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That’s what worries me about my next cycle. I’m already struggling with patience and temper.
It always worries me. Sleep issues and temper issues kept me from trying Tren.
My Gym has special needs people that help clean the machines. One of the kids is mean as a damn wolverine, he yelled at me this morning and my blood was boiling. Took all I had not to go off. I would have been totally justified but damn who wants to get into it with a special needs kid.
 
It always worries me. Sleep issues and temper issues kept me from trying Tren.
My Gym has special needs people that help clean the machines. One of the kids is mean as a damn wolverine, he yelled at me this morning and my blood was boiling. Took all I had not to go off. I would have been totally justified but damn who wants to get into it with a special needs kid.
I hear you bro. I’ve also heard of the dreams and things like that. I don’t need added shit, so I’m hoping I don’t encounter bad sides. On top of that, I already have GERD issues and I heard this can cause major acid reflux.

As for the DSK.... that’s a no win bro.
 
I hear you bro. I’ve also heard of the dreams and things like that. I don’t need added shit, so I’m hoping I don’t encounter bad sides. On top of that, I already have GERD issues and I heard this can cause major acid reflux.

As for the DSK.... that’s a no win bro.
Oh definitely no win in that situation. It’s not the first time he’s yelled at me either lol. The other times I was just shocked this time I damn near come unglued.

What’s your upcoming cycle looking like ?
 
Oh definitely no win in that situation. It’s not the first time he’s yelled at me either lol. The other times I was just shocked this time I damn near come unglued.

What’s your upcoming cycle looking like ?
Probably 16 weeks. Gonna be hitting Test 500/wk, Tren A 400/wk, on for 2 weeks, off for 2, alternating that with NPP 400/wk and hitting Var 75 mg/day, alternating that as well - on for 2 weeks, off for 2 and finally, Mast E 400/wk, kickstarted with Mast P.

Need to get this body fat gone!
 
Probably 16 weeks. Gonna be hitting Test 500/wk, Tren A 400/wk, on for 2 weeks, off for 2, alternating that with NPP 400/wk and hitting Var 75 mg/day, alternating that as well - on for 2 weeks, off for 2 and finally, Mast E 400/wk, kickstarted with Mast P.

Need to get this body fat gone!
Like everyone says just bail on the Tren A if you aren’t liking it and just use the test and NPP full time. I can’t comment on the Mast, zero knowledge or experience.
 
I’m only on day 7? Of Tren A and week 7 1/2 of my cycle. Something is definitely different, no sides that I can feel but I’m noticing more strength and my patients with other people is real thin. I’m only doing a small dose because the sides scare the shit out of me.

You should be fine on that dose. You could actually be feeling it on your 7th day. I have a general good feeling from Tren at first, kinda like a caffeine buzz that lasts all the time.

The only real negative side I get is the sleep. It’s not really insomnia so much as you go thru your normal sleep cycles and Tren interrupts that so you never get to the “deep” sleep cycle. REM sleep is the light/medium sleep and that’s the part where we dream and then you’re supposed to go the deep sleep but you wake up (and so you remember your dreams). It’s not bad at first but then after a few weeks the accumulated fatigue catches up and you can become irritable. I made the mistake of trying to treat the fatigue with caffeine. No good. Lack of sleep, irritability and coffee are really the things that trigger the short temper. It’s probably not so much the Tren.

6-8 week cycle and then go back to sleeping normal again.
 
Like everyone says just bail on the Tren A if you aren’t liking it and just use the test and NPP full time. I can’t comment on the Mast, zero knowledge or experience.
Yup, that’s why I’m choosing A over E. I’d rather deal with a few bad days than a few bad weeks. I don’t like pinning often, but both NPP and Tren will be way to bail on. I also have my Adex on hand in case estrogen/gyno issues pop up.
 
You should be fine on that dose. You could actually be feeling it on your 7th day. I have a general good feeling from Tren at first, kinda like a caffeine buzz that lasts all the time.

The only real negative side I get is the sleep. It’s not really insomnia so much as you go thru your normal sleep cycles and Tren interrupts that so you never get to the “deep” sleep cycle. REM sleep is the light/medium sleep and that’s the part where we dream and then you’re supposed to go the deep sleep but you wake up (and so you remember your dreams). It’s not bad at first but then after a few weeks the accumulated fatigue catches up and you can become irritable. I made the mistake of trying to treat the fatigue with caffeine. No good. Lack of sleep, irritability and coffee are really the things that trigger the short temper. It’s probably not so much the Tren.

6-8 week cycle and then go back to sleeping normal again.
That’s what I’m afraid of. I already don’t sleep well at all but so far no change in sleep.
 
IMO ONe of the most underrated parts of working out. The older I get the more I need to warm up. I see guys all the time come in and literally start with 50-60% of there max whatever there doing. Then here I am with 5lb dumbbells warming and stretching. Them slowly move up. It’s really helped me a lot. I believe that’s one reason why my shoulders are shit. That and heavy weight for years.

It’s hard to maintain heavy imo. Haven’t put up anything over 315 in 2 months since I hit 485 flat. Yesterday wanted to see where I was at and hit 455. I was pleased with that. Next blast I’m gonna hit 505, 225X50 and 315X20 and 405X10...then that’s it for life for heavy shit.

Are those your curl numbers?
 
I am about to start the same cycle as you but except tren.
Do you think you are getting any noticeable benefits from 175mgs of tren a weekly? I am concerned about regurgitated sides of tren but I guess i can test the water with a low dose like yours. I have both tren e and hexa in stock.

Bad idea, add the tren!
 
I hear you bro. I’ve also heard of the dreams and things like that. I don’t need added shit, so I’m hoping I don’t encounter bad sides. On top of that, I already have GERD issues and I heard this can cause major acid reflux.

As for the DSK.... that’s a no win bro.
Do you already take stuff for the gerd? I started getting bad acid reflux when I started the tren but ranitidine has helped out a lot.
 
It always worries me. Sleep issues and temper issues kept me from trying Tren.
it's the temper issues that I am worried about the most as temper can have detrimental effects on me and possibly my family. I will keep tren e and hexa for another cycle and will start the following:
-500mg/wk of test cyp
-400mg/wk of DHB
-30-40mg/day of Anavar for first 6 weeks
-5ius of HGH if my fasted glucose comes to below 100
 
Do you already take stuff for the gerd? I started getting bad acid reflux when I started the tren but ranitidine has helped out a lot.
Yeah, I’m on Nexium and I’ve had some stuff make its way through that barrier, so I’m not looking forward to that potential with Tren.
 
it's the temper issues that I am worried about the most as temper can have detrimental effects on me and possibly my family. I will keep tren e and hexa for another cycle and will start the following:
-500mg/wk of test cyp
-400mg/wk of DHB
-30-40mg/day of Anavar for first 6 weeks
-5ius of HGH if my fasted glucose comes to below 100
I think you will like the DHB. I think it’s going to be a staple of my future cycles. Im not trying to be a mass monster, just trying to keep old age away and look good naked @Kim @Fitfemale31
 
it's the temper issues that I am worried about the most as temper can have detrimental effects on me and possibly my family. I will keep tren e and hexa for another cycle and will start the following:
-500mg/wk of test cyp
-400mg/wk of DHB
-30-40mg/day of Anavar for first 6 weeks
-5ius of HGH if my fasted glucose comes to below 100

I would do 50mg anavar, and I would do it the last 6 weeks. I was also add the tren lol
 
What orals do you guys like running with tren a, test p and mast p? I’ve ran this before and plan on running again here soon. Wouldn’t mind using something on the tail end maybe.
 

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