Getbignotdietrying
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Test prop is a full BITCH. Used it for the end of my first cycle I was crippled an entire month because I wanted to oct quick
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Same. I rotated injection sites and those fuckers were achey for almost the entire week until it was time to inject them again. It was Titters Prop. Obviously not his fault, just the nature of the prop beast.
I think I would use TPP instead of prop, if it ever came down to it
PM with ester/dose/score so i can copy and past to paste bin. I got 100 credit for you after that.
That’s how sust was for me. About 3-4 days of soreness
Also, for the record, soreness after injection is not pip correct? I am under the assumption that pip is during injection/right after?
Have sent these to a couple guys struggling with quads.
1.5” 25 or 27g, can’t remember, pin cap cut down to about .75” as a guard so you can apply pressure without sinking more of the pin in. Anywhere between my fingers there has worked for me. The hand on quad trick is almost always a good to go site (opposite hand, middle finger on point of knee cap, thumb makes an L, where it lands is the site). I’m also loving up higher lately.
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PIP is going to be the day to days after. Immediately is just a normal sensation of introducing a foreign substance to a muscle with a needle.
Thanks for the details - I've yet to pin quads, I'm alternating top 1/4 glutes, but will def save this post in my notebook I keep track of things in.
Super noob question, but I'm leery on googling this type of stuff as there's a lot of 'tards out there that claim to be anecdotal experts. Is there some failsafe/obvious factor that goes into knowing you need to give a site a break and rotate somewhere else?
If it’s sore I don’t pin it. If it’s swollen or discolored don’t pin it. If there’s a visible knot or one that can be felt with your hand don’t pin it.
I prefer to pin sites that align with the muscle im training that day. Try to keep quads on leg day. Eventually I’ll beback to using delts. Hips are always a good spot. Would also advise not pinning a site the day after its been trained.
Getbignotdietrying
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Awesome fucking write up! And bro... those are some damn big quads
Understood. I must not be pushing the injection site too much by only pinning a cc in each glute once a week. Haven't had any of those symptoms, just minor uncomfort that subsides within 24 hours.
Can only assume once you start stacking multiple cc's worth of gear, or doing daily pins, do you start overwhelming the injection site.
Yep. Volume, frequency, and technique are the factors.
But, your quad can have multiple viable sites. One or two for each hip/glute. One on each shoulder. If you’re crazy, lats and traps. Plenty of places to put it.
Larger muscle groups generally handle larger volumes better. My quads could probably manage over 3. More than about 1.5 and my delts get angry. Could probably toss 5cc in to my hip (ball of muscle on the upper, putter glute).
You should start trying the different sites though. You know you’re going to have to do them eventually anyway.
Getbignotdietrying
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None whatsoever . I feel like tpp is underrrated or just people don’t know about it. Fast ester that doesn’t cripple you. Shits priceless. Ran it last cycle smooth af all the way through.
99% you have an issue with prop ester. It can vary some but test prop seems to hit some people just like this. Sustanon contains prop. Don't ever do straight test prop, avoid sustanon and any test prop blend, be careful even with other compounds like masteron prop but you might be okay with some of those.
I have no issues with test prop or sust but plenty of others do as you can see from the few chiming in above.
For the record Sust was designed with those varying esters to be administered ONCE every 3-4 weeks and keep blood levels stable as the esters each cleared (works meh at best for this). If you use it more often than this keeping stable blood levels means injecting at the frequency of the shortest ester...proprionate so 3x per week. Of course along with the short ester you also have a decanoate ester in there with super long clearance times so sust makes little logical sense in conventional cycles and only meh for TRT. That said people do use and like it despite all of that.
Good point - I'm settled in knowing that I can hit glutes consistently. I'll try out mac's quad technique starting next week and look for some delt technique tips after that. I know I'm overthinking getting a pinning routine down, but I like to be 100% sure of what the hell I'm doing rather than have uncertainty and have a bad experience.
I’m going to warn you now; your first quad pin can be excruciatingly painful for a couple days. Start with a friendly ester. Heat it. Pin slowly. Keep it moving over the next day. Doesn’t mean it will, just can be.
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I experienced some PIP issues when I first started with new sites. I found that if I pinned 1/2 a cc into a new site (on the same day and in addition to my regularly scheduled site) it "prepped/tempered" the virgin muscle so to speak. After a few rounds of this, the site was good for some volume and no pip......
I stick to the same type of volumes that @Mac11wildcat described above. No more than 1.5 in the delts, 2 - 2.5 in each quad site (have done 3cc though) and 3cc in the VG. I rarely pin my dorsoglutes these days unless I have my girl do the injection. I always try to give every site a one week break and will skip it if something seems off. By week 8 of a short ester cycle i do often feel like a pin cushion....
@Mac11wildcat - how long of an injection is that high volume VG shot?
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