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So here are my bloods after running TGI Test Cyp for 6 weeks 250 mg/wk. Tested yesterday three days after last pin. No, I didn’t test my free test but I will next time. I’m very happy with the total, considering I started out with a total of 242. I’ve been feeling good. I need advice with the E2 though. I haven’t taken an AI because I wanted to see where I would land without one. I do have adex on hand. I have zero sides that I can tell, but is that still way too high? Also, is the low FH and FSH something I need to be concerned with? If so, any advice appreciated. I didn’t test lipids because I had that panel run a couple weeks ago with my reg doc. LDL was high, HDL good, triglycerides normal. I eat extremely clean so the cholesterol doesn’t worry me as much. I had high LDL for 20 years and I don’t buy into all of that cholesterol hype. Thanks for any input.
This is good. on 200 mg/wk pharma TRT my bloods always work out to 1000 - 1200 ng/dl depending on the test, testing 3 days after last pin.
 
Thanks , wawhat about refiltering ? What do you recommend . Before i has acces to .22 .

Dumb question but .22 and 0.02 is not the same ?
 
1245 isn't bad but would have been higher @48 hours for blood draw.

Protocol for Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate-

Duration: At least 6 weeks into cycle (I realize these esters can stabilize sooner than 6 weeks but this will leave no doubt. It’s pretty close to most members mid-cycle labs also.

Blood Draw: Blood should be drawn at 48hr +/- 12hrs post pin. The goal is to be as close to 48hrs as possible.


-Protocol for Testosterone Propionate-

Duration: At least 14 days into cycle

Blood Draw: Blood should be drawn at 24hrs +/- 8hrs post pin. The goal is to be as close to 24hrs as possible.
You’ve still got $200 store credit coming for Prop labs correct?

Anyone planning to submit Test Prop labs.
 
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So here are my bloods after running TGI Test Cyp for 6 weeks 250 mg/wk. Tested yesterday three days after last pin. No, I didn’t test my free test but I will next time. I’m very happy with the total, considering I started out with a total of 242. I’ve been feeling good. I need advice with the E2 though. I haven’t taken an AI because I wanted to see where I would land without one. I do have adex on hand. I have zero sides that I can tell, but is that still way too high? Also, is the low FH and FSH something I need to be concerned with? If so, any advice appreciated. I didn’t test lipids because I had that panel run a couple weeks ago with my reg doc. LDL was high, HDL good, triglycerides normal. I eat extremely clean so the cholesterol doesn’t worry me as much. I had high LDL for 20 years and I don’t buy into all of that cholesterol hype. Thanks for any input.
Why didn’t you do the 48 hr protocol? I know it’s been covered here from the last guy who didn’t follow. I believe it’s even written out on @TitaniumGear (TGI) pastebin he post everyday or was at one point. Just curious.
 
Why didn’t you do the 48 hr protocol? I know it’s been covered here from the last guy who didn’t follow. I believe it’s even written out on @TitaniumGear (TGI) pastebin he post everyday or was at one point. Just curious.
Man I wasn't even thinking of any protocol to get a store credit for anything. The ONLY thing I was trying to do was get some guys to answer my questions on the E2, and other shit. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers. Technically I got the labs at 59 hrs after last pin, and that was only because it was the only time I could get into the lab with my schedule, and I don't plan my schedule around MESO and wasn't even thinking about it.
 
So anyway, if anyone has advice on my lab questions above I'm all ears. How high are some of you veterans (older guys) comfortable letting your E2 get without any sides? I'm older so my E2 is naturally higher by default anyway. LH/LSH is LOW too....
 
So anyway, if anyone has advice on my lab questions above I'm all ears. How high are some of you veterans (older guys) comfortable letting your E2 get without any sides? I'm older so my E2 is naturally higher by default anyway. LH/LSH is LOW too....
I mean LH and FSH
 
I mean LH and FSH

Google “FSH” and “LH” you can answer your own question. And if your running steroids you should probably know already from Researching steroid cycles. When you take exogenous testosterone your system is shut down so of course LH and FSH would be zero - they’re gonadal hormones.

For estrogen some would say get an AI to get that into the “normal” range. Others would say you’re fine because the testosterone is above normal so it’s ok to have estrogen slightly above normal too as long as the ratio of testosterone to estrogen is ok. ** If you feel good and you don’t have any estrogen sides then don’t run an AI - less drugs the better.

** Edit: ie. Estrogen at 63, above the high end of normal (42.6) isn’t bad considering your testosterone is 1245, above the high end of normal (916). Point being the exogenous test put you above normal so it’s ok for the estrogen to be similarly above normal too.
 
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Google “FSH” and “LH” you can answer your own question. And if your running steroids you should probably know already from Researching steroid cycles. When you take exogenous testosterone your system is shut down so of course LH and FSH would be zero - they’re gonadal hormones.

For estrogen some would say get an AI to get that into the “normal” range. Others would say you’re fine because the testosterone is above normal so it’s ok to have estrogen slightly above normal too as long as the ratio of testosterone to estrogen is ok. ** If you feel good and you don’t have any estrogen sides then don’t run an AI - less drugs the better.

** Edit: ie. Estrogen at 63, above the high end of normal (42.6) isn’t bad considering your testosterone is 1245, above the high end of normal (916). Point being the exogenous test put you above normal so it’s ok for the estrogen to be similarly above normal too.
Thanks. It's always good to get straight info from experienced guys. I looked into the LH/FSH so I'm up to speed on it. Since this is my first go around self-administering it's great getting other perspectives. I don't trust standard medical docs anymore for many reasons. And I also question what the labs determine to be "normal" ranges for everything in bloods, because it is this same standard that tells all us old guys our test is in normal range, when it's not. Thanks again!
 
So anyway, if anyone has advice on my lab questions above I'm all ears. How high are some of you veterans (older guys) comfortable letting your E2 get without any sides? I'm older so my E2 is naturally higher by default anyway. LH/LSH is LOW too....
Mine has been almost 200 before. [emoji4]

Edit: I almost never use an AI either. I like Tomixifen much better.
 
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I keep my E right around 20. I’ve been doing this long enough that I have so many indicators on a blast or cruise that I know when mine is going up. I’ve got my cruise dialed in to an art. My doctor will prescribe me enough to stay right under 1100 test but I like being around 900. So that gives me extra for a blast.
 
Man I wasn't even thinking of any protocol to get a store credit for anything. The ONLY thing I was trying to do was get some guys to answer my questions on the E2, and other shit. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers. Technically I got the labs at 59 hrs after last pin, and that was only because it was the only time I could get into the lab with my schedule, and I don't plan my schedule around MESO and wasn't even thinking about it.
No one said you should plan your life around Meso. If you wanted to know about your e-2 and wasn’t trying to get store credit then why post it here and not create a thread in the proper forum?
Anyway take .5 Adex the day after each shot (assuming your splitting it twice a week) then re check it in a few weeks. Mine was 99 on 250 with no ai and my test was 1670. Had literally zero sides of high e2 and was surprised how high is actually was.
 
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