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Thoughts about some exercises?
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getswoll
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Dschingis said:
Dips and pullups are great exercises, especially when you progress to strapping on weight with a belt. I occasionally do some pullovers, don't think I ever do seated rows and do a few curls. It really all comes down to what type of program you are looking for and what your goals are. I powerlift, so doing curls ad nausium is fairly pointless for me. I do a few sets of heavy db curls and hammers, just to work on strength, but that is all. JS Rows are probably, if not the, most useful rowing exercise you can do.
GS
JS Rows kick ass for building back size and strength! Do a search for "js rows" and youll find at leat one or two threads detailing how to perform them along with some pictures.
Grizzly
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Dips are awesome! I usually do dips, chins and ab work in the mornings.
As stated, dips and chins are great. They of course have your body moving through space as you perform the exercise. This element will always make the exercise very effective, providing the stimulus is high enough.
Seated rows are decent, but don't compare to the JS row as mentioned. As for curls and pullovers, they only become necessary when a person's need to cure boredom outweighs the logical approach to exercise selection.
But as for the above exercise in the overall scheme of strength, they pale in comparison to the dead and squat.
Seated rows are decent, but don't compare to the JS row as mentioned. As for curls and pullovers, they only become necessary when a person's need to cure boredom outweighs the logical approach to exercise selection.
But as for the above exercise in the overall scheme of strength, they pale in comparison to the dead and squat.
Grizzly
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I'll give a third thumb's up to the JS Row. They just may be the best trap developer(oddly enough) out of anything. Maybe even better than the deadlift. Perhaps not better than the clean, though.
I was doing 3X3 today and my traps looked friggin' gigantic afterwards. I even impressed myself. LOL How it is that they work in this manner, I don't know, but I do know that the JS Row is great for your traps. And every other part of your back, for that matter.
I was doing 3X3 today and my traps looked friggin' gigantic afterwards. I even impressed myself. LOL How it is that they work in this manner, I don't know, but I do know that the JS Row is great for your traps. And every other part of your back, for that matter.
Beefster
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Girth said:
I have recently subscribed to this theory concerning cable flies. I know, I know, they are very ineffective, but feel good after a good workout while waiting to do another set of abs.
My core exercises are:
Oly Squats
JS Rows
Overhead Presses
Bench Press
Chins/pulldowns
Deads
Dips
Ramstein II
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All exercises can have "usefulness." Even curls (which take a beating around here) CAN be useful. For example, in wrestling isolated arm movement is often used. So, some wrestling strength programs include curls believe it or not. However, as a general rule for body building the basics rule the day.
These exercises I queston the utility of with the above caveat of course. I'm sure there is somebody somewhere that can justify these:
1. Pullovers--suck for the most part and strain the elbows if you use dumbells--this works everything in the upper body in general very indirectly and nothing in particular effectively--suck.
2. Machine flies--if you must fly, don't use the bent arm variety--use cables or don't fly at all--synergy.
3. Kickbacks or any single arm triceps extension variation, such as single handed reverse cable push downs--no explanation needed.
4. "Balance work" -- balance boards, swiss balls (except for ab work), stability platforms etc..--for $49.99 and 20 minutes you too can waste your time, break an ankle and gain no muscle or cardiovascular improvement. I'm very against this crap exept for people with nerve damage or have been in commas for a long time and need to learn how to stand again.
5. High rep calf work--if you do 15 sets of 10 for your chest and 3 sets of 35 for your calves, please don't tell me your calves won't grow.
6. Any single arm dumbell lift off the floor, such as single arm clean and jerk. Injury anyone? See pullover description above.
7. Forearm work.
8. Any cable exercise that "resembles real world activities," such as swinging an axe.
These exercises I queston the utility of with the above caveat of course. I'm sure there is somebody somewhere that can justify these:
1. Pullovers--suck for the most part and strain the elbows if you use dumbells--this works everything in the upper body in general very indirectly and nothing in particular effectively--suck.
2. Machine flies--if you must fly, don't use the bent arm variety--use cables or don't fly at all--synergy.
3. Kickbacks or any single arm triceps extension variation, such as single handed reverse cable push downs--no explanation needed.
4. "Balance work" -- balance boards, swiss balls (except for ab work), stability platforms etc..--for $49.99 and 20 minutes you too can waste your time, break an ankle and gain no muscle or cardiovascular improvement. I'm very against this crap exept for people with nerve damage or have been in commas for a long time and need to learn how to stand again.
5. High rep calf work--if you do 15 sets of 10 for your chest and 3 sets of 35 for your calves, please don't tell me your calves won't grow.
6. Any single arm dumbell lift off the floor, such as single arm clean and jerk. Injury anyone? See pullover description above.
7. Forearm work.
8. Any cable exercise that "resembles real world activities," such as swinging an axe.
