fear of losing there country club membership cause they won't be able to prescribe lipitor anymore................ I could do this all day, if you can't figure out that the medical industry in our country is trashed..............well then.

everything needs to be changed, we need to teach doctors about exercise and nutrition, we need to teach students in school about diet and the importance of what they are putting in their bodies that has lead to this massive increase in falling testosterone levels. We are waaaaaay behind........the obesity epidemic alone proves the lack of education in the medical field............ doctors don't have time to educate there patients about this stuff, there are too many patients. A need has formed whether you like it or not

a niche need for people that can help the doctors get the proper care to there patients.

On my phone so I don't know how to copy the link...check the forum I just bumped it.

 

[coolcat20]

I could go on and on, this is just a few stories of the 200 patients I dealt with in the last 7 days or so.

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