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BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Like it or not I have to hold hands because in retrospect I should have said something during the woody woodpecker white pride talk when HE did. I was hoping everything would pass and we’d be beyond this point. I didn’t, I regret it and feel partially responsible.

This all escalated from shit posts from guys that aren’t even on MESO anymore.
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I was not even here during that debate. Wasn't that all Achilles or some shit?
 
eje1990 said:
I haven't said shit to you during all of this but seriously man. This post is narcissistic as fuck. You are blindly calling everyone one a racist while claiming to be well versed and have traveled. Having traveled a little bit myself and have worked out of the country in St. Lucia for a bit I can tell you I have never seen more racism in my life. The patois speaking rastas fucking HATE people from India. I know because my house mate was from India and it was rough. The Germans absolutely despised the Russian students. And the Russians hated the St. Lucians. The Hindis didn't like most of anyone. And well.... Being American we got the worst of most of it.

The point being is that almost all of them couldn't look past their cultural differences and get along. There was no placing blame on the others for not liking them and pulling a racist card. And at the same time no one was better than anyone and it was all wasted energy.

Sort of like what you are doing. Just wasted energy with an opinion of hate and skewed perception claiming the hate is coming from others. Don't you see that? Just take a step back and look at it man. If you truly believe some of these guys are racist what the fuck are you going to change about their views? Nothing. Especially not with hostility.

Wanna know how I got my house mate to be cool with the German and the German to be cool with the Russian. By him cooking awesome food, us taking our fuckin shoes off, and sitting on the floor and eating with our damn fingers out of respect. If I could see those dudes show that level of respect you should be able to hold your tongue and not shit talk @Mac11wildcat wife and make everyone else seem less than and try to make yourself seem more than. Youre just a person like the rest of everyone.

Smoke a fat joint. Kick back. And meditate on why you're so worked up. You can't change everyone or anyone but yourself.
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BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Well stated and I DO agree with you. I will say it’s the context that gives this all meaning. I’m by no means a liberal running around calling for everything offensive to be removed. I’m not calling anyone racists either.

Let me recant where all this came from as it will help point out why I personally got offended. @Urgentfury12 has stated repeatedly that he is proud of his Nordic decent. I have NO ISSUES with that. He’s stated he has Nordic tattoos and tattoos of runes, again no problem. During that discussion a guy (and I’m sorry I forget who) posted his tattoo. It was pretty bad and no one could decipher wtf it was. Someone asked and it was a woodpecker. That was then equated with white pride. That’s where we were treading on thin ice and that’s where @Morefyah originally commented and called it out for being racist, which it was. And then gang mentality rose up against @Morefyah defending the guys, most of which aren’t even here anymore. I pointed out there’s no place for that stuff in this thread, it’s all negative. I hoped that we moved on. But guys, you know what the undertone is. You post that stuff up to get a rise out of @Morefyah. “Look, it LOOKS racist but it’s not” and then you defend your argument.

I agree the confederate flag is part of history. The only thing that makes that a racist symbol is that white hate groups adopted it. And now as a result historical statues are coming down. That’s wrong but it’s the white hate groups that are ultimately responsible. They ruined it.

All through my childhood nazi has been taught as being bad and evil. That’s the history that we learn. That coin was posted because it’s nazi but “just a coin so you can’t call it racist”. The “game” or “joke” got carried away. You know you guys took it too far. Admit it and move on. I’ve posted no less than 3 times that we need to avoid that crap. It only results in negativity. Thank god no one posts about politics too much. That gets negative quick.

Post guns. Post cars. I don’t care. I’m not into that, but I like that you all get excited and eager to share. That’s all positive. I’m totally into sports and my Philly teams are doing well. I’ve tried posting about that but you guys aren’t heavy into sports. No big deal. But that’s positive stuff too.

Buttholes are positive. Steroids positive. Training is positive. These are all things that bring us all here. I didn’t come here to get offended and I don’t want to derail this thread with this shit. It’s draining me and I felt like a zombie all day because it sucks not being able to post good shit here.

This place isn’t censored and I’m not idealistic enough to believe everyone is going to always agree. But when in doubt just keep everything positive!
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eje1990 said:
I've only been to Jamaica a few times and they are pretty lax there. And the food was good. St. Lucia was interesting but I saw a darker side because I lived there for a good part of a year. The old school Rasta guys were awesome. Great food/diet and way of life. The generation of my age were the ones with hate. Kinda different than the states where the old generations are stuck in those ways.

I understand you are trying to be a voice. So we're the students at Kent State. But they also took it in a direction that resulted in a lot of hostility. It cause a lot of grief. I'm not trying to get all corny and shit but one can only change hate with love and tolerance.

Some people might not think and act as you do and that's perfectly okay. It's okay in the sense that everyone is their own person and that is individuality. Wether or not you agree on a political or moral stance is irrelevant. It's that fact that everyone here. On MESO. Can live and interact in perfect harmony and peace for one common goal. To get swole. Lol.

Don't let anyone rent space in your head.
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Said it way better than me on my last post. Very articulate. My case is rested.

I will not be posting on the subject anymore.
 
iceman440 said:
Didn't see any white coins, clearly racist lol. Also was not trying to be any type of brag thread, but the fact that some people were saying I am "collecting" only nazi coins or anything to that degree is absolutely absurd
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Oh yea man, I was not trying to imply you were bragging. Sorry if that’s how it came across. I am just trying to make a funny so we can attempt to move past all this banter that will never be productive. :)
 
puckhog said:
Oh yea man, I was not trying to imply you were bragging. Sorry if that’s how it came across. I am just trying to make a funny so we can attempt to move past all this banter that will never be productive. :)
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I know , sorry was not trying to accuse. I always mentioned them, and alot of people are put up or shut up, just never planned on posting them.

I think we should move past it. Hopefully itll save some grace and bigbald will head back out way
 
iceman440 said:
@BigBaldBeardGuy
I agree with most of everything you said. Except one thing. You are down right fucking wrong, and you are trying to justify it to save morefyahs face. You know damn well that coin had 0 racism backed behind it.

Just to prove it, I will show a small sample of my most racist coins (basically what is accessible) Be careful, these have been known to throw around a lot of hate speech. Just like how my glock likes to shoot people when I am not home.



See how racist they are. I have Mexican (13k proofs available), snow Mexican(who cares), British (3000 proofs), Australian (9000 proof) , African (not sure on proof), and even Koreans (25000), and American (morgans are getting harder to come by) . Coins of all hates. I hope this was extremely sarcastic for you.

Not being I am trying to be a dick, but because I hope this lets you realize how silly this entire fucking thing is.
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I’ll try one last time and you either get it or you don’t but I’ll drop it either way.

Coins aren’t racist. Post all the coin pictures you want. Your coin collection is something you enjoy. That’s positive.

Posting a single picture of a nazi coin fully knowing that it might offend someone is just stirring up negativity. You KNOW you were caught up in the running “joke” or “game” that was “let’s get a rise out of @morefyah”. That’s why you did it. That’s negative. You had never posted a coin pic before that. There’s never been coin discussion like you do with guns and cars and buttholes.

You posted that nazi coin coincidentally, maybe not so coincidentally when I also posted my 3rd request to leave hot topic things like nazi, confederate flags or white pride OUT of this thread. So that coin pushed me to my breaking point and I saw red because it’s something that my kids have to still face and they SHOULD NOT have to deal with that shit.

It’s all negative and I’m not on MESO for that. This is exhausting and draining.

I explained my side. And I’ll end with the 4th and final request to please leave negative shit out of this thread, particularly stuff that would be associated with racial instigation. Otherwise I’ll sign off for good because this really does suck.

There are other threads in the great land of MESO for anything you want or if there isn’t simply start one. Categorize this shit and no ones offended. But when I sit down to watch the Super Bowl and instead some twat decided to air an Oprah Interviews the Kardashian’s, I’d be disgusted and offended by that too!
 
I’m not letting any of this go without a fucking apology. The new guys not involved in this bullshit just see a moron calling them racists, among other hilarious attempts at insults, for no reason AND OF COURSE went and joked about racist shit. How is that not a fairly expected response?

MF even tried to ruin a thread of mine intending to help members. For no reason. Justify that. Try. Then we’ll talk about mentioning my wife, and anything else about my life he’s completely ignorant of.

How about that for positive?
 
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