So about this freeloading. You are doing an awful lot of demanding.
Where the fuck is your Anabolic Lab banner?
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Time for Anabolic lab to begin testing RAW POWDERS to revive interest?
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Where the fuck is your Anabolic Lab banner?
master.on
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If Anabolic labs begins testing raws I'll donate. I'm a man of word.
As I brew for myself, I previously had no interest in donating for something to appeared to favor just some UGLs.
Once again, an impurity does not mean dangerous. This is basic chemistry....
Ever heard of common sense?
You don't know the difference between purity and concentration, you don't know the difference between purity and contamination, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
It doesn't matter if the raw is impure or not bc if the final product is what matters in this regard. Your stupidity is literally unbound.
master.on
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No matter if dangerous or not everyone and me prefer a raw with little contaminants/impurities PLAIN FACT
Why do you think the FDA took a huge effort to rule USP pharmacopea specifications if impurities/contaminants didn't matter? Why?
Concentration is used for oils
Purity is used for raws
They are testing the strength of HPLC peak and translating that to concentration or purity
Point is because of overdosing/compensating testing a finished product gives little detail of impurities that a raw test can do. What's the problem with it
What's your VESTED interest in getting raws not tested?
When all funds will come from donations, not like Anaboliclab is spending their own funds?
Even @Millard Baker admitted AL donations hit an all time low
DedLift
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Just when i thought you couldn't say anything dumber you do something like this....AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!
The vested interest is to not waste donations on absolute pointless stupidity. Testing finished products is the most affective testing and will continue to be what is tested. Again you are demanding a hell of a lot for someone that hasn't donated a single dollar. You are a "pathetic freeloader", so go make some suggestions somewhere else. Chemtox testing is $130 per sample. Go test all the raws you want.
Not a plain fact. Just your simple and unsolicited opinion.
Read the following dipshit:
Purification, purity analysis, and impurity analysis are three areas that are vital for assuring future success in drug discovery and development by enabling greater productivity and compliance with evolving regulatory requirements. These challenges are shared by the generic drug industry and contract research and manufacturing organizations (CROs and CMOs), even though they do not develop NCEs, because they use similar practices and technologies. To meet the diverse requirements within all areas of the pharmaceutical industry, Agilent Technologies provides a wealth of effective solutions, from discovery to development and manufacturing.
The purification of synthesized compounds is one of the most recognized and challenging bottlenecks in drug discovery. Target compound purity is essential for the successful progression from hit to viable drug candidate with minimum rework. There has been a steady increase in the number of NCEs requiring purification before any biological assays are undertaken. This is primarily due to the fact that valuable resources are often wasted when impure compounds are submitted for screening, because they can result in false positives.
Furthermore, you should make note how the FDA EXPLICITLY states that impurities should be quantified and qualified whereas contaminants should be strictly avoided.
You're such an idiot you actually think you make sense. That makes me laugh lol.
Wrong. There's much more to this than that.
Point is, you still haven't made a point as to why you even should care. Point is, analytical testing for impurities which encompasses any one of hundreds or thousands of compounds is going to cost out the fucking ass. Point is an impurity is sy moos with dangerous. I could keep going but I'll stop with 3.
What's your vested interest in testing raws when most of what you need to know comes from testing finished product? Are you donating money to the cause that you're telling Millard he should spend TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MORE DOLLARS to test raw materials? How the fuck is Millard going to ANONYMOUSLY ask labs to send him raw powder when they don't sell powders only finished product?
#YourMotherShouldHaveSwallowed
I think this answers the question of what his vested interest is in having raws tested.
i honestly don't believe him. I think he's required to have adult supervision and wear a helmet with fire retardant clothing just to turn on the stove...
I was thinking easy bake oven. That may go over the younger kids heads referencing the easy bake though.
Not mine lol. I remember them well. My sister had one hahaha.
Masteron probably makes sure he's grounded and locks out the easy bake oven before attempting to "service" it
Bradly
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master.on
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I'll have to.
It's becoming to look that while anaboliclab itself may not have an agenda
their supporters and shill DO have it.
So you're saying that someone in his right mind would prefer a 50% pure powder over a 99% one? LMAO
So you're pretending that you know more than the United States Phamacopaeia (USP), the one the FDA bases their decision if a new med complies with the required standards? (fines+recalls cost pharma labs 6 or 7 figures)
They issued MONOGRAPHS to set minimum quality standards
they even set standard test methods to avoid someone pull a new testing procedure from their hat altering results.
Read this sample one, right from USP website:
http://www.usp.org/sites/default/files/usp_pdf/EN/USPNF/sample_monograph.pdf
Do you have a chemistry background? No you don't
read this on how read a pharmacopeia monograph
https://www.raci.org.au/document/item/2056
When you've learned something you can move on to a real steroid monograph.
For USP ones you have to pay
As an example of something you can find online:
European pharmacopeia which is sometimes a bit less stringent than USA USP
http://library.njucm.edu.cn/yaodian/ep/EP501E/16_monographs/19_monographs_q-z/testosterone/1373e.pdf
Content: 97.0 per cent to 103.0 per cent (dried substance).
TESTS
Specific optical rotation (2.2.7): + 106 to + 114 (dried
substance).
...
System suitability: the chromatogram obtained with
reference solution (a) shows 3 clearly separated spots;
impurity D Rf = about 0.5; testosterone Rf = about 0.65;
impurity F Rf = about 0.7.
Limits:
— impurity D: any spot due to impurity D is not more
intense than the spot in the chromatogram obtained with
reference solution (c) (0.2 per cent),
— impurity F: any spot due to impurity F is not more
intense than the spot in the chromatogram obtained with
reference solution (d) (0.1 per cent).
Related substances. Liquid chromatography (2.2.29).
Test solution. Dissolve 0.100 g of the substance to be
examined in methanol R and dilute to 10.0 ml with the same
solvent.
...
Limits: use the chromatogram obtained with reference
solution (a) to identify the peaks due to impurities C and I:
— correction factor: for the calculation of content, multiply
the peak area of impurity I by 2.9,
— impurity C: not more than the area of the principal peak
in the chromatogram obtained with reference solution (b)
(0.5 per cent),
— impurity I: not more than twice the area of the principal
peak in the chromatogram obtained with reference
solution (c) (0.2 per cent),
— impurities A, B, E, G, H, J: for each impurity, not more
than the area of the principal peak in the chromatogram
obtained with reference solution (c) (0.1 per cent),
— any other impurity: for each impurity, not more than the
area of the principal peak in the chromatogram obtained
with reference solution (c) (0.1 per cent),
— total: not more than 1.2 times the area of the principal
peak in the chromatogram obtained with reference
solution (b) (0.6 per cent),
— disregard limit: 0.5 times the area of the principal peak
in the chromatogram obtained with reference solution (c)
(0.05 per cent).
IMPURITIES Specified impurities: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J. A. R1 + R2 = R3 + R4 = O: androst-4-ene-3,17-dione (androstenedione), C. R1 + R2 = O, R3 = H, R4 = OH : 17α-hydroxyandrost-4- en-3-one (epitestosterone), D. R1 = R3 = OH, R2 = R4 = H : androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol (∆4-androstenediol), E. R1 + R2 = O, R3 = O-CO-CH3, R4 = H: 3-oxoandrost-4-en-17β-yl acetate (testosterone acetate), B. R = C2H5 : 3-ethoxyandrosta-3,5-dien-17-one (androstenedione ethylenolether), J. R = CH3 : 3-methoxyandrosta-3,5-dien-17-one (androstenedione methylenolether), F. 17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one (androstanolone, stanolone), G. R1 + R2 = O : androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione (androstadienedione). H. R1 = OH, R2 = H : 17β-hydroxyandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (boldenone), I. 17β-hydroxyandrosta-4,6-dien-3-one (∆6-testosterone).
SIMEC/CHEMTOX NEVER TESTED FOR THESE IMPURITIES
To approve a finished med the FDA requires a CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS OF THE RAW INGREDIENTS TOO
Reason why it's important to test raws to.
Only because I brew my own gear, as many do
Of course I'd like to see raws from the source I buy from tested (kept personal) and the specific steroids I prefer (Masteron Enanthate) as anyone would like
Other than that I don't have a specific request to begin testing raws, I'd leave source/steroid choice to anaboliclab.
Later I'm busy now
No I didn't say that. Nice Strawman idiot.
My cousin works for a pharmaceutical company and deals with the FDA regarding licensure, approvals, documentation, etc everyday. Are you pretending to know more than he does bc you make steroids in your easy bake oven. Laughing my ass off over here hahaba.
I never denied that they did alter their testing requirements moron.
I see you're speaking for yourself as I have a pretty heavy background with chemistry. Don't project your obvious shortcomings onto others
You're comparing the FDA and a pharmaceutical company to a fucking invert round lab. How stupid can you be and still be allowed internet access by mommy and daddy?
The FDA does everything in duplicate and triplicate. They need to know where an error occurred in the process to know how to correct it in the future. By certifying the raws, it allows them to narrow down the search for errors. The same exact information can be had by testif the final product but the drawback is that you don't know if it came from the raw material or if it was an error in a specific batch of final production. Knowing that they know whether to call back the every drug made from a specific batch of raw material or if they only need to call back a specific production run and not the whole batch.
No UGL is going to ever do this. Anabolic lab doesn't have the funds to test raws AND final product bc cheap assholes like yourself only will donate if there is something in it for them. Other members who actually add to the community donate regardless if they receive something or not.
With funding as it is, the only thing that matters to anabolic lab is the final product. Once again, any impurity that's found testing the raws can be found by testing the final product.
Jesus Christ. If I were as stupid and oblivious to it as you are, I'd fuckimg hang myself. Please do the world a favor and don't have kids. We need to end your genetic lineage before your stupidity spreads.
Lol. Classic.No I didn't say that. Nice Strawman idiot.
My cousin works for a pharmaceutical company and deals with the FDA regarding licensure, approvals, documentation, etc everyday. Are you pretending to know more than he does bc you make steroids in your easy bake oven. Laughing my ass off over here hahaba.
I never denied that they did alter their testing requirements moron.
I see you're speaking for yourself as I have a pretty heavy background with chemistry. Don't project your obvious shortcomings onto others
You're comparing the FDA and a pharmaceutical company to a fucking invert round lab. How stupid can you be and still be allowed internet access by mommy and daddy?
The FDA does everything in duplicate and triplicate. They need to know where an error occurred in the process to know how to correct it in the future. By certifying the raws, it allows them to narrow down the search for errors. The same exact information can be had by testif the final product but the drawback is that you don't know if it came from the raw material or if it was an error in a specific batch of final production. Knowing that they know whether to call back the every drug made from a specific batch of raw material or if they only need to call back a specific production run and not the whole batch.
No UGL is going to ever do this. Anabolic lab doesn't have the funds to test raws AND final product bc cheap assholes like yourself only will donate if there is something in it for them. Other members who actually add to the community donate regardless if they receive something or not.
With funding as it is, the only thing that matters to anabolic lab is the final product. Once again, any impurity that's found testing the raws can be found by testing the final product.
Jesus Christ. If I were as stupid and oblivious to it as you are, I'd fuckimg hang myself. Please do the world a favor and don't have kids. We need to end your genetic lineage before your stupidity spreads.
I hope Master.on's caretaker strangles him with a shoelace... Or, maybe he trips and falls in the shower... Ooooh, I also like to imagine him dying in a grease fire...
So many choices, all with favorable outcomes for humanity as a whole. Until then, it is our duty as good Meso members to continue to follow his posts up with rebuttals and refute everything he says, as he is a danger to our community.
@Docd187123 , regarding impurities... Can you imagine how many "impurities" must've been within Master.on's mom's uterus? Fuck man, to think out of one hundred million or so sperm from his worthless father's cock... To imagine Master.on was the fastest of them all really shows what genetic "lottery" we're dealing with here.
So many choices, all with favorable outcomes for humanity as a whole. Until then, it is our duty as good Meso members to continue to follow his posts up with rebuttals and refute everything he says, as he is a danger to our community.
@Docd187123 , regarding impurities... Can you imagine how many "impurities" must've been within Master.on's mom's uterus? Fuck man, to think out of one hundred million or so sperm from his worthless father's cock... To imagine Master.on was the fastest of them all really shows what genetic "lottery" we're dealing with here.
Even statistics acknowledges the fact that sometimes the least favored and least likely outcome is bound to happen eventually....
"least favored" is an understatement.
That was my politically correct personality. I'm still waiting for one of the more angry ones to come front and center.
Billy? Don't let Billy out, I can't handle him today....
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