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it's the temper issues that I am worried about the most as temper can have detrimental effects on me and possibly my family. I will keep tren e and hexa for another cycle and will start the following:
-500mg/wk of test cyp
-400mg/wk of DHB
-30-40mg/day of Anavar for first 6 weeks
-5ius of HGH if my fasted glucose comes to below 100
Yeah tren effected my family too, not that I was too temperamental, I just wanted to fuck everything that walked.
 
On the tail end? Or do the 2 on/2 off? I’ve neved ran var. I don’t know about doses or anything of the sorts.

Basically I’ve read up at the end of cycle it’s more beneficial. Helps your break the Plateau with the extra kick. No need to cycle 2 on 2 off with anavar. Do 25mg in the morning, 25mg an 1hr-1.5pre workout. (Assuming your workout is afternoon)
 
I would do 50mg anavar, and I would do it the last 6 weeks. I was also add the tren lol
Thanks but no thanks about tren for right now. if i were a single man, i would be on it right now. But experience with deca, same family as tren 19-nor, has given me hints that if you run tren you might not be a family man any more. Family is very important to me therefore, i will wait until i am ready to try the magical potion :)
 
Basically I’ve read up at the end of cycle it’s more beneficial. Helps your break the Plateau with the extra kick. No need to cycle 2 on 2 off with anavar. Do 25mg in the morning, 25mg an 1hr-1.5pre workout. (Assuming your workout is afternoon)
It’ll be up to you and what you’re trying to accomplish. For my cycle, it’ll be for fat burn so I’m running it 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
Ok thanks! Mine would also be for fat burn ideally. What is the reason some do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off? Just to run it longer? Or put in another oral?
 
Ok thanks! Mine would also be for fat burn ideally. What is the reason some do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off? Just to run it longer? Or put in another oral?

No idea why you would cycle anavar like that. I would imagine you would lose a lot of the benefits doing that.

I noticed anavar about 8 days in, and about 14-18 days full effect. If you cycle I would think you would never be reaching full potential?

Maybe @Roger rabbit might be able to
Chime in?
 
Thanks but no thanks about tren for right now. if i were a single man, i would be on it right now. But experience with deca, same family as tren 19-nor, has given me hints that if you run tren you might not be a family man any more. Family is very important to me therefore, i will wait until i am ready to try the magical potion :)

Completely understand. Try low dosage tren ace! Like 25mg a day. If you feel the side effects, stop running it.

@Urgentfury12 might be able to chime in on his low dosage. It has been working well for him
 
Thanks but no thanks about tren for right now. if i were a single man, i would be on it right now. But experience with deca, same family as tren 19-nor, has given me hints that if you run tren you might not be a family man any more. Family is very important to me therefore, i will wait until i am ready to try the magical potion :)
I did 50mg tren ace/75mg test prop/50mg mast prop blend and did every other day for 9 weeks. I didn’t notice any anger personally but i am normally an easy going guy. I did notice strength gains, more vascular and some weight loss even thought I wasn’t really watching what I ate.
 
No idea why you would cycle anavar like that. I would imagine you would lose a lot of the benefits doing that.

I noticed anavar about 8 days in, and about 14-18 days full effect. If you cycle I would think you would never be reaching full potential?

Maybe @Roger rabbit might be able to
Chime in?
From the man himself:

“The two on two off helps with liver toxicity when running orals. Remember orals are very fast acting and fast to leave the body. The two weeks will help keep liver values down while running the tren. Another reason to do two on two off. Gives the liver a little break.”
 
Completely understand. Try low dosage tren ace! Like 25mg a day. If you feel the side effects, stop running it.

@Urgentfury12 might be able to chime in on his low dosage. It has been working well for him
I’m definitely noticing a strength increase and some mood issues. My pacience is just thin, I’m not roid raging or anything crazy. My dose is pretty low compared to @iceman440 and @tengtren. Those dudes are fucking insane lol.
 
I’m definitely noticing a strength increase and some mood issues. My pacience is just thin, I’m not roid raging or anything crazy. My dose is pretty low compared to @iceman440 and @tengtren. Those dudes are fucking insane lol.

I just think tren has a place in everyone’s cycles. Just gotta find the sweet spot that you can handle! Only thing I got was heartburn and had to have lots sex. Like tons of sex. I was so dehydrated. Was my burden to bear lol
 
I’m definitely noticing a strength increase and some mood issues. My pacience is just thin, I’m not roid raging or anything crazy. My dose is pretty low compared to @iceman440 and @tengtren. Those dudes are fucking insane lol.
Man, tren is kicking in for me now, maybe it's why I have shit relationships lol

Fucking idiot bitch wants to cook me "dinner" fucking rice and veggies!! RICE AND FUCKING VEGETABLES. FUCKING USELESS.

I told her. It's a waste of space for me to eat it it's worthless and unsuitable. She cried and now I'm back at my house alone fuck
 
I just think tren has a place in everyone’s cycles. Just gotta find the sweet spot that you can handle! Only thing I got was heartburn and had to have lots sex. Like tons of sex. I was so dehydrated. Was my burden to bear lol
It’s a drug that has its place for some people and others not so much. I’m experimenting with it, wasn’t in my plans at all but i figured I’d try it. If it ends up messing with me I’ll just stop. So far I’m doing good and fingers crossed and I may up the dose if it continues to agree with me.
 
Man, tren is kicking in for me now, maybe it's why I have shit relationships lol

Fucking idiot bitch wants to cook me "dinner" fucking rice and veggies!! RICE AND FUCKING VEGETABLES. FUCKING USELESS.

I told her. It's a waste of space for me to eat it it's worthless and unsuitable. She cried and now I'm back at my house alone fuck

That’s not the trens fault! Bitch knew better?!?

I like my vegetables and rice like this. Boil rice, steam vegetables add butter.

Place all that in a plate, and throw it in the fucking trash and procede to eat a flint stone sized rack of ribs
 
Man, tren is kicking in for me now, maybe it's why I have shit relationships lol

Fucking idiot bitch wants to cook me "dinner" fucking rice and veggies!! RICE AND FUCKING VEGETABLES. FUCKING USELESS.

I told her. It's a waste of space for me to eat it it's worthless and unsuitable. She cried and now I'm back at my house alone fuck
Just rice and vegetables? No meat/poultry? Yea that would be a no go in my book too.
 
From the man himself:

“The two on two off helps with liver toxicity when running orals. Remember orals are very fast acting and fast to leave the body. The two weeks will help keep liver values down while running the tren. Another reason to do two on two off. Gives the liver a little break.”
This technique is usually used with very powerful orals like superdrol and anadrol to help counter the lethargy and backpumps.
Not so much for liver values. IMO this is not needed for var and yes you will be selling yourself short with the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.
 

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