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Nice, good to see the labs are backing the GH. If the GH is g2g you can pretty much rest assured that the rest of the product line is as well.

It's also good to see another member reppin' 813.;)
I was going to say your post was reckless, however it's should be clear to all that it's just silly?
I fail to see the correlation between gh that tests out strongly to how raw steroid powders test?
Its like saying you've got a smoking hot wife of average intelligence from West Virginia who's not your sister so the girls with wide set eyes and learning disabilities that drool and poop on and in their bibs and diapers, respectively, aren't the affect of incest but rather my trolling for easy ass at the wrong Wal-Mart?
 
I was going to say your post was reckless, however it's should be clear to all that it's just silly?
I fail to see the correlation between gh that tests out strongly to how raw steroid powders test?
Its like saying you've got a smoking hot wife of average intelligence from West Virginia who's not your sister so the girls with wide set eyes and learning disabilities that drool and poop on and in their bibs and diapers, respectively, aren't the affect of incest but rather my trolling for easy ass at the wrong Wal-Mart?
If they have enough integrity to forgo cutting GH they likely have enough integrity to forgo purposely screwing people over on inexpensive AAS.

Nothing is definitive and in this business and there are obvious possible exception like Primo/Var but you get the point I'm trying to make.
 
If they have enough integrity to forgo cutting GH they likely have enough integrity to forgo purposely screwing people over on inexpensive AAS.

Nothing is definitive and in this business and there are obvious possible exception like Primo/Var but you get the point I'm trying to make.

Its the connect not the salesman we're getting here. The brainiacs synthesizing gh areen't having lunch with and most certainly aren't considered colleagues of silly motherfuckers like Astro here. Different personality types. Make sense?
 
If they have enough integrity to forgo cutting GH they likely have enough integrity to forgo purposely screwing people over on inexpensive AAS.

Nothing is definitive and in this business and there are obvious possible exception like Primo/Var but you get the point I'm trying to make.

"Forgo cutting GH"? Cut it out! How does one go about cutting gh? It's not a g of blow and just cuz u saw "New Jack City" doesn't make u the white nino brown Integrity?
GH is and has been the nightmare strong armed thieving shit of our community. Serious money kid. Not the $80 u and ur boys got together for a Friday night out and getting home by curfew to be cool with mom dukes and then beat that stick to some cyber pussy. Ha! It's ok partner.
 
Nice, good to see the labs are backing the GH. If the GH is g2g you can pretty much rest assured that the rest of the product line is as well.

It's also good to see another member reppin' 813.;)

Nah, I'm in what would be considered South Florida Mike.. Tampa is quite a ride, that's just where my sample was sent for testing.
 
We are working things out, and I am trying to convince him to run close to 2 grams of test, 800 tren, 800 Mast, 800 primo weekly for Toronto. He will also be on 100 mgs daily of winney, which he loves (another genetic thing). I also want him running 100 mgs of var daily, but he may want to do only 1 alpha alk smoothie at a time.

The Toronto Pro show is an Olympia qualifier. It takes more than anabolic steroids to be competitive at that level. Where is the hGH? Where's the insulin? Where's the SEO's? What about the training and nutrition gurus? Is this more of the usual PC bullshit or is it a case of the blind leading the blind?

Guys at that level have somebody a little more "qualified" than a dude that runs a smoothie stand managing their drug cocktails. I hope for your "IFBB pro's" sake, you're bullshitting because this is serious business. Otherwise, step away before you hurt someone.
 
Jealous much? Stretch and Gunrunner know who he is. I have done programs for North American, State (Tx champ 3 years ago) and local champions in bodybuilding and Martial arts. While you are wasting your time getting into childish arguments on the internet, I am actually in the gym or working w/ someone trying to achieve their goals.

And yes, he runs GH and slin, but I know very little about that (actually, have done my research and decided against it). He also is an expert in diuretics. We both run similar programs where aldosterone blockers, thiazides, and loop diuretics are used together in a highly structured and titrated fashion. I advocate the 11 day program which we agree upon, but where I have guys run half pills of Lasix the day/night before the show (10 mgs, one in the late afternoon, evaluate and another half 4 or so hours later etc) he crushes his tablets, wets his finger, and dabs a bit of crumbled lasix every couple of hours or so. His idea for crushing tabs is very clever, IMO, and I have stolen it. We have not discussed beta agonists or T3 yet.

He is doing Toronto, and yes it is an Olympia qualifier. He would need to bring up his one lagging body part, his back, to have a chance of getting in the top 7-8, but he is 38, and will soon be old enough to qualify for the Masters Olympia. He is only concentrating on Toronto right now, but I will be pushing him to do the Masters Olympia, which he could definitely win.

We both know how to train, obviously. He tends to favor lower carb diets, and less cardio than I do. He is about 10 steps above me in terms of his physique, but he is an awesome guy who remains teachable. That is what is so great about him, he is the opposite of the self centered arrogant prick that most bodybuilders are. He is a big believer in the 20 rep schema.

Finally, I see that I mistyped in my post above, positing that the guy carb depleted for 54 days. I meant 4-5 days.


The Toronto Pro show is an Olympia qualifier. It takes more than anabolic steroids to be competitive at that level. Where is the hGH? Where's the insulin? Where's the SEO's? What about the training and nutrition gurus? Is this more of the usual PC bullshit or is it a case of the blind leading the blind?

Guys at that level have somebody a little more "qualified" than a dude that runs a smoothie stand managing their drug cocktails. I hope for your "IFBB pro's" sake, you're bullshitting because this is serious business. Otherwise, step away before you hurt someone.
 
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"Forgo cutting GH"? Cut it out! How does one go about cutting gh? It's not a g of blow and just cuz u saw "New Jack City" doesn't make u the white nino brown Integrity?
GH is and has been the nightmare strong armed thieving shit of our community. Serious money kid. Not the $80 u and ur boys got together for a Friday night out and getting home by curfew to be cool with mom dukes and then beat that stick to some cyber pussy. Ha! It's ok partner.

I am curious as well: How does one go about "cutting" GH? That is idiocy on a Galactic level.
 
...I hope for your "IFBB pro's" sake, you're bullshitting because this is serious business. Otherwise, step away before you hurt someone.

Did you just figure this out? Are you really that ignorant? Of course it is serious business. It does not matter who designs the drug protocols, to compete on this level you must willingly risk your life. That was the first thing Chris taught me: "You must be willing to die, cease metabolism, disappear from the Earth before you can even BEGIN to think about competing." That was the message I got from him on my answering machine after I asked for his help. That is rule #1 in high level bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is more dangerous than MMA, or racing (cars, bikes, etc.). It is not about health, it is the opposite, about winning.
 
Did you just figure this out? Are you really that ignorant? Of course it is serious business. It does not matter who designs the drug protocols, to compete on this level you must willingly risk your life. That was the first thing Chris taught me: "You must be willing to die, cease metabolism, disappear from the Earth before you can even BEGIN to think about competing." That was the message I got from him on my answering machine after I asked for his help. That is rule #1 in high level bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is more dangerous than MMA, or racing (cars, bikes, etc.). It is not about health, it is the opposite, about winning.

Hmm...I wonder.

Nasser came to my gym years ago for a promo I did and stayed the week at my house.
I saw what he ate and drank and we openly discussed aas.
When we were out and people would ask about his diet he said shit like, I eat 12 chicken breasts, 10 cans of tuna and drink 3 gallons of milk.
I obviously ask why he told people that when I clearly witnessed he didn't do those things.
He said, "That's what the dumbass's want to hear so that's what I tell them."
Sounds like Chris went with the whole, "You gotta be willing to die" angle.
He probably just got done watching braveheart or something then talked to you now you're going to kill someone. Lol
 
This is a fuckin dangerous thread! I mean...posting approx. date and time a pack cleared customs or was processed through sort facility in a spacific city!

How many gave their personal address to a source with a "to good to be true" offer...proceed with caution guys. I'm sorry but I had to say it!!!!
 
Fake kits are readily available, why exactly couldn't someone rip off the stoppers from real and fake kit(s) and mix the two?

Interesting. Has anyone ever done so?

I don't know, it's a weird solid looking substance that just disintegrates once the first drop of bac water hits it. I don't know if you could cut it without fucking it up. Now fake or underdosed GH that's made that way is a different story.
 
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This is a fuckin dangerous thread! I mean...posting approx. date and time a pack cleared customs or was processed through sort facility in a spacific city!

How many gave their personal address to a source with a "to good to be true" offer...proceed with caution guys. I'm sorry but I had to say it!!!!

What do you mean Robbie? Cops don't have internet.......... :D

Good to see you two around.

Crazy hu? We're all about sharing now![:o)]
 
This is a fuckin dangerous thread! I mean...posting approx. date and time a pack cleared customs or was processed through sort facility in a spacific city!t!!!!

My jaw dropped with a couple posts in the thread, I hate seeing t/a posted
 
Would you care to translate into English what this incomprehensible sentence means? Chase Q: "He probably just got done watching braveheart or something then talked to you now you're going to kill someone. Lol" He watched Braveheart, and that makes me kill someone? What is the causation?

Ah, so Chris lied to me, and Nasser did not lie to you because you let him sleep over? Where is the logic in your assertions? Nassar wanted something from you, and Chris me.

No, Chris was not joking. I asked him about what I should eat during the last 10 days of my prep, and he said "you can eat cookies and ice cream if your diuretics are dialed in."

The phone message I referred to was the beginning of my relationship w/ Chris (no homo). He wanted to start growing marijuana. He needed seeds from Holland, and I introduced him to a local dealer. He had me eating way more calories and doing way more cardio (2 hours a day). And of course he had me running way more gear.

On Thursday night, 2 days before the show, I went over to his place, so that Joanie (Bovino, his wife) could help me w/ my posing. She worked w/ all the pros down south (CA).

There were pot plants everywhere. Chris was drinking whiskey, injecting speed, and smoking a joint. Joanie was putting me through quarter turns (she was indeed a phenomenal posing coach). Chris said "you are going to win your class, but if you want to take the overall, you need"....can't really remember, it may have been EPO. I asked "how much does it cost?" Chris said "$1500". I told him I was broke (owed my friend over 1K for gear).

Chris said, "no problem: With one call I can have three men over and they will pay $500 each to have sex with you." I said "Chris, I gave up a Rockefeller scholarship, worked as a stripper, bouncer, drug dealer. My girlfriend left me, my mom won't speak to me etc. I draw the line at having sex w/ men."

Chris takes a swig of whiskey, then a hit of the joint and says "you don't want to win bad enough."

I truly wish I were smart and creative enough to fabricate a story like this^. If I were, I would be making a fortune writing scrips for Hollywood.

Chris is indeed crazy. The gay porn thing is disturbing, but the guy never lied to me. He was interviewed a couple of years ago, and asked "you just received a pro card, and go right into gay porn.....why?" Classic Chris, he said "I did what anyone with my central nervous system would have done under the circumstances."

He helped me achieve my dream, which was to win either the Mr San Francisco or Sacramento NPC championships. He was right about winning the overall

Back to Nasser: He illustrates my point 100%. High level bodybuilding is extremely dangerous. For those that do not know, Nasser is dead.

After I won the SF, I stopped following bodybuilding. 6 months ago, I went back to see what happened to a lot of the greats that were dominating the sport. Sadly, nearly half of them are dead.


Hmm...I wonder.

Nasser came to my gym years ago for a promo I did and stayed the week at my house.
I saw what he ate and drank and we openly discussed aas.
When we were out and people would ask about his diet he said shit like, I eat 12 chicken breasts, 10 cans of tuna and drink 3 gallons of milk.
I obviously ask why he told people that when I clearly witnessed he didn't do those things.
He said, "That's what the dumbass's want to hear so that's what I tell them."
Sounds like Chris went with the whole, "You gotta be willing to die" angle.
He probably just got done watching braveheart or something then talked to you now you're going to kill someone. Lol
 
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