Thoughts on "new" superior labs

damn man, after reading the last couple of pages I'm pretty worried. About to run my first cycle and with this guys stuff. Everything that I had seen said the batches were hit or miss as far as dosages but now this. Im ordering a labmax tomorrow as i have more test than I actually need. i can't afford fuckups like this bc i just got done dealing with high e2
 
You probably saved your money, it looks like Superior might be heading downhill, unless he goes private and starts focusing on quality over quantity. Its a bummer when a lab gets too big and starts compromising their product for the sake of profit.

EDIT: There are better domestic UGLs IMO, I'd stay away from most of the SF sponsors though...


Also I have yet to see a bad review here on superior unless my search button doesn't work. You never got the chance to try his stuff and everywhere else the only complaint was it being under dosed. Can you point me in the direction of some new reviews that weren't good?
 
Are you saying you think the UGL is putting estrogen in his stuff? Gtfo... lol

No I don't believe he is at all and thats why I asked the member for more details, but it very well could be, as it has happened before. If he doesn't check all his raws and china accidently sends him estradiol instead it could happen, while it is very unlikely. Im thinking it was a lab error more than anything. I just done see how that high of estrogen could be possible.
None of these would raise E2 to a level of 1,200. I don't even think I have seen a false-positive from Tren bloods that had levels this high. Has anyone else?

Generally, the levels I see are around 600-800, and that is running tren at 600mg+ a week. I don't think 250mg/week would come close to that.
 
Also I have yet to see a bad review here on superior unless my search button doesn't work. You never got the chance to try his stuff and everywhere else the only complaint was it being under dosed. Can you point me in the direction of some new reviews that weren't good?
Reviews? No. HPLC? Yes. Look at Dr Jims HPLC thread in the Lab Testing forum. Superior's Test E came back as "traces of tren..." HOWEVER, my friend has been blastin n cruisin with Superior's Test E, and he swears by it. Once again, no bloods to back it up, so its all hearsay...
 
Reviews? No. HPLC? Yes. Look at Dr Jims HPLC thread in the Lab Testing forum. Superior's Test E came back as "traces of tren..." HOWEVER, my friend has been blastin n cruisin with Superior's Test E, and he swears by it. Once again, no bloods to back it up, so its all hearsay...
I gotcha, I saw that but I thought it was the tren that was the issue showing trace amounts or something like that. I think at this point with all the confusion I'm going to try and go the Rx route. I have insurance and have been diagnosed with hypogonadism albeit from a low t clinic. I Just need to find someone who will prescribe it for me rather than visiting a clinic every week.
 
FIRST) item any HPLC MUST include a calibration curve of the reference or "stock solution". This is very important bc this curve ensures as the substance becomes more concentrated as in mg/ml the HPLC PEAKS increase in size and/or width. And measuring the peaks surface area DETERMINES an AAS concentration.
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THIRD) Because "stock solutions" are the benchmark for which samples will be judged against, their PURITY must be as close to 99% as possible. Consequently defining how the stock solutions were derived is a perfectly legit question.
I guess they tested the product thinking it was tren because that was all they found in it? But I have an issue with this. For HPLC testing to be done correctly, there needs to be "stock solution" (pharma grade) to reference the calibration curve. If Test E was tested, but Tren was used as the "stock solution" for reference, wouldn't that negate all Testosterone Enanthate from the results? Correct me if I'm wrong, I am uneducated in these things.
 
Is this the same guy on safe mail am about to roll the dice I know I am new and getting a solid lead is hard I feel like I read a lot of good info but even when it's something I would try have no idea how to get to them off the name alone but just wondered if that was same ugl talked about in thread
 
Is this the same guy on safe mail am about to roll the dice I know I am new and getting a solid lead is hard I feel like I read a lot of good info but even when it's something I would try have no idea how to get to them off the name alone but just wondered if that was same ugl talked about in thread

Yep your rolling the dice for sure and I KNOW that bc your ready to make a purchase after only some 18 posts, NUTS!

You need to be much more patient and devote real time and effort into this venture.

Start by completing your Meso profile and develop some trust and rapport with others.

Think you skip those steps? Then your wasting your time and money fella guaranteed.
 
Didn't know I missed a bunch of stuff will go back and finish thank you for your help and you are very right way under educated on the matter and very frustrated at the gym did a healthy stretch inside , was easier to focus nothing else to do plus you didn't have to be the biggest to own yours you just had to be big enough and very willing
 
Well went back to look over profile don't see what I missed any info to take respective steps to be apart of instead apart from would be welcomed
 
For the last time I WAS NOT RUNNING TREN WHEN THE BLOOD WORK WAS DONE!!!!!!
and yes I have horrible gyno now and will need surgery.
Just in time for summer.
I've done my part in warning others, if you choose not to believe and rely instead on your bro science then happy bra hunting.
 
1mg ed of arimadex and 80mg ed of Nolvadex (from the pharmacy) and I still got gyno.
There was nothing I could do, I was completely helpless by the time I figured out what was happening.
 
I guess they tested the product thinking it was tren because that was all they found in it? But I have an issue with this. For HPLC testing to be done correctly, there needs to be "stock solution" (pharma grade) to reference the calibration curve. If Test E was tested, but Tren was used as the "stock solution" for reference, wouldn't that negate all Testosterone Enanthate from the results? Correct me if I'm wrong, I am uneducated in these things.

If the wrong standard is used during HPLC testing the peaks will NOT match.

However any reasonable investigator should have a good idea what the elution times are for the testing methods he is using and the samples being evaluated.

So although using the wrong stock solution could result in a FALSE NEGATIVE assay, this type of error is unlikely for those experienced in HPLC as an analytical assay.

See actually the stock solution run only needs to be conducted every so often bc thereafter that information is stored in the HPLCs computers data files, and a "button" is pushed whenever the peaks of a particular standard is needed.

This button pushed standard is then displayed in the background of the screen when a sample run is conducted.

Ok now once that sample run is conducted it to is stored in the computer and the computer will "look" for a match using the standards within a particular system.

That's why having as many stored standards as possible is optimal.

Of note one CAN NOT download HPLC standard data from the net bc they are SPECIFIC for the
COLUMN, HPLC device and methods (such as solvents for mobile or stationary phase) being utilized.

That means for accurate data ALL standards used to compare samples MUST have been run thru the column and the HPLC device at some point in REAL TIME, period!
 
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