Hogg
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Phreezer said:
I think you are correct phreezer....that seems to fit my memory better.
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I think you are correct phreezer....that seems to fit my memory better.
Hogg
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ren said:
There could be, as long as they didnt alter the past when they observed it....I'll give you a scenario, whenever you test something and alter the state of the variable by testing, then it is something you cannot truly test. I believe such is the case when trying to determine the state of a quark and it continues to elude researchers. They have found the many states up, down, charmed, whatever.....over and over again but they cannot determine the state a quark is in without altering its state....thus, for now, leaving them to use probability calculations. It is sort of like being able to look into the fish tank without altering the fish behavior.....if they see you, they will change their activities, if they do not see you, they will continue on some other path.
Desibaba
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Do you guys remember the movie the butterfly effect??? And also Timecop? The theory is that whenever you try to change the past the future changes dramatically as well.What about the movie the released about a year ago with guy pearce(the time machine)?
This guy seems to think that not only is it possible, but einstein's theories can be used to prove it, and that government research has already been done that shows that travel into the future is possible and has happened. Crazy stuff.
www.iit.edu/~bosabri/time.html
www.iit.edu/~bosabri/time.html
dolfe1
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Desibaba said:
Something for everyone to think about: Time travel and traveling into the past can be two different things. I will post my thoughts later.
Grizzly
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Hogg said:This is some heavy shit......anybody want to drop some acid and fire up a Bob Dylan album???
I suppose I could do the Dylan, but I can DEFINITELY do the acid. LOL
I couldn't really focus on all of that because I'm talking to Freddy via AIM, but let me try and reply anyway.
Could one say that the lives of the past are scripted up until the introduction of the new variable(the time traveler)?
For instance, I know that on such and such a date, I did such and such. Well, that's set in stone. However, if a dude were to go back in time and I met him, then the future of the past would change and not be scripted. However, the rest of it still is. Yes?
dolfe1
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Primo Max said:
I read the first paragraph and will read the rest later, he seems to be on the right track although a believe power sources are irrelevant, propulsion is not the answer and it is impossible to travel at the speed of light.
Desibaba
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Pretty cool.I decided to copy/paste this here.Thats to the meso bro for the link.
Brian's Views on Time Travel
and Interdimensional Voyages
Links2Go Award Winning Site
Time Travel
Time travel is no longer regarded as strictly science fiction. For years the concept of time travel has been the topic of science fiction novels and movies, and has been pondered by great scientists throughout history. Einsteins theories of general and special relativity can be used to actually prove that time travel is possible. Government research experiments have yielded experimental data that conclusively illustrate that fast moving aircraft have traveled into the future. This phenomenon is due to the principal of time dilation, which states that bodies moving at high velocities experience a time that ticks slower than the time measured at zero velocity.3 Not as much time elapses for a moving body as does for everything else. Phenomena known as wormholes and closed timelike curves are possible means of time travel into the future and the past.4 Traveling into the past is a task which is much more difficult than traveling into the future. This feat has not yet been accomplished -to our knowledge- and its theory involves complicated scenarios of tears in four dimensional space-time, and traveling near the speed of light. Obstacles which prevent our hubris attempts to cheat time include our inability to move even close to the speed of light, and finding a source of energy as powerful as an exploding star. Simply because the proposal of time travel is backed by scientific theory, is no reason to expect that it is easily achievable. Numerous arguments are proposed that that prevent time travel into the past. Both common sense and scientific fact can be used to paint scenarios that become serious obstacles. Not to fear, we have all the time in the world to overcome these minor limitations.
Imagine if you will, that you are one of the people sill alive today that was born prior to 1903, when the first airplane took flight. When you were young the idea of flying would probably have been quite exciting. Some scientists believe that we may presently be living through an identical scenario. The thing that would be so exciting however, would not be flight, but time travel. Leading scientists believe that our children will live to once again see the impossible become routine. Professor Michio Kaku of the University of New York believes that space flight may one day unlock the secret of time itself. This will require the development of spacecraft that can travel at speeds on the order of two hundred million meters per second, thats about four hundred and fifty million miles per hour. Craft traveling at this speed will take us near the speed of light, where time actually slows down. This is whats known as time dilation. Einsteins theories predict that the faster a spacecraft moves, the slower time ticks inside of it. Imagine that a rocket ship takes off from earth and approaches the speed of light. If we were to watch it from earth with a very powerful telescope as it traveled away from us, we would see everyone inside the ship as being frozen in time. To us their time would slow down, but to them nothing would change! This has been measured in the laboratory and on location using atomic clocks, aircraft, satellites and rockets. It is proven that time slows down the faster you move. In 1975 Professor Carol Allie of the University of Maryland tested Einsteins theory using two synchronized atomic clocks. One clock was loaded on a plane and flown for several hours, while the other clock remained on the ground at the air base. Upon return, the clock on board the plane was found to be ever so slightly slower that the one on the ground. This was not due to experimental error, and has been repeated numerous times with the same result. This difference in time is even more pronounced in satellites such as the space station. This is because these objects are traveling at speeds much faster and for much longer periods than possible in an airplane. The faster an object moves, the more time is distorted.
Now that we know that it is possible to travel into the future by moving at great speeds, the next problem is how to travel in time a respectable amount without having to sit in a fast moving spaceship for years. This problem is solved by the theoretical existence of what are know as closed timelike curves, and wormholes.
Einsteins special and general theories of relativity combine three-dimensional space with time to form four dimensional space-time.2 Space-time consists of points or events that represent a particular place at a particular time. Your entire life thus forms a sort of twisting, turning worm in space time! The tip of the worms tail would be your birth and its head is the event of your death. The line which this worm creates with its body is called that objects worldline. Einstein predicts that worldlines can be distorted by massive bodies such as black holes. This is essentially the origin of gravity, remember. Now if an objects worldline were to be distorted so much as to form a loop that connected with a point on itself that represented an earlier place and time, it would create a corridor to the past! Picture a loop to loop track that smashes into itself as it comes back around. This closed loop is called a closed timelike curve. Timelike means that the body under consideration experiences time that increases in one direction along its worldline.2 Princeton University physicist John A. Wheeler, and Kip S. Thorne of Cal. Tech. have shown that a closed timelike curve is one way to create a kind of shortcut through space-time called a wormhole.2
Wormholes are holes in the fabric of four dimensional space-time, that are connected, but which originate at different points in space and at different times. They provide a quick path between two different locations in space and time. This is the four dimensional equivalent of pinching two pieces of a folded sheet of paper together to make contact across the gap. Distortions in space cause the points separated by the gap to bulge out and connect. This forms a wormhole through which something could instantaneously travel to a far away place and time.4 No more problems of traveling in a rocket ship for years to get into the future! This is essentially what was written about in "Alice in Wonderlands Through the Looking Glass." Her looking glass was a wormhole that connected her home in Oxford, with wonderland. All she had to do was climb into her looking glass and she would emerge on the other side of forever. In reality however, it would require a much more elaborate scheme to create a wormhole that connects two different points in space-time. First it would require the construction of two identical machines consisting of two huge parallel metal plates that are electrically charged with unbelievable amounts of energy. When the machines are placed in proximity of each other, the enormous amounts of energy -about that of an exploding star- would rip a hole in space-time and connect the two machines via a wormhole. This is possible, and the beginnings of it have been illustrated in the lab by what is known as the Casimir Effect. The next task would be to place one of these machines on a craft that could travel at close to the speed of light. The craft would take one machine on a journey while it was still connected to the one on earth via the wormhole. Now, a simple step into the wormhole would transport you to a different place and a different time.
Wormholes and closed timelike loops appear to be the main ways that time travel into the past would be possible. The limitation on this time travel into the past is that it would be impossible to travel back to a time before the machine was originally created. Although the aforementioned theories of general relativity are consistent for closed timelike curves and wormholes, the theories say nothing about the actual process of traveling through them. Quantum mechanics can be used to model possible scenarios, and yields the probability of each possible output. Quantum mechanics, when used in the context of time travel, has a so-called many-universe interpretation. This was first proposed by Hugh Everett III in 1957.3 It encompasses the idea that if something can physically happen, it does in some universe. Everett says that our reality is only one of many equally valid universes. There is a collection of universes, called a multiverse. Every multiverse has copies of every person, structure, and atom. For every possible event, every possible outcome is said to be played out on a different universe. This interpretation of quantum mechanics is quite controversial however, but does elicit the notion that it may be impossible to travel backward in time to our own universe or dimension. One must consider what past would be the destination of a time traveler. The notion that time travel could link parallel universes, has been anticipated in science fiction novels, and is even depicted in the popular television series "Sliders." In this program, a "sliding machine" creates a wormhole that links two parallel dimensions. Each week the group of "sliders" jump into the wormhole and emerge in the same place and time, but a different dimension. They can run into their other selves and experience a reality that has yielded a vastly different society than their own. The interesting thing is that the stuff of science fiction, can be deduced from existing physical theory. All the claims made about time travel are consequences of basic scientific laws and standard quantum mechanics.
The proposal of time travel is backed by scientific theory, but that is not enough to make it realistically possible. Numerous arguments are proposed that that prevent time travel into the past. Both common sense and scientific fact construct serious obstacles. A major argument against time travel into the past is called the autonomy principle, better know as the grandfather paradox. This paradox is created when a time traveler goes back in time to meet his or her grandfather. Now upon their introduction it would be possible to change the course of events that lead up to your grandfather and grandmother marrying. You could tell him something about a family secret to convince him you are who you say you are, and he may proceed to tell his soon to be wife. She may in turn doubt his sanity and have him committed. Thus your grandparents would never have your mother, and therefore you couldnt be born! But then how could you have ever existed to travel back in time if you dont exist? You would have had to have been created via autonomy. The next question would be, if your mother was never born, then when you return to the future would anything you did in your life exist? Or would you, your friends, your home etc. never have existed? This is clearly an inconsistency paradox that would rule out time travel, yet interestingly enough the laws of physics do not forbid such excursions. The multiverse concept eradicates the problem of the autonomy principal, because it allows time travel to the past, but to a different universe. You would meet the person who was your grandfather in your universe, but never married your grandmother in his universe. In the universe that you traveled to, you never existed.
Another argument of impossibility is called the chronology principal. This principal states that time travelers could bring information to the past that could be used to create new ideas and products. This would involve no creative energy on the part of the "inventor." Imagine that Pablo Ruiz y Picasso, the most influential and successful artist of the 20th century, were to travel back in time to meet his younger self. Assuming he stays in his correct universe, he could give his younger self his portfolio containing copies of his paintings, sculptures, graphic art, and ceramics. The young version of Picasso could then meticulously copy the reproductions, profoundly and irrevocably affecting the future of art. Thus, the reproductions exist because they are copied from the originals, and the originals exist because they are copied from the reproductions. No creative energy would have ever been expended to create the masterpieces! 3 This chronology principal rules out travel into the past.
A notion that was once nothing more than science fiction, is now a concept thats becoming reality. Einsteins theories of general and special relativity can be used to actually prove that time travel is possible, and research has shown that fast moving craft can travel into the future. Time dilation is the easiest method because it merely requires high velocity motion to experience time travel.3 Phenomena known as wormholes and closed timelike curves are possible means of time travel into the future and the past.4 Traveling into the past is a task which is much more difficult however. Its theory involves complicated scenarios of tears in four dimensional space-time, energy equivalent to that of an exploding star, and traveling near the speed of light. Both common sense and scientific fact can be used to paint scenarios that become serious obstacles. Yet even these hindrances can be explained away! If the multiverse concept is reality, then most present ideas of time travel are based on a false reality. If time travel is completely impossible then the reason has yet to be discovered.
Here's some interesting feedback that I've gotten from some thoughtful people, as well as a few intersting links.
References
1) Bagnall, Phil , "Where have all the time travelers gone?" New Scientist July 6 1996, v151
2) Deutsch, David, & Lockwood, Michael , "The quantum physics of time travel," Scientific American March 1994, v270
3) Parsons, Paul , "A warped view of time travel," Science October 11 1996, v274
4) "How to murder your grandfather and still get born," The Economist January 20 1996, v338
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Brian's Views on Time Travel
and Interdimensional Voyages
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Time Travel
Time travel is no longer regarded as strictly science fiction. For years the concept of time travel has been the topic of science fiction novels and movies, and has been pondered by great scientists throughout history. Einsteins theories of general and special relativity can be used to actually prove that time travel is possible. Government research experiments have yielded experimental data that conclusively illustrate that fast moving aircraft have traveled into the future. This phenomenon is due to the principal of time dilation, which states that bodies moving at high velocities experience a time that ticks slower than the time measured at zero velocity.3 Not as much time elapses for a moving body as does for everything else. Phenomena known as wormholes and closed timelike curves are possible means of time travel into the future and the past.4 Traveling into the past is a task which is much more difficult than traveling into the future. This feat has not yet been accomplished -to our knowledge- and its theory involves complicated scenarios of tears in four dimensional space-time, and traveling near the speed of light. Obstacles which prevent our hubris attempts to cheat time include our inability to move even close to the speed of light, and finding a source of energy as powerful as an exploding star. Simply because the proposal of time travel is backed by scientific theory, is no reason to expect that it is easily achievable. Numerous arguments are proposed that that prevent time travel into the past. Both common sense and scientific fact can be used to paint scenarios that become serious obstacles. Not to fear, we have all the time in the world to overcome these minor limitations.
Imagine if you will, that you are one of the people sill alive today that was born prior to 1903, when the first airplane took flight. When you were young the idea of flying would probably have been quite exciting. Some scientists believe that we may presently be living through an identical scenario. The thing that would be so exciting however, would not be flight, but time travel. Leading scientists believe that our children will live to once again see the impossible become routine. Professor Michio Kaku of the University of New York believes that space flight may one day unlock the secret of time itself. This will require the development of spacecraft that can travel at speeds on the order of two hundred million meters per second, thats about four hundred and fifty million miles per hour. Craft traveling at this speed will take us near the speed of light, where time actually slows down. This is whats known as time dilation. Einsteins theories predict that the faster a spacecraft moves, the slower time ticks inside of it. Imagine that a rocket ship takes off from earth and approaches the speed of light. If we were to watch it from earth with a very powerful telescope as it traveled away from us, we would see everyone inside the ship as being frozen in time. To us their time would slow down, but to them nothing would change! This has been measured in the laboratory and on location using atomic clocks, aircraft, satellites and rockets. It is proven that time slows down the faster you move. In 1975 Professor Carol Allie of the University of Maryland tested Einsteins theory using two synchronized atomic clocks. One clock was loaded on a plane and flown for several hours, while the other clock remained on the ground at the air base. Upon return, the clock on board the plane was found to be ever so slightly slower that the one on the ground. This was not due to experimental error, and has been repeated numerous times with the same result. This difference in time is even more pronounced in satellites such as the space station. This is because these objects are traveling at speeds much faster and for much longer periods than possible in an airplane. The faster an object moves, the more time is distorted.
Now that we know that it is possible to travel into the future by moving at great speeds, the next problem is how to travel in time a respectable amount without having to sit in a fast moving spaceship for years. This problem is solved by the theoretical existence of what are know as closed timelike curves, and wormholes.
Einsteins special and general theories of relativity combine three-dimensional space with time to form four dimensional space-time.2 Space-time consists of points or events that represent a particular place at a particular time. Your entire life thus forms a sort of twisting, turning worm in space time! The tip of the worms tail would be your birth and its head is the event of your death. The line which this worm creates with its body is called that objects worldline. Einstein predicts that worldlines can be distorted by massive bodies such as black holes. This is essentially the origin of gravity, remember. Now if an objects worldline were to be distorted so much as to form a loop that connected with a point on itself that represented an earlier place and time, it would create a corridor to the past! Picture a loop to loop track that smashes into itself as it comes back around. This closed loop is called a closed timelike curve. Timelike means that the body under consideration experiences time that increases in one direction along its worldline.2 Princeton University physicist John A. Wheeler, and Kip S. Thorne of Cal. Tech. have shown that a closed timelike curve is one way to create a kind of shortcut through space-time called a wormhole.2
Wormholes are holes in the fabric of four dimensional space-time, that are connected, but which originate at different points in space and at different times. They provide a quick path between two different locations in space and time. This is the four dimensional equivalent of pinching two pieces of a folded sheet of paper together to make contact across the gap. Distortions in space cause the points separated by the gap to bulge out and connect. This forms a wormhole through which something could instantaneously travel to a far away place and time.4 No more problems of traveling in a rocket ship for years to get into the future! This is essentially what was written about in "Alice in Wonderlands Through the Looking Glass." Her looking glass was a wormhole that connected her home in Oxford, with wonderland. All she had to do was climb into her looking glass and she would emerge on the other side of forever. In reality however, it would require a much more elaborate scheme to create a wormhole that connects two different points in space-time. First it would require the construction of two identical machines consisting of two huge parallel metal plates that are electrically charged with unbelievable amounts of energy. When the machines are placed in proximity of each other, the enormous amounts of energy -about that of an exploding star- would rip a hole in space-time and connect the two machines via a wormhole. This is possible, and the beginnings of it have been illustrated in the lab by what is known as the Casimir Effect. The next task would be to place one of these machines on a craft that could travel at close to the speed of light. The craft would take one machine on a journey while it was still connected to the one on earth via the wormhole. Now, a simple step into the wormhole would transport you to a different place and a different time.
Wormholes and closed timelike loops appear to be the main ways that time travel into the past would be possible. The limitation on this time travel into the past is that it would be impossible to travel back to a time before the machine was originally created. Although the aforementioned theories of general relativity are consistent for closed timelike curves and wormholes, the theories say nothing about the actual process of traveling through them. Quantum mechanics can be used to model possible scenarios, and yields the probability of each possible output. Quantum mechanics, when used in the context of time travel, has a so-called many-universe interpretation. This was first proposed by Hugh Everett III in 1957.3 It encompasses the idea that if something can physically happen, it does in some universe. Everett says that our reality is only one of many equally valid universes. There is a collection of universes, called a multiverse. Every multiverse has copies of every person, structure, and atom. For every possible event, every possible outcome is said to be played out on a different universe. This interpretation of quantum mechanics is quite controversial however, but does elicit the notion that it may be impossible to travel backward in time to our own universe or dimension. One must consider what past would be the destination of a time traveler. The notion that time travel could link parallel universes, has been anticipated in science fiction novels, and is even depicted in the popular television series "Sliders." In this program, a "sliding machine" creates a wormhole that links two parallel dimensions. Each week the group of "sliders" jump into the wormhole and emerge in the same place and time, but a different dimension. They can run into their other selves and experience a reality that has yielded a vastly different society than their own. The interesting thing is that the stuff of science fiction, can be deduced from existing physical theory. All the claims made about time travel are consequences of basic scientific laws and standard quantum mechanics.
The proposal of time travel is backed by scientific theory, but that is not enough to make it realistically possible. Numerous arguments are proposed that that prevent time travel into the past. Both common sense and scientific fact construct serious obstacles. A major argument against time travel into the past is called the autonomy principle, better know as the grandfather paradox. This paradox is created when a time traveler goes back in time to meet his or her grandfather. Now upon their introduction it would be possible to change the course of events that lead up to your grandfather and grandmother marrying. You could tell him something about a family secret to convince him you are who you say you are, and he may proceed to tell his soon to be wife. She may in turn doubt his sanity and have him committed. Thus your grandparents would never have your mother, and therefore you couldnt be born! But then how could you have ever existed to travel back in time if you dont exist? You would have had to have been created via autonomy. The next question would be, if your mother was never born, then when you return to the future would anything you did in your life exist? Or would you, your friends, your home etc. never have existed? This is clearly an inconsistency paradox that would rule out time travel, yet interestingly enough the laws of physics do not forbid such excursions. The multiverse concept eradicates the problem of the autonomy principal, because it allows time travel to the past, but to a different universe. You would meet the person who was your grandfather in your universe, but never married your grandmother in his universe. In the universe that you traveled to, you never existed.
Another argument of impossibility is called the chronology principal. This principal states that time travelers could bring information to the past that could be used to create new ideas and products. This would involve no creative energy on the part of the "inventor." Imagine that Pablo Ruiz y Picasso, the most influential and successful artist of the 20th century, were to travel back in time to meet his younger self. Assuming he stays in his correct universe, he could give his younger self his portfolio containing copies of his paintings, sculptures, graphic art, and ceramics. The young version of Picasso could then meticulously copy the reproductions, profoundly and irrevocably affecting the future of art. Thus, the reproductions exist because they are copied from the originals, and the originals exist because they are copied from the reproductions. No creative energy would have ever been expended to create the masterpieces! 3 This chronology principal rules out travel into the past.
A notion that was once nothing more than science fiction, is now a concept thats becoming reality. Einsteins theories of general and special relativity can be used to actually prove that time travel is possible, and research has shown that fast moving craft can travel into the future. Time dilation is the easiest method because it merely requires high velocity motion to experience time travel.3 Phenomena known as wormholes and closed timelike curves are possible means of time travel into the future and the past.4 Traveling into the past is a task which is much more difficult however. Its theory involves complicated scenarios of tears in four dimensional space-time, energy equivalent to that of an exploding star, and traveling near the speed of light. Both common sense and scientific fact can be used to paint scenarios that become serious obstacles. Yet even these hindrances can be explained away! If the multiverse concept is reality, then most present ideas of time travel are based on a false reality. If time travel is completely impossible then the reason has yet to be discovered.
Here's some interesting feedback that I've gotten from some thoughtful people, as well as a few intersting links.
References
1) Bagnall, Phil , "Where have all the time travelers gone?" New Scientist July 6 1996, v151
2) Deutsch, David, & Lockwood, Michael , "The quantum physics of time travel," Scientific American March 1994, v270
3) Parsons, Paul , "A warped view of time travel," Science October 11 1996, v274
4) "How to murder your grandfather and still get born," The Economist January 20 1996, v338
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lets say that thing with the rocket ship is true...if youre on a rocket ship traveling at the speed of light and it 'appears' to people who are watching the rocket ship that time is standing still for the rocket ship and time is normal for the people watching it......
is the rocket ship actually traveling into the future?...or is that just what it looks like to observers?
i think thats the same argument people make about 'if you are in a vehicle traveling at the speed of light, and you walk from the front to the back...wouldnt you be traveling faster than the speed of light?"...the answer is NO...everything is relative...you would only be traveling however fast you are walking on the vehicle
i think my point is ...depending on your point of perspective, things dont always appear to be what they actually are
ren
is the rocket ship actually traveling into the future?...or is that just what it looks like to observers?
i think thats the same argument people make about 'if you are in a vehicle traveling at the speed of light, and you walk from the front to the back...wouldnt you be traveling faster than the speed of light?"...the answer is NO...everything is relative...you would only be traveling however fast you are walking on the vehicle
i think my point is ...depending on your point of perspective, things dont always appear to be what they actually are
ren
I am actually from the year 2434 and travelled back in time as a disastrous plague befell woman kind. First it became extremely painful(even when you WERENT trying to hurt them) to fuck their asses, then in the second stage of the "BD virus(bulldyke virus)" they became lesbians, which at first made up for the lack of anal, but as the disease progressed, women became strangely attracted to rugby shirts and over sized slacks, hair began to grow where it had never been before, except perhaps in Desi Baba's girl friends. In the last stage women took up mechanics and became soldiers, rising a blood red rag of menstruation into battle.
I have therefore returned to butt fuck as many hotties as possible, and sabotage the rugby shirt, and bowl hair cutting industries.
I have therefore returned to butt fuck as many hotties as possible, and sabotage the rugby shirt, and bowl hair cutting industries.
dolfe1 said:
It's possible because I've seen it done on Star Trek!
Seriously, I think time only travels in one direction. However, it is still quite interesting that time is not a constant and moves at different rates depending on gravity and acceleration. This isn't impossible to imagine when you remember that all things are made of atoms and gravity and acceleration affect the rates that the atoms vibrate.
FTW
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dolfe1 said:
Hell yeah its true i watched Timmay do it for like the 7th time last night on a rerun of South Park.
quedog123
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Something to think about! ok this may be a lil weird sounding but i have herd this before and it makes sense to me. first of what is time????? who has the law of time apply to them? us, now for thoose who are religous "yes i am bringing god into the time travel argument" now god doesnt play by the time rule! he invented time! We are humans!! we have physical scientific laws that govern us but that does not mean that every where in this existence plays by our rules. in a another galaxy continuoum whatever time could not even be a thing there could be no past preasent future fate. Are minds are boundaged by our physical laws of the universe but they may not apply to everything else. does anyone folow me? like lets say where ever heaven is there is no time? lets say that some other galaxy where the past is present and future
ast i know this is sounding nuts but just try to grasp it
ast i know this is sounding nuts but just try to grasp it
jefft77
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If traveling into the past is possible then why hasnt the future visited us?
I think that travelling into the past is impossible but seeing the past is possible.
Ive heard that many of the stars that you see at night dont even exist anymore but we still are receiving the light from them that takes thousands of light years to get to earth. So I guess we see into the past when we look into the sky at night.
Ive also heard If you were able to get to a star millions of light years away instantly and have a powerful telescope in theory that if you looked at the earth you would see dinosaurs roaming. It wouldnt be what is really happening but you would just be receiving the image that has been traveling at the speed of light for millions of years and its finally getting to the star.
I believe if you could travel at a speed much faster than the speed of light then stop instantly that you would see the past happening in front of your eyes but it would just be an image and not actually happening.
I think Travelling and seeing into the future is impossible. If you travel at high speeds then time dilation takes affect and you slow down but that just means that your body and everything traveling at that speed slows down while everything else that is not moving at your speed continues on at a regular pace. So when you stop traveling you are in the present and not the future. Its just that you havent aged nearly as much as the rest of the world so it appears to be the future. Make any sense?
Just my thoughts
Jeff
I think that travelling into the past is impossible but seeing the past is possible.
Ive heard that many of the stars that you see at night dont even exist anymore but we still are receiving the light from them that takes thousands of light years to get to earth. So I guess we see into the past when we look into the sky at night.
Ive also heard If you were able to get to a star millions of light years away instantly and have a powerful telescope in theory that if you looked at the earth you would see dinosaurs roaming. It wouldnt be what is really happening but you would just be receiving the image that has been traveling at the speed of light for millions of years and its finally getting to the star.
I believe if you could travel at a speed much faster than the speed of light then stop instantly that you would see the past happening in front of your eyes but it would just be an image and not actually happening.
I think Travelling and seeing into the future is impossible. If you travel at high speeds then time dilation takes affect and you slow down but that just means that your body and everything traveling at that speed slows down while everything else that is not moving at your speed continues on at a regular pace. So when you stop traveling you are in the present and not the future. Its just that you havent aged nearly as much as the rest of the world so it appears to be the future. Make any sense?
Just my thoughts
Jeff
