Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

What keeps a source masking who they are and sending in a sample, if good, they use it, if bad they omit it?
When you send in a sample you have to give it a sample name since it's a blind sample. If you post those results unless you doctor the actual PDF that is sent to you that sample name will be on it. No matter how you try to mask it
 
Bad thing is that sources and members can do this shit. Main reason we as members can’t get too relaxed with this shit. And send out our own samples.
A source could easily pretend to be a member i would think for testing then not publish bad stuff.
When you send in a sample you have to give it a sample name since it's a blind sample. If you post those results unless you doctor the actual PDF that is sent to you that sample name will be on it. No matter how you try to mask it
That i agree. But what keeps a source from using an unknown email and sending in a sample marked X1? Then as a hidden source posting only if it is in your favor.
@TitaniumGear (TGI) , happy 3000 buddy


I also think this is why if a source sends in for testing, W&M should post it. I think any source who actually cares about meso would agree to this

Thank you on 3000.

Sources could lie. That simple. I could send in a sample from a made up email. Give the sample a generic name ( i wouldn't as mine all follow a pattern [T-sample number]). Post if it helps. Don't post the bad.
 
Bad thing is that sources and members can do this shit. Main reason we as members can’t get too relaxed with this shit. And send out our own samples.

^^^^^ This right here. The system only works if members send samples in too. The results better be close to the test results the source received. That builds trust. It also catches the shitbag sources in their lies.
 
A source could easily pretend to be a member i would think for testing then not publish bad stuff.

That i agree. But what keeps a source from using an unknown email and sending in a sample marked X1? Then as a hidden source posting only if it is in your favor.


Thank you on 3000.

Sources could lie. That simple. I could send in a sample from a made up email. Give the sample a generic name ( i wouldn't as mine all follow a pattern [T-sample number]). Post if it helps. Don't post the bad.


But, If said source posts, then W&M would call them out and ruin their credibility right?

So you send in a sample with fake email. Results are good then you post them up. They would know you used fake email and would then only be in it for good results bs bad?
 
Morning meso. Hope all of you are doing well. Anybody see the news in the UG this morning? I'm a little shocked. This could effect testing for us all. I hope w&m doesn't quit doing what he does for us.
Wow! Oh wow!

That is fucked up on so many levels.
And then some member saying yesterday that no more vetting was needed. Talk about insert foot!
T-baggers response was dead on point!
 
But, If said source posts, then W&M would call them out and ruin their credibility right?

So you send in a sample with fake email. Results are good then you post them up. They would know you used fake email and would then only be in it for good results bs bad?
True, but still could happen.
Wow! Oh wow!

That is fucked up on so many levels.
And then some member saying yesterday that no more vetting was needed. Talk about insert foot!
T-baggers response was dead on point!
Agreed. Not only is it fraudulent, it could cost the community a very useful gift...I follow w&m thread and have not seen him this angry in a while. I wouldn't be surprised if he stops testing altogether.
 
BTW GOOD MORNING ...
TGI and everybody else along with this swole papa smurf coming in strong I see..
Miss everyone....I’m trying to poke around a little bit more often because I miss my family and it’s time for an updated Piglet picture !!!!
 
@TitaniumGear (TGI) you being a source that has used WM. Do you have any ideas on how to get around this? Anything to help WM so he doesn't say fuck it and leaves
Well...not really. This is not the first fuckery that has involved him.

I could see him excluding sources sending him shit at all.

I could see him only allowing sources to test raws.

I could see him saying fuck this, not worth it.

I know he posted early on testing does near zero or sometimes costs him from his own pocket for retests on questionable stuff. Who would continue to do that when you have people abusing it?
 
Just had the conversation with SST owner about this and apparently he himself is using OL’s Test E.
I don’t get it. Why would the owner of SST be using a new sources gear, when he should have pick of the litter from all the sources he has on his site.
Either he has no faith in any of them, or he gets free gear from new sources on top of what ever contributions are normal for over there.
This whole situation has the smell of dead rotting carp on the river bank.
 
I don’t get it. Why would the owner of SST be using a new sources gear, when he should have pick of the litter from all the sources he has on his site.
Either he has no faith in any of them, or he gets free gear from new sources on top of what ever contributions are normal for over there.
This whole situation has the smell of dead rotting carp on the river bank.
Or he’s full of shit. This makes zero fkn sense
 
I don’t get it. Why would the owner of SST be using a new sources gear, when he should have pick of the litter from all the sources he has on his site.
Either he has no faith in any of them, or he gets free gear from new sources on top of what ever contributions are normal for over there.
This whole situation has the smell of dead rotting carp on the river bank.
Not sure. Good question.
 
Well...not really. This is not the first fuckery that has involved him.

I could see him excluding sources sending him shit at all.

I could see him only allowing sources to test raws.

I could see him saying fuck this, not worth it.

I know he posted early on testing does near zero or sometimes costs him from his own pocket for retests on questionable stuff. Who would continue to do that when you have people abusing it?
I was thinking the same thing about only allowing sources to test raws...damn man. WM was truly a pleasure to do business with. He answered all my dumb questions, walked me thru the process of sending stuff in. He literally is the TGI of testing. Losing this guy will truly be a blow to meso. I think members/sources need to brainstorm and come up with some guidelines or rules to keep WM around
 
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