BigDaddyV
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And for some people, it really is a better alternative. I know some will say “just don’t take any opiates” but unfortunately that’s harder than it sounds for an opiate addict
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And for some people, it really is a better alternative. I know some will say “just don’t take any opiates” but unfortunately that’s harder than it sounds for an opiate addict
tauras66
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For every 10 people who say Kratom helped them with withdrawals off of opiates or affected them the same as opiates, there are 10 people who will disagree. I have no doubt where you get your Kratom from plays a part. Definitely demands that you research your source.
There’s no way it won’t affect someone like opiates as it has several opiate alkaloids. This is of course assuming your receptors aren’t fried from hard opiate use in the first place. I can take a bunch of Percocet and not feel a damn thing from them anymore because of my kratom use. Painkillers no longer have an effect on me while kratom still does and always will.
They will help kick opiates, but someone may not feel the kratom for a bit because their receptors are fried from regular opiate usage. Some people may suffer for a while before the kratom starts to have an effect for the reasons I stated above.
phenominal34
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Lol look at all the weak ass minded pussies who have muscles but can’t say no to drugs [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] yes you are all exactly like pedos !!!! They prob know it’s wrong to but are to fucking weak to stop !!! Ohhhh please help me counselor , family , anyone .... NO FUCKING HELP YOURSELVES AND BE A GOD DAM MAN WEAK BITCHES !!!!
You guys crack me up , all come to each other’s backs cause you’re all losers that can’t get off drugs. What if someone said your mother or children would die if you took another bump or snorted another line ? Could ya ,,,, sryyy would ya still do it ? Probably ..... cause ur VERY WEAK !!!!!!
You guys crack me up , all come to each other’s backs cause you’re all losers that can’t get off drugs. What if someone said your mother or children would die if you took another bump or snorted another line ? Could ya ,,,, sryyy would ya still do it ? Probably ..... cause ur VERY WEAK !!!!!!
I can’t take you seriously when you type at a 4th grade level. If English isn’t your second language, I’d be extremely embarrassed because you come off as a complete moron and seem to have little grasp of the English language and proper grammar.
You’re not triggering anyone because it’s very clear you’re an extremely unintelligent clown. Not to mention no one gives a shit what some random uneducated clown on the internet thinks. So kudos to you for wasting your own time.
phenominal34
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Yet u keep responding addict , what’s a matter cant you help yourself [emoji1303][emoji1303] didn’t know I was being graded on my posting , looks just fine to me and readable .
HIGHRISK
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Can someone tell me if this guy is GTG? I don’t feel like reading. Thanks
@phenominal34 I get the the message you are putting out there and you’re right. There is a direct relationship between addiction and weakness. Only YOU can help YOU. YOU need the strength to overcome any adversity. The problem here is you don’t have to be such a fucking asshole. It’s called empathy and it’s a very strong human characteristic that you clearly lack. You don’t have to agree or like what these guys have been through but having empathy means you disregard that and just be a decent person show that they aren’t alone and there is support out there. The fucked up thing is you talk about them being weak but yet in reality their recovery shows a strength you clearly lack. They fucked up and had The will To overcome. Could you do that. I don’t know if I could had I ever gone down that road. I’m not better than them for not doing it. I just made a different choice then they did and I applaud their resolve to overcome and support themselves and because I’m a decent human being I’ll support them too. That’s not only empathy that’s also just being a man in a civilized world. Your lack of empathy and character just shows how you are the weak minded one and can’t understand one of the basic childhood principles of if you don’t have something nice to say. Don’t say it all. I know you’ll respond with some nonsense and talk shit about what I said and all you’ll be doing is furthering the point of how pathetic your life really is. It’s a beautiful day out. Why don’t you try and not be a piece of shit of a human today and actually say or do something nice. Have a nice day.
Hey buddy. Welcome to the shitshow. How’s everything. Yeah man this guys got the fire gear. Mad legit and nothin but gains to be had lol.
This right here, all of it. Pheno is just a childish tool, there’s nothing more to it.
cochino
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Pure fiya.
Wisdom.
BigDaddyV
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you mis read. A lot of us have stopped using drugs. We just agree that we are not like pedophiles and that drug addiction is hard. I assume you’ve never struggled with anything aside from your shitty physique, and that’s why you talk shit. And you’re such a “man” for going on a forum and talking shit to people you’ll never see lol you’re more of a loser than all the drug addicts in my city combined
BigDaddyV
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you’re very wise, I like you you’re a good dude.
@limitphobic @ShredMN @Thegreek and I know many others. Much respect for sharing or encouraging others to share!
I think it is powerful to share what you can overcome, you never know who might draw inspiration from it. Although not on this forum one of my buddies completely turned his life around and was initiated to do so by reading about someones else story on another training forum. Again props for being man enough to admit to a problem and overcome it.
I think it is powerful to share what you can overcome, you never know who might draw inspiration from it. Although not on this forum one of my buddies completely turned his life around and was initiated to do so by reading about someones else story on another training forum. Again props for being man enough to admit to a problem and overcome it.
To be fair, I kicked kratom but relapsed about 6 months later because I had a rough breakup with my fiancé and I was tired of coming home from work/gym and feeling lonely and like shit. I’ve kicked it a few times and have made it through months of withdrawals and into the clear before relapsing. I’m not at all concerned about my use though as it’s an extremely benign, natural substance. I don’t drink at all or use any other drugs, so I feel ok about using kratom. Kratom and gear are my vices and I’m completely ok with that! Bodybuilding and kratom go together pretty well as it’s a natural and safe analgesic with mood and energy boosting properties. It’s hard to be truly depressed when using kratom and I’ve had major depression since I was 16. I’m 30 now and have been bodybuilding religiously for 9 years and bodybuilding all but cured me of my depression, with kratom added there are very few times I feel depressed anymore. And if I do, it’s for a very, very brief period of time.
Do get headaches from using that stuff?
BigDaddyV
Member
I also love kratom, I see it like, if it’s not costly to your health and it helps you to happily be a positive productive member of society, fuckin go for it
BigDaddyV
Member
I have, but only when I took too much and was in the California sun for too long so it’s hard to say if it was directly from kratom I think it helped dehydrate me though.
Well it doesn't seem to be holding back your gains too much if thats you in your avi! You've definitely put in some work.
To be clear Im not judging anyone one way or the other, my point was simply that many people on here live similar lifestyles and have or have had similar challenges. Seeing that someone you can relate to has overcome something or is dealing with a similar situation can either motivate yourself to make a change or realize that others face the same thing so to not be too hard on yourself, rather make small changes and steps that add up over time.
As I stated before openly sharing is one of the most powerful motivators imo, so to discourage others from doing so is just ignorant. Many times those who criticize are just jealous that they don't have the strength or courage to overcome their own challenges.
You never know who may draw inspiration or have a life changing moment because of reading someone elses story or experience.
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