To Meso Vets

[bigrobbie]

What do you mean Robbie? Cops don't have internet..........

LOL!!!! How ya been bro?

 

[bigrobbie]

Good to see you two around.

Crazy hu? We're all about sharing now![)]

Yes...a little! You been well Chase?

 

[ChaseQ]

The only assertion Ive made is that youre full of shit. Want empirical proof? Just read the BS you post.

Ya just stick with your whole "Gotta be willing to die bro" because it doesnt make you sound like a clown.

Would you care to translate into English what this incomprehensible sentence means? Chase Q: "He probably just got done watching braveheart or something then talked to you now you're going to kill someone. Lol" He watched Braveheart, and that makes me kill someone? What is the causation?

Ah, so Chris lied to me, and Nasser did not lie to you because you let him sleep over? Where is the logic in your assertions? Nassar wanted something from you, and Chris me.

No, Chris was not joking. I asked him about what I should eat during the last 10 days of my prep, and he said "you can eat cookies and ice cream if your diuretics are dialed in."

The phone message I referred to was the beginning of my relationship w/ Chris (no homo). He wanted to start growing marijuana. He needed seeds from Holland, and I introduced him to a local dealer. He had me eating way more calories and doing way more cardio (2 hours a day). And of course he had me running way more gear.

On Thursday night, 2 days before the show, I went over to his place, so that Joanie (Bovino, his wife) could help me w/ my posing. She worked w/ all the pros down south (CA).

There were pot plants everywhere. Chris was drinking whiskey, injecting speed, and smoking a joint. Joanie was putting me through quarter turns (she was indeed a phenomenal posing coach). Chris said "you are going to win your class, but if you want to take the overall, you need"....can't really remember, it may have been EPO. I asked "how much does it cost?" Chris said "$1500". I told him I was broke (owed my friend over 1K for gear).

Chris said, "no problem: With one call I can have three men over and they will pay $500 each to have sex with you." I said "Chris, I gave up a Rockefeller scholarship, worked as a stripper, bouncer, drug dealer. My girlfriend left me, my mom won't speak to me etc. I draw the line at having sex w/ men."

Chris takes a swig of whiskey, then a hit of the joint and says "you don't want to win bad enough."

I truly wish I were smart and creative enough to fabricate a story like this^. If I were, I would be making a fortune writing scrips for Hollywood.

Chris is indeed crazy. The gay porn thing is disturbing, but the guy never lied to me. He was interviewed a couple of years ago, and asked "you just received a pro card, and go right into gay porn.....why?" Classic Chris, he said "I did what anyone with my central nervous system would have done under the circumstances."

He helped me achieve my dream, which was to win either the Mr San Francisco or Sacramento NPC championships. He was right about winning the overall

Back to Nasser: He illustrates my point 100%. High level bodybuilding is extremely dangerous. For those that do not know, Nasser is dead.

After I won the SF, I stopped following bodybuilding. 6 months ago, I went back to see what happened to a lot of the greats that were dominating the sport. Sadly, nearly half of them are dead.

 

[Sworder]

LOL!!!! How ya been bro?

Been busy as hell but good, gotta get off the computer soon to go train then sleep. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to be on the forums as much as I want but that will hopefully change too.

How about you?

 

[ChaseQ]

Yes...a little! You been well Chase?

Good. Getting caught of on the entertainment?

 

[Sworder]

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Interesting. Has anyone ever done so?

I have no idea. I've always attributed underdosed name brand GH to being caused by suppliers mixing fake/real kits or a replica manufactures cutting real GH with whatever filler is used in bunk kits.

That's just my guess. Maybe someone else has more info.

 

[bigrobbie]

Been busy as hell but good, gotta get off the computer soon to go train then sleep. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to be on the forums as much as I want but that will hopefully change too.

How about you?

Same pretty much...I'll be round here more....look out for me.

 

[Kubrick]

Would you care to translate into English what this incomprehensible sentence means? Chase Q: "He probably just got done watching braveheart or something then talked to you now you're going to kill someone. Lol" He watched Braveheart, and that makes me kill someone? What is the causation?

Ah, so Chris lied to me, and Nasser did not lie to you because you let him sleep over? Where is the logic in your assertions? Nassar wanted something from you, and Chris me.

No, Chris was not joking. I asked him about what I should eat during the last 10 days of my prep, and he said "you can eat cookies and ice cream if your diuretics are dialed in."

The phone message I referred to was the beginning of my relationship w/ Chris (no homo). He wanted to start growing marijuana. He needed seeds from Holland, and I introduced him to a local dealer. He had me eating way more calories and doing way more cardio (2 hours a day). And of course he had me running way more gear.

On Thursday night, 2 days before the show, I went over to his place, so that Joanie (Bovino, his wife) could help me w/ my posing. She worked w/ all the pros down south (CA).

There were pot plants everywhere. Chris was drinking whiskey, injecting speed, and smoking a joint. Joanie was putting me through quarter turns (she was indeed a phenomenal posing coach). Chris said "you are going to win your class, but if you want to take the overall, you need"....can't really remember, it may have been EPO. I asked "how much does it cost?" Chris said "$1500". I told him I was broke (owed my friend over 1K for gear).

Chris said, "no problem: With one call I can have three men over and they will pay $500 each to have sex with you." I said "Chris, I gave up a Rockefeller scholarship, worked as a stripper, bouncer, drug dealer. My girlfriend left me, my mom won't speak to me etc. I draw the line at having sex w/ men."

Chris takes a swig of whiskey, then a hit of the joint and says "you don't want to win bad enough."

I truly wish I were smart and creative enough to fabricate a story like this^. If I were, I would be making a fortune writing scrips for Hollywood.

Chris is indeed crazy. The gay porn thing is disturbing, but the guy never lied to me. He was interviewed a couple of years ago, and asked "you just received a pro card, and go right into gay porn.....why?" Classic Chris, he said "I did what anyone with my central nervous system would have done under the circumstances."

He helped me achieve my dream, which was to win either the Mr San Francisco or Sacramento NPC championships. He was right about winning the overall

Back to Nasser: He illustrates my point 100%. High level bodybuilding is extremely dangerous. For those that do not know, Nasser is dead.

After I won the SF, I stopped following bodybuilding. 6 months ago, I went back to see what happened to a lot of the greats that were dominating the sport. Sadly, nearly half of them are dead.

Wtf? Are you being serious?

 

[bigrobbie]

Good. Getting caught of on the entertainment?

Yuppers! Gonna try and stop in more...

 

[ChaseQ]

Wtf? Are you being serious?

Actually he is. Stick around this isnt anything for Pericles. As my grandfather use to say, "That guy sure can spin a yarn." Translated for you young guys that means, "Hes full of shit."[)]

Now dont get all butthurt on me Pericles, you know Im just busting your balls a little and these new guys deserve a heads up.

 

[bigrobbie]

Would you care to translate into English what this incomprehensible sentence means? Chase Q: "He probably just got done watching braveheart or something then talked to you now you're going to kill someone. Lol" He watched Braveheart, and that makes me kill someone? What is the causation?

Ah, so Chris lied to me, and Nasser did not lie to you because you let him sleep over? Where is the logic in your assertions? Nassar wanted something from you, and Chris me.

No, Chris was not joking. I asked him about what I should eat during the last 10 days of my prep, and he said "you can eat cookies and ice cream if your diuretics are dialed in."

The phone message I referred to was the beginning of my relationship w/ Chris (no homo). He wanted to start growing marijuana. He needed seeds from Holland, and I introduced him to a local dealer. He had me eating way more calories and doing way more cardio (2 hours a day). And of course he had me running way more gear.

On Thursday night, 2 days before the show, I went over to his place, so that Joanie (Bovino, his wife) could help me w/ my posing. She worked w/ all the pros down south (CA).

There were pot plants everywhere. Chris was drinking whiskey, injecting speed, and smoking a joint. Joanie was putting me through quarter turns (she was indeed a phenomenal posing coach). Chris said "you are going to win your class, but if you want to take the overall, you need"....can't really remember, it may have been EPO. I asked "how much does it cost?" Chris said "$1500". I told him I was broke (owed my friend over 1K for gear).

Chris said, "no problem: With one call I can have three men over and they will pay $500 each to have sex with you." I said "Chris, I gave up a Rockefeller scholarship, worked as a stripper, bouncer, drug dealer. My girlfriend left me, my mom won't speak to me etc. I draw the line at having sex w/ men."

Chris takes a swig of whiskey, then a hit of the joint and says "you don't want to win bad enough."

I truly wish I were smart and creative enough to fabricate a story like this^. If I were, I would be making a fortune writing scrips for Hollywood.

Chris is indeed crazy. The gay porn thing is disturbing, but the guy never lied to me. He was interviewed a couple of years ago, and asked "you just received a pro card, and go right into gay porn.....why?" Classic Chris, he said "I did what anyone with my central nervous system would have done under the circumstances."

He helped me achieve my dream, which was to win either the Mr San Francisco or Sacramento NPC championships. He was right about winning the overall

Back to Nasser: He illustrates my point 100%. High level bodybuilding is extremely dangerous. For those that do not know, Nasser is dead.

After I won the SF, I stopped following bodybuilding. 6 months ago, I went back to see what happened to a lot of the greats that were dominating the sport. Sadly, nearly half of them are dead.

 

[ChaseQ]

And this is why I missed you my friend![)][)]

You and Sworder should hit up Naps on his offer. Both your opinions would be a huge benefit.

 

[bigrobbie]

I'm a bit nervous with naps.....

 

[ChaseQ]

I'm a bit nervous with naps.....

Really?

A particular brand they carry or Naps in general?

 

[bigrobbie]

I dunno, just this entire deal seems sketchy....I'm gonna pass. I've got a gold domestic and I'm gtg. Let me know how its going though...

Hey is billydidit or someanddone still hanging around?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Actually he is. Stick around this isnt anything for Pericles. As my grandfather use to say, "That guy sure can spin a yarn." Translated for you young guys that means, "Hes full of shit."[)]

PC's bullshit reminds me of a bad case of crabs you can never really get rid of. Ignore it and before long it's out of control and you're scratching incessantly. You have to hit it with the "shampoo" once in a while to keep it under control.

Now dont get all butthurt on me Pericles, you know Im just busting your balls a little and these new guys deserve a heads up.

Good idea. Some of the younger guys might take him seriously and go broke trying to pay for all the gear and astroglide they'll need to go pro.

 

[ChaseQ]

I dunno, just this entire deal seems sketchy....I'm gonna pass. I've got a gold domestic and I'm gtg. Let me know how its going though...

Hey is billydidit or someanddone still hanging around?

No havent seen them recently. Ill let ya know how the Naps thing goes.

Good idea. Some of the younger guys might take him seriously and go broke trying to pay for all the gear and astroglide they'll need to go pro.

Well played my friend...well played.[)][)]

 

[Pericles]

I have no idea. I've always attributed underdosed name brand GH to being caused by suppliers mixing fake/real kits or a replica manufactures cutting real GH with whatever filler is used in bunk kits.

That's just my guess. Maybe someone else has more info.

I am certainly no expert on Growth, I have done some research and decided to take the plunge. I am doing so for the anti aging, fatburning, and tendon strengthening. If I gain a few pounds of muscle, that will be a plus.

I never really thought about semi-bunk or reduced strength GH. I was under the impression that it was either good, or fake.

Having said that, your idea does make sense until we get into the details.

As Johny said, GH powder is extremely fragile. It would take a ton of skill to cut/mix. Does anyone have a definitive answer?

 

[Pericles]

PC's bullshit reminds me of a bad case of crabs you can never really get rid of. Ignore it and before long it's out of control and you're scratching incessantly. You have to hit it with the "shampoo" once in a while to keep it under control.

Good idea. Some of the younger guys might take him seriously and go broke trying to pay for all the gear and astroglide they'll need to go pro.

I don't work w/ young guys (under 25). I have also said this many, many times. Here is how cycles are run by competitors, especially pros. They get as much gear as they can find and afford. They buy it, and then design the program. Why do you think the same 5=7 guys keep dominating? It is because they have the money to stay on top.

What top guys do is very dangerous and unhealthy. Nasser is dead, Sonny Schmidt is dead. Munzer, Benaziza, dead. Mentzer died at 44 (yes he used rec drugs, but the gear was the cause of his cardiovascular disease which killed him). Teufil, dead, Kline (yes he killed himself, but his kidney failed which drove his decision to end his life). Benavente (30, heart attack). Durr, Leffler, Atwood, Youngblood, Whitset, Kawak, Wood, Johns.