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Will do. Gonna cruise for another 3 weeks and then I’m gonna do it.
If you’re fully PCTing error on the side of too much HCG if it’s not something you used on cycle. Most guys don’t use enough.

IMO 50mg clomid for 4 weeks, 40 nolva for 4 weeks and 20 for 2 weeks. Use HCG roughly as follows if you’ve been on for a long time, with Day 1 being after you’ve allowed exo test to get 4 half lives from last pin.

Day 1 and 2: 2500iu
Day 3, 5, and 7: 1000iu
Week 2-3: 500iu EOD
 
Where was this tradition when they went after @Mac11wildcat or myself with ZERO proof. I don’t recall you demanding anything from them, matter of fact you backed them at every post.
Seems to me there is a double standard on these so called traditions.

You twist words. You can scroll back too if you care to. I didn’t “back them at every post”. When biggerben first posted I replied back to him trying to clear the shit up from the start. You weren’t included at the beginning and you dragged yourself INTO it.

I never said anything shitty about any of you guys so to say I “backed them” is twisting words.

Those guys were here before you and they’ll be here long after you get tired of making your angry posts.
 
Those guys were here before you and they’ll be here long after you get tired of making your angry posts.
I can’t even begin to verbalize how fucking irrelevant and useless this rationale is.

Fuck anyone who’s using tenure for disrespect or reckless behavior. It excuses nothing. They can get fucked all the same as Balco and MoreFuckstick.
 
Scroll back. And I DID believe balco at first. I defended him.

Then he posted the picture of the stopper and his story started to fall apart.

I mean, I don’t believe anything until there is proof. If bolder just came in here and said “hey guys TGIs is poison” are you going to automatically believe it

I do see what you mean, but there has to be some sort of logic applied to it. Automatically taking one side of the story without proof is a dangerous way of thinking.

I didn’t believe balco, and I did not dismiss him at first either. Waited for any type of proof to break through
 
Yea and I wasted a vial of NPP for Balcos sake. I’ll ask one more time, where were your precious meso traditions a few weeks ago ?

Matter of fact I advised you not to waste the vial trying to duplicate balco.

Members will always attack other members. If a source attacked you I’d hop on your side without a thought or hesitation. Goldline is a source. A failed source at that. He has 3 posts. 1 was his intro and 2 are these vague accusations.
 
IN FACT.

Since I’ve been here, this bullshit “veteran” logic has been tested and proven nonsense TWICE. JUST BY EFFORTS AGAINST ME.

That’s two fuckheads attacking me personally before and after offering training (which several members posting in THIS THREAD are fucking crushing) AND this recent bullshit.

So. Two strikes. Just pointed at me. Justify it. Go.
 
I mean, I don’t believe anything until there is proof. If bolder just came in here and said “hey guys TGIs is poison” are you going to automatically believe it

I do see what you mean, but there has to be some sort of logic applied to it. Automatically taking one side of the story without proof is a dangerous way of thinking.

I didn’t believe balco, and I did not dismiss him at first either. Waited for any type of proof to break through

@balco sucks because he cried wolf. That goes against everything members should do here.

But at MESO it’s supposed to be members sticking together against the sources so we collectively have a strong voice. That holds sources accountable. If it truly was an issue with a few of TGI’s stoppers someone needs to point it out and people need to give that member support or the issue might not be corrected properly. When it became obvious that @balco scammed EVERYONE turned on him because that shit trivializes any REAL issues that might come up.
 
@balco sucks because he cried wolf. That goes against everything members should do here.

But at MESO it’s supposed to be members sticking together against the sources so we collectively have a strong voice. That holds sources accountable. If it truly was an issue with a few of TGI’s stoppers someone needs to point it out and people need to give that member support or the issue might not be corrected properly. When it became obvious that @balco scammed EVERYONE turned on him because that shit trivializes any REAL issues that might come up.

I agree with you. But I think where we differ is when to draw the line.

I am all for us teaming up to force sources to do better. But I don’t think that we should dismiss anything or take anything as fact without proof. It’s just bad either way

Do I believe this guy, no way. But I won’t dismiss him until he post some evidence.
 
IN FACT.

Since I’ve been here, this bullshit “veteran” logic has been tested and proven nonsense TWICE. JUST BY EFFORTS AGAINST ME.

That’s two fuckheads attacking me personally before and after offering training (which several members posting in THIS THREAD are fucking crushing) AND this recent bullshit.

So. Two strikes. Just pointed at me. Justify it. Go.

I never said I agreed with them going after you. I never backed that. I didn’t kick you when you were down. I have no idea why they went after you. Member against member. That happens a dozen times a day here.

Maybe you’ll never understand my point. MESO wasn’t just created in the form it is today. There’s been years in the making here and whether you like them or not, guys like biggerben and Brutus and CBS each played a part in shaping it. I have appreciation for that because so many other forums ARENT like this. That was were I was coming from. I wasn’t defending them, they don’t need someone like me to defend them. Read their post histories they’ve offered incredible advice along the way.

Mac, you offer great advice too and I respect that. I don’t know why they attacked you and I can only guess it has to do with the being a service/being a member thing. And I don’t have a solution for that.
 
The solution is not being a fuckhead for the sake of it.

If you come with accusations come with proof.

Being afraid of some random fucking screenname on the internet “because he was here before me” isn’t in my SOP. That’s grade A retarded.

And if THAT behavior is what made Meso were fucking lucky it even still exists.
 
I never said I agreed with them going after you. I never backed that. I didn’t kick you when you were down. I have no idea why they went after you. Member against member. That happens a dozen times a day here.

Maybe you’ll never understand my point. MESO wasn’t just created in the form it is today. There’s been years in the making here and whether you like them or not, guys like biggerben and Brutus and CBS each played a part in shaping it. I have appreciation for that because so many other forums ARENT like this. That was were I was coming from. I wasn’t defending them, they don’t need someone like me to defend them. Read their post histories they’ve offered incredible advice along the way.

Mac, you offer great advice too and I respect that. I don’t know why they attacked you and I can only guess it has to do with the being a service/being a member thing. And I don’t have a solution for that.

I also have appreciation for it. And I would tell everyone of them thank you for doing it.

But attacking members, members security, making false accusations, and being a big steamy pile of dick is not respectable.
 
The solution is not being a fuckhead for the sake of it.

If you come with accusations come with proof.

Being afraid of some random fucking screenname on the internet “because he was here before me” isn’t in my SOP. That’s grade A retarded.

And if THAT behavior is what made Meso were fucking lucky it even still exists.

This, the whole old school mindset was to be a dick and tell someone to go kill their-self in some fucked up poetic way.

How deep.....oh and productive.

Most guys here need serious guidance, after all it’s about harm reduction, right?
 
The solution is not being a fuckhead for the sake of it.

If you come with accusations come with proof.

Being afraid of some random fucking screenname on the internet “because he was here before me” isn’t in my SOP. That’s grade A retarded.

And if THAT behavior is what made Meso were fucking lucky it even still exists.

There’s being afraid. And then there’s also having a reasonable exchange back with the person. I know you asked several times for them to explain it. You don’t need to get all pissed off back at them if you didn’t do anything wrong.

If someone comes at you as a fuckhead for the sake of it and you calmly respond back then it’s clear to everyone that other dude is just crazy. When everyone in here was tossing shit back though, it was just fucking nuts.

This all got sidetracked and went sideways. But I’m good and will drop it again. Just do a little research on Goldline (not the guy who posted here but the lab he’s repping for) and you’ll see he’s a piece of shit. He owns his own forum Hardcore Underground where he sells it as Red-line. Then also rebrands as Goldline so he can sell at all the other paid boards. Shady fucker.
 
There’s being afraid. And then there’s also having a reasonable exchange back with the person. I know you asked several times for them to explain it.

If someone comes at you as a fuckhead for the sake of it and you calmly respond back then it’s clear to everyone that other dude is just crazy. When everyone in here was tossing shit back though, it was just fucking nuts.

This all got sidetracked and went sideways. But I’m good and will drop it again. Just do a little research on Goldline (not the guy who posted here but the lab he’s repping for) and you’ll see he’s a piece of shit. He owns his own forum Hardcore Underground where he sells it as Red-line. Then also rebrands as Goldline so he can sell at all the other paid boards. Shady fucker.
Any source posting in another sources thread is a POS IMO.
 
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