Thinking about superdrol+test+tren

[johntt44]

Doesn't Sdrol worsens the way you feel?
And many people feel like shit on Tren already.

I was fine on superdrol until 4th week at 40mg day. I wont use it over 20mg any more. Same with tren. I'm on 300mg right now with no sides. At 700mg I get no appetite which I think leads to the lethargy. I still get no night sweats and sleep fine though.

 

[johntt44]

What is recommended to fight the elevated cortisol levels at end of superdrol?

I think tren lowers cortisol levels. I've read it numerous times.

 

[G0tgot]

Ok superdrol is serious enough on the liver , i dont drink alcahol very often, maybe 1 beer a month.

Looking into liver support i see many use pro liver. Is there a particular brand or anything else i should look into?

 

[Anonymous member 82305]

Ok superdrol is serious enough on the liver , i dont drink alcahol very often, maybe 1 beer a month.

Looking into liver support i see many use pro liver. Is there a particular brand or anything else i should look into?

Get Tudca. It has worked well for me and has studies on it.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Ok superdrol is serious enough on the liver , i dont drink alcahol very often, maybe 1 beer a month.

Looking into liver support i see many use pro liver. Is there a particular brand or anything else i should look into?

Unfortunetly, liver supplements are all hype. I would suggest you don't use them. Just do a search on this forum on liver supplements and you will see what I mean. Just as extra precautionary measures,, abstain from alcohol,, try to avoid both prescription and over the counter medications,, and drink lots of water

 

[chileandawg]

I'm doing 250 test, 300 tren right now. I'm adding 20mg a day superdrol in 2wks. Cant wait! I'm running low tren to keep my appetite. I'll be watching this thread and Ill.make one when I add the sdrol.

With 250 test ¿test-e? and that tren amount ¿How is your mood?

 

[Anonymous member 82305]

Unfortunetly, liver supplements are all hype. I would suggest you don't use them. Just do a search on this forum on liver supplements and you will see what I mean. Just as extra precautionary measures,, abstain from alcohol,, try to avoid both prescription and over the counter medications,, and drink lots of water

There are studies on Tudca/Udca. Of course these statements are only claims at the end of the day without providing evidence or studies. Funny how people will write off liver supplements but never provide any studies for support? Kind of a double standard if you ask me.. Not picking on you but just saying.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

There are studies on Tudca/Udca. Of course these statements are only claims at the end of the day without providing evidence or studies. Funny how people will write off liver supplements but never provide any studies for support? Kind of a double standard if you ask me.. Not picking on you but just saying.

Well,, try this experiment I am going to lay out for you. Buy enough superdrol from the same lab for two (exact same) cycles. For your first superdrol cycle for about 5 weeks,, do it without any liver supplements. Also avoid alcohol and non anabolic medications,, like tylenal, advil ect. Get your liver checked one week after your last dosage of superdrol. Be sure to write down your results. Abstain from oral steroids for about six months or so and do another 5 week cycle of superdrol at the same dosage as before. Be sure to take tudca before and during the cycle. Keep everything the same as last superdrol cycle. Get your liver checked one week after your last superdrol dose,, and compare your results with last cycle. You will very likely find that there are no changes in liver values. Maybe,, possibly your liver value might be a slight bit lower while on the tudca,, but really an insufficient amount to be investing a large amount of money in tudca for an oral cycle. It all comes down to trial and error

 

[Anonymous member 82305]

Given it was not “controlled in a lab setting with every variable the same”, I have had high liver values twice, before cycle, took orals and Tudca, and come 6 weeks later with blood panels the values decreased.. on orals.. Funny enough though I have seen members on this forum argue both that “controlled settings matter for variable” and “ you can’t control all the variables and they are mostly the same so it doesn’t matter”. Take it as you will but that’s proof to me considering I know I didn’t consume anymore or less water, change anything major or drastic, etc...

 

[Anonymous member 82305]

Not to mention on another thread I posted 4 or 5 studies with conclusive evidence stating Tudca helped the liver.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Given it was not “controlled in a lab setting with every variable the same”, I have had high liver values twice, before cycle, took orals and Tudca, and come 6 weeks later with blood panels the values decreased.. on orals.. Funny enough though I have seen members on this forum argue both that “controlled settings matter for variable” and “ you can’t control all the variables and they are mostly the same so it doesn’t matter”. Take it as you will but that’s proof to me considering I know I didn’t consume anymore or less water, change anything major or drastic, etc...

You mentioned above that you took orals with tudca. Did you ever take orals without tudca? If you did,,, did you also get your liver values checked?

 

[johntt44]

With 250 test ¿test-e? and that tren amount ¿How is your mood?

I'm running test cyp and tren ace. I feel exactly the same as I always do. I'm lucky, I tolerate tren very well. I ran it at 1400mg a wk for 3wks ate the end of a cycle. Didnt get nightsweats or insomnia. I did get the diminished cardio though.

 

[Anonymous member 82305]

You mentioned above that you took orals with tudca. Did you ever take orals without tudca? If you did,,, did you also get your liver values checked?

Kinda, years ago I cycled and for whatever reason I did not get bloods halfway through. Before the next cycle however when I got bloodwork, My AST was still elevated while ALT was not.

 

[master.on]

What is recommended to fight the elevated cortisol levels at end of superdrol?

First get cortisol bloodwork to prove it's actually high.

 

[88general88]

Npp is something new to me , i will do some studying on it and maybe try it next cycle since. i have some tren already and i totally d down the wife like 500% better with the tren and shes looking forwars to it. the sides do get kinda scary sometimes like shortness of breath. But i do appreciate the input , there is alot of experience and knowledge on these forums and do value all of it.

I hear you, didn’t mean to try and persuade you off the reservation. that’s funny your wife likes you better with the most powerful steroid in your body. Just a little advice brother. Don’t make that a reason to always run tren. It always seems like pussy is drawn to me on tren too. Maybe there is a pheromone that is release when we are in it that makes women wet.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I hear you, didn’t mean to try and persuade you off the reservation. that’s funny your wife likes you better with the most powerful steroid in your body. Just a little advice brother. Don’t make that a reason to always run tren. It always seems like pussy is drawn to me on tren too. Maybe there is a pheromone that is release when we are in it that makes women wet.

2nd 3rd pin on tren you know it's legit by pussys

 

[G0tgot]

Hahah gotta rate the tren by the pussy per day attraction ratio

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Kinda, years ago I cycled and for whatever reason I did not get bloods halfway through. Before the next cycle however when I got bloodwork, My AST was still elevated while ALT was not.

For a future cycle,, try an oral cycle without tudca or any other so called liver supplement. If your liver values are the same as the past cycles values while on tudca,, then you will know that tudca does not work. Where as if it does have a positive effect from previous past cycles,, then it will be in your best interest to use it in future oral cycles.