GearGodess
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Awe muffin!! I still love you!
You're one sexy beast!
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Ryno1980
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Mind if I ask what he suggested? I ran accutane during my cruise but only for 30 days.... may have just been coincidence but I started having gut aches and water shits.... looked up rare side effects and krone desease and stomach ulcers were on there so I panicked and stopped....
First get an antibacterial soap. Gold dial is in order. No lotions no creams
Second he recomended Miinocin.
There was a couple other steps before accutane which he considers the harshest
I was able to find Miinocin but it wasnt cheap and has to be run indefinitely and considering we run AAS it will definitely be continious
Ryno1980
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Thank you sir
I'm just a wee little boy.... you fucker.. haha, I'm not in the boy club yet. Just taking my training wheels off.Just sayin, dunno how TNE is supposed to grow with this measly cycle.
What's a textbook for... someone had to experiment one way to ever write it down.
For one time I've seen us disagree. This cycle seems quite mild to me. I'm not after 10lbs. I can do that naturally. IF i was to hit my stage weight goal.. that would be nearly a 35-36lbs of muscle increase. Some people have to face It. "Things" start happening when your dosages go over 1g, 2g - etc. I'm not relying heavily on gear at all. I'm more relying on my 100 dollar food bill a week along with the correct mindset and hope of genetics to get me where I need to be.
You're right. This was simply me being irrespoible. Prop would be a much better option. But when it comes to the scale, I don't care about it at all. It's just the tiniest guideline. I'm more of a mirror and feel.
No, maybe over 3 years going steady I could do this. Trucker, 210lbs on my frame is hard. That's the point. If I'm ever getting anywhere, I don't have time to "run less - take longer" - call it a short cut or risk, or whatever you please. I have time to "run more - run longer"
Of course it's a risk. But getting in your car every morning for work is a risk as well.
Well hello! Thank you, I hope it stands true to the saying. I can honestly say "in the most humble way" - I do have superior genetics. Not in some cocky way, it doesn't make me a bad ass or anything. But in MY head I feel running weak cycles "trying" for something is absolute bullshit to do to myself. That's talent only given half the fuel needed. Enjoy the ride. You know, i may just go to 2g for truks sake.
You're correct. I have studied of correlations making this occur.. but good news guys. I have found a way to actually control it. I like to gain a bit of "dirty" weight by not running my AI at first.. literally just to hold more water. But I quit doing this, I dosed my AI higher going into my show, and have kept it very low even cruising and acne is 85% better. I do appreciate the info.
To sum up my first reply
You all will be entertained.
Training program is indeed : JM Sentinel
My thoughts on this: I believe I have superior genetics. Call it erogant or just hear me out. I do. At 128lbs and 5"11 I had a chest, shoulders, and my clavicle is long. My waist came to a 26.5" and I had room to cut more. My chest Grows wide and thick, my abs are sumstircal, my back grows well and thick just wish I had lower insertions.. same with calfs, damn short muscles. But you'll see an improvement throughout everywhere this year. I just know I'm at an advantage, simply because genetics. An old guy told me at my gym one day during prep. He stopped me and mentioned how he was a bodybuilder and his buddies all back in the day. He said remember this:
"Anyone can Weigh 220lbs and be ripped on stage. But the structure I see you carrying that weight with can't be done with dieting or training, that's genetics" Since that day, I've had a drive like no other. Maybe he's senile, maybe he's full of shit. But I am gonna ride that wave, and if it works, it works.
I think there's some over reaction of dosage #
But I do greatly appreciate the input. Rather if it's what I want to hear or not, throw it at me.
GearGodess
Member
I'm just a wee little boy.... you fucker.. haha, I'm not in the boy club yet. Just taking my training wheels off.
What's a textbook for... someone had to experiment one way to ever write it down.
For one time I've seen us disagree. This cycle seems quite mild to me. I'm not after 10lbs. I can do that naturally. IF i was to hit my stage weight goal.. that would be nearly a 35-36lbs of muscle increase. Some people have to face It. "Things" start happening when your dosages go over 1g, 2g - etc. I'm not relying heavily on gear at all. I'm more relying on my 100 dollar food bill a week along with the correct mindset and hope of genetics to get me where I need to be.
You're right. This was simply me being irrespoible. Prop would be a much better option. But when it comes to the scale, I don't care about it at all. It's just the tiniest guideline. I'm more of a mirror and feel.
No, maybe over 3 years going steady I could do this. Trucker, 210lbs on my frame is hard. That's the point. If I'm ever getting anywhere, I don't have time to "run less - take longer" - call it a short cut or risk, or whatever you please. I have time to "run more - run longer"
Of course it's a risk. But getting in your car every morning for work is a risk as well.
Well hello! Thank you, I hope it stands true to the saying. I can honestly say "in the most humble way" - I do have superior genetics. Not in some cocky way, it doesn't make me a bad ass or anything. But in MY head I feel running weak cycles "trying" for something is absolute bullshit to do to myself. That's talent only given half the fuel needed. Enjoy the ride. You know, i may just go to 2g for truks sake.
You're correct. I have studied of correlations making this occur.. but good news guys. I have found a way to actually control it. I like to gain a bit of "dirty" weight by not running my AI at first.. literally just to hold more water. But I quit doing this, I dosed my AI higher going into my show, and have kept it very low even cruising and acne is 85% better. I do appreciate the info.
To sum up my first reply
You all will be entertained.
Training program is indeed : JM Sentinel
My thoughts on this: I believe I have superior genetics. Call it erogant or just hear me out. I do. At 128lbs and 5"11 I had a chest, shoulders, and my clavicle is long. My waist came to a 26.5" and I had room to cut more. My chest Grows wide and thick, my abs are sumstircal, my back grows well and thick just wish I had lower insertions.. same with calfs, damn short muscles. But you'll see an improvement throughout everywhere this year. I just know I'm at an advantage, simply because genetics. An old guy told me at my gym one day during prep. He stopped me and mentioned how he was a bodybuilder and his buddies all back in the day. He said remember this:
"Anyone can Weigh 220lbs and be ripped on stage. But the structure I see you carrying that weight with can't be done with dieting or training, that's genetics" Since that day, I've had a drive like no other. Maybe he's senile, maybe he's full of shit. But I am gonna ride that wave, and if it works, it works.
I think there's some over reaction of dosage #
But I do greatly appreciate the input. Rather if it's what I want to hear or not, throw it at me.
I'm happy to see the pure desire and drive, it's refreshing! I don't think you had that level last time we spoke. You had some uncertainty. But I agree, I've seen you progress and make amazing gains and there is of course room for improvement and there always will be. You are young, you have a lot of time still and I think you will bring an overall better package by next show. BUT there are also many others coming up as well and you are prepared to make it your life. So you got my support 1,000%. So whatever you choose to do for your cycles, just be smart and listen to your body and I know WP will take care of you as we clearly seen that he knows what he's doing and is a perfect fit for you. xo
Do what makes you happy darling, and I know this is your passion from day 1!
Question, are you using Aromasin?
Better package by next show, absolutely. I shock myself with the idea of the added muscle. I'll always be smart with my decisions, well, kind of smart. I trust WP entirely, this is my passion, and I'm typing this with a smirk on my face so I'm on the right page!
- aromasin was being used, switching to adex
You will be as safe as possible throughout this process. I've made so many mistakes, and seen so many, that we can catch most issues before they become problematic. Now, we just need to get rid of your fear of pinning a bit more!
GearGodess
Member
HAHA perfect!
And I personally would recommend you stay with Aromasin. What I have found, and this is more than one or two guys, all hardcore Accutane users in the past because their acne was so bad and all use gear, have switched over to aromasin and it kept all acne away. Now, they never run a cycle without it. Their skin is amazing!
GG, any idea what the conversion rate of adex to aromasin might be? For example, for 1g test a week, I normally need about 1mg adex EoD... Any way to correlate that?HAHA perfect!
And I personally would recommend you stay with Aromasin. What I have found, and this is more than one or two guys, all hardcore Accutane users in the past because their acne was so bad and all use gear, have switched over to aromasin and it kept all acne away. Now, they never run a cycle without it. Their skin is amazing!
GearGodess
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1mg adex is equivalent to 25mg of aromasin, if I remember correctly. Will need to double check my notes. But I'm 99% sure that's right.
If he takes 12.5mg ED or starts off with EOD, that may be just enough.
That'll get PRICEY.... Aroma is so expensive in comparison.
I've always heard 1mg dex to be 25mg aromasin....damn wunder..."go with adex bro, it's all I use" *buys adex.. "we need aromasin"
I have both laying around. Quite a bit of both honestly. I'll experiment, we have time.
GearGodess
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yes but cheaper than Accutane AND adex and much better payout in the long run. Kill both birds with one stone type of a thing.
It's up to you boys, I was just making a suggestion based on what worked for my boys with the acne issue. I don't know if adex would do the job but who knows. It may work well for TNE.
No I'm just curious lol. I have adex always, and I plan to use it as it's never failed me! I'm curious about aromasin tho.I've always heard 1mg dex to be 25mg aromasin....damn wunder..."go with adex bro, it's all I use" *buys adex.. "we need aromasin"
I have both laying around. Quite a bit of both honestly. I'll experiment, we have time.
GearGodess
Member
I've always heard 1mg dex to be 25mg aromasin....damn wunder..."go with adex bro, it's all I use" *buys adex.. "we need aromasin"
I have both laying around. Quite a bit of both honestly. I'll experiment, we have time.
Sorry... oooopsy... just trying to be helpful
That has not been my experience
I did a 3g cycle as my last. i was quite candid with my experience and it honestly didnt do anything more than a gram would do for size or new muscle growth. It did however set me on the fast track for STRENGTH. The kind of strength that threatens tendons and tears muscles, ya know? From what i know of you and your training you do zero strength stuff. So if your experience will be the same as mine i suspect you will see this too.
Im convinced muscle growth takes time. Lots and lots of time. Take away the literal 1% of pro level genetics and the rest of us are going to have to take our time. If you or i had these genetics we wouldnt need this forum, we wouldnt need sound nutrition, we wouldnt need scientific workouts, we wouldnt need much of anything. Arnold won his first mr. O as a fucking teen and there was close to ZERO knowledge of anything BB related back then and even less on anabolics. Lee Priest won mr australia at 17 bro. How freakin much could they of known? Not much. Thats genetics. And thats exactly why itll take years for US to get there. Its more of a precautionary warning against fighting the tide. Yes it can be achieved. But time. Time. Time. Time
I learned this lesson on my cruises. I cruised at 500mg for a yr straight then developed a fucking heart murmor. It seems to have gone away now that i have a blood letting program in place and i take a baby aspirin ED now and track my BP daily on cycle. I had no preexisting issues. Zero, Zip. This shit is for real. I cruised at 350 now at 200 and im finding ways to get away with less. Thats TRAINING EXPERIENCE my friend. There are better ways to do it without crazy doses and im learning that as i go. In the end you realize hey...500mg is actually alot. Really it is. And now i can keep gaining off cycle too. Please listen to Mands, he knows what hes talking about. And the guy doesnt use much. It is possible
Little know fact, this is actually how @Thenewera and I met... He replied to my add! Now, look at us!
That's phucking gross..!!! I'm glad I got the habit of doing that
In all due respect whichever way you take it I don't consider myself in that category..So the you and I isn't needed. I don't consider needing a forum, I consider expanding my intelligence and finding other people with common goals and activities. Truk, 500mg is nothing compared to 1.5g. If you can begin to say 500mg will yield close to the same results with your "training experience" I would laugh. My training experience is high, I know quite a bit about training. I know quite a bit about dieting. You know what else? 3g of test for you could act the same as say 1g for someone else. But you already know this, this topic of the "sweet spot" or where to dot your line is an infinite argument and it's different between all. Again, I'm not coming at your throat, but we both know the argument that 500mg "is much more than you think!" When talking to someone with "training and diet" experience as high or higher than yours, with completely different genetics, who reacts to compounds completely differently, who's body may be able to pack on much more muscle at a faster rate than someone else's...? That makes your statement completely irrelevant and inaccurate. That's just my opinion..
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