Time to say hi

[jenson24]

Hey all,

I've been wandering this place for way too long without a proper introduction.

32 yo based in EU. I started playing with the real shit last january so I'm kind of a newbie here. Journey has been good so far, probably because of all the harm reduction and things I learnt here, so thank you.

See you around

 

[Elektrobot]

Hey all,

I've been wandering this place for way too long without a proper introduction.

32 yo based in EU. I started playing with the real shit last january so I'm kind of a newbie here. Journey has been good so far, probably because of all the harm reduction and things I learnt here, so thank you.

See you around

Tell us about your training

 

[jenson24]

Well my training is far from point. I can say diet is on point but training has not been any good for the last few years due to a permanent injury. Thats part of the reason Im here. So no DL/squat/heavy bench for me

Anyway I try to stay on the healthy side of things. I don't need massive amounts of anything when I can't even train properly. So far all my health markers have improved and my body aswell

 

[IndividualMan]

hieght/weight/ substance list please.

Diet, health markers, training and all that other stuff (not really what drives progress, amirite fellas?) would be nice too

 

[jenson24]

175 cm (more like 173 after injury) / 5'8
75 kg / 165 lbs

Did 300mg at the beginning of this year but had to cut it short. Trt (self made) from there at 150mg and recently I upped to 225mg. Always test E.

Bloodwork shows 2500 total test at 225mg/w which I understand is quite high. E2 is around 65. I'm not sure if that's too high but I'm beginning to feel something's not right with that.

HDL 65
LDL 90
BP sits around 135/75 could be better, but I think that's sustainable long term right?

Training is not on point at all, and hence the "low" amounts of gear. I can't physically do any kind of heavy lifting so I just try to progressively overload the few machines and exercises I'm able to do.
Split PPL and trying to do 4 days/week plus another day of just walking/low intensity.

I'm finishing a cut on 2000 calories and thinking about starting a very clean and slow bulk. Maybe I'd add another substance to help keep that E2 on track and up the calories to 2700 or so.

I was thinking bold and change from finas to dutas. That's got to have an effect on free test and E2, so I will need to manage that somehow. Have AI on hand just in case.

 

[Elektrobot]

So no DL/squat/heavy bench for me

Don't even need them dude. What are some movements you've been able to replace these with?

175 cm (more like 173 after injury)

Doctors hate that one trick

Did 300mg at the beginning of this year but had to cut it short.

Why are we doing this if our training isn't on point

Bloodwork shows 2500 total test at 225mg

..... again....... why

Tell us what other bloodwork you are doing

BP sits around 135/75 could be better, but I think that's sustainable long term right?

No. Get it under 120/70... like 110/60 would be good. High blood pressure is the express lane to problems. Not just for your heart, it damages other organs as well. What do you think is driving your blood pressure up? What bloodwork are you doing?

Training is not on point at all, and hence the "low" amounts of gear.

You've ran you test up to 2,500..... thats not low. It doesn't match your training demands.

I'm finishing a cut on 2000 calories

You are 5'8, 165 pounds, and you think a cut is 2000 calories? What did you use to calculate this?

thinking about starting a very clean and slow bulk

again..............why? The training you are doing right now does not demand that

Maybe I'd add another substance to help keep that E2 on track and up the calories to 2700 or so.

...............................again.............................why? Drop your test, that will fix your E2, and don't overeat thinking it will get you big. Match your food to your training. If your training is limited right now, it does not warrant this surplus.

I was thinking bold

.............................for what fkn reason. What part of your training demands the addition of boldenone?

That's got to have an effect on free test and E2, so I will need to manage that somehow. Have AI on hand just in case.

Dude just drop your test, fix your blood pressure, learn about proper training nutrition, and find a training program that works around the injuries you have.

 

[jenson24]

Don't even need them dude. What are some movements you've been able to replace these with?

Back day is pretty standard, haven't changed much.
Chest day, I have to avoid any kind of overhead press and I find it hard to train shoulder without pain, but it's acceptable.
Leg day, I'm limited to quad extension, leg curl machine, calf extensions, abduction and addiction. One leg at a time. Lately im bringing back leg presses with one leg as well.

Plus core movements, stretching... It's not that bad after all but it's very difficult to train to failure.

Why are we doing this if our training isn't on point


..... again....... why

Tell us what other bloodwork you are doing


No.

Because it's never gonna be on point. Some things are broken and cannot be fixed. I know what a hard day at the gym feels like and I can't even try to get close to that.

And it had to start somewhere, so I figured 300 would be better than the standard 500. From there I tapered down, but it was a nice first touch, honestly.

No. Get it under 120/70... like 110/60 would be good. High blood pressure is the express lane to problems. Not just for your heart, it damages other organs as well. What do you think is driving your blood pressure up? What bloodwork are you doing?

Copy, chief. High BP runs in the family so I wasn't scared by those numbers. I will be adding more cardio and maybe more fiber to counter that.

What do you mean? What bloodwork should I be doing? Liver panel came back good, ALT and AST in check. Lipids were the best they have been in my life. Hematocrit is up from 38-40 natty to 45 (on trt) to 47 (on 225mg). I should keep and eye on that.

You've ran you test up to 2,500..... thats not low. It doesn't match your training demands.

This is something I wanted to ask here. Seems like a high response to a "low" dose? I'm not familiar with these levels.

You are 5'8, 165 pounds, and you think a cut is 2000 calories? What did you use to calculate this?

Online calculator + slowly cutting from 83 to 73kg, so around 22 pounds. Rate has slowed down now that I'm leaner. I'm focusing on micro nutrients lately.

again..............why? The training you are doing right now does not demand that

...............................again.............................why? Drop your test, that will fix your E2, and don't overeat thinking it will get you big. Match your food to your training. If your training is limited right now, it does not warrant this surplus.

I am able to build muscle if I bulk. I did it before and should be easier on gear. My training may not be on point but training is training. That 2700 number was some random number I came up with, what I would do is find maintenance and up the calories slowly. I am not in a hurry and don't need to get Big.

........................for what fkn reason. What part of your training demands the addition of boldenone?

Dude just drop your test, fix your blood pressure, learn about proper training nutrition, and find a training program that works around the injuries you have.

You are probably right. Nothing demands the addition of nothing. It's just me discovering a new world.
I feel better on test, I sleep better, I rest better, I work better, I look better. I don't need to be a 250 pounds guy, I'm just for the quality of life. That's why I'm trying to find a sweet spot between health/test/E2.


Thanks