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I just wanted to keep everyone updated. Im currently talking with Naps and trying to decide what the best course of action is at this point.

I appreciate him replying to the situation and providing an explanation. I think its respectable. Ive discussed the details with my friend also. (Who is out of the hospital and doing good.)

I will update you guys on what happens with Naps.

Also, I want you all to know my friend greatly appreciates the well wishes from you all. I try to keep him up to date on the thread. The guy is old school so technology scares him.:D Be safe guys!
 
Looks like a little damage control by Naps is going to smooth things over with a lot of would-be Geneza users. I find that pretty amazing, especially considering he admitted they have an unresolved safety issue. Why isn't there a recall notice on their board?

When Naps showed up offering free gear I did some research on their products, and decided to stay away. This is definitely not their first encounter with contamination, and not just with T400 and Primo. Infection from Geneza prop was reported here on Meso in 2011. In "Underground Anabolics" by W. Llewellyn published in 2010, Geneza products were tested with very inconsistent results, from gtg to bunk to contaminated with bacteria.

I think anyone continuing to use Naps gear is taking an extraordinary risk. This is different from labs like STP only by degree. In effect, this could end up harming a lot more people. Actually, it already has.
 
flenser said:
Infection from Geneza prop was reported here on Meso in 2011. In "Underground Anabolics" by W. Llewellyn published in 2010,
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It was Undeground Anabolics book from 2010 and the product was Test Suspension. Almost all the UG labs tested in this book had bacteria in water suspensions. We later tested Test Suspension at the same laboratory the Llewellyn and Ronny Tober were testing and the the product came totally clear. The test was done by Ronny Tober. Here is the link:
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flenser said:
Geneza products were tested with very inconsistent results, from gtg to bunk to contaminated with bacteria.
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Let's be honest here ok? I respect any opinion but you need to back up your words or there is no discussion. Show me one other lab test of the bunk or contaminated gear!
We are no worse than any other UG lab on the market. In the end there are the same Chinese raw suppliers, the same brewing technology, the same everything for every UG Lab. The only major difference is we are huge and our 1% of unhappy customers is a lot more people then 10% from a smaller lab. May be we should have kept the product line standard and have not started experimenting with blends and high concentration hormones but its another story.
 
naps said:
Let's be honest here ok? I respect any opinion but you need to back up your words or there is no discussion. Show me one other lab test of the bunk or contaminated gear!
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I got that info from a veteran on another forum and took it at face value. At the time it was only for my own consideration of whether to purchase from you, and I posted it here based on memory alone. I apologize for posting unconfirmed information.

However, the question remains why you have not recalled the gear that was contaminated. I checked your site this morning and there was no mention of it. 2K vials per month has to be going to a lot of people. Assuming you're not storing all your customer's email addresses to send them alerts, there are lots of people with your suspect gear who don't know there is a danger. Are you just going to wait to see which ones report infections?
 
Read the Geneza injectables started by pericles! The test e/deca caused him troubles and I had to stay home yesterday from the pain/knots on both quads! Its is not just 1 or 2 products!
 
For some reason I only see this thread come up on tapatalk! Unsure why that is but it is "warning geneza injectables"
 
searay said:
Read the Geneza injectables started by pericles! The test e/deca caused him troubles and I had to stay home yesterday from the pain/knots on both quads! Its is not just 1 or 2 products!
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I hadn't seen that thread when I posted before. From reading this one, I got the impression everyone was in forgive and forget mode. Looks like the "1% unhappy customers" are all congregating on the same thread. I'm glad others are speaking up.
 
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Stretch said:
I got Geneza orals for my sample.

Superdrol and Halo. Two very expensive, and commonly faked orals.

I gave both to trusted friends that I know in real life, and who have run these compounds before.

That was about 5 days ago, and I just spoke to both of my friends. They both are very happy with the products thus far. Both are experiencing massive strength gains, without noticeable water retention. They both believe the products to be legit.

I've heard mixed reviews on Geneza's orals, but every time someone I know closely has run them, they've been very happy.

I saved a few tabs of the Halo, and a little more than a few of the Superdrol. So I will be able to give both a short run personally also. But, I just wanted to post what I've discovered thus far.
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Thanks stretch for the update. Do you know how much daily dose of Superdrol they are running? Multiple dose thru day or one?
 
flenser said:
I got that info from a veteran on another forum and took it at face value. At the time it was only for my own consideration of whether to purchase from you, and I posted it here based on memory alone. I apologize for posting unconfirmed information.

However, the question remains why you have not recalled the gear that was contaminated. I checked your site this morning and there was no mention of it. 2K vials per month has to be going to a lot of people. Assuming you're not storing all your customer's email addresses to send them alerts, there are lots of people with your suspect gear who don't know there is a danger. Are you just going to wait to see which ones report infections?
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Why would I recall it if only a few persons had issues with the product. I took that product off the website and replaced to everyone who complained. There were 7 cases with T400, 1 with Primo 200, 3 with Test E/ Deca mix. This is out of a thousand of orders. I don't believe it's contamination, we tested these batches for sterility many many times. I will test it again by the way and I would recommend an independent testing for bacteria for the guys who have these products. They will be sterile. I believe what happened is a personal reaction. I have yet to see high resolution pics of the floaters and make sure it's not the crystals. I've asked the member here to provide me with some pics.
Please do not PM me with every GP product replacement. The only products that could possibly be an issue are T400, Prima 200, and some high concentration blends like Test E / Deca. Our standard product line like Test E, Prop, Deca, EQ etc are one of the smoothest on the market!
 
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naps said:
Why would I recall it if only a few persons had issues with the product. I took that product off the website and replaced to everyone who complained. There were 7 cases with T400, 1 with Primo 200, 3 with Test E/ Deca mix. This is out of a thousand of orders. I don't believe it's contamination, we tested these batches for sterility many many times. I will test it again by the way and I would recommend an independent testing for bacteria for the guys who have these products. They will be sterile. I believe what happened is a personal reaction. I have yet to see high resolution pics of the floaters and make sure it's not the crystals. I've asked the member here to provide me with some pics.
Please do not PM me with every GP product replacement. The only products that could possibly be an issue are T400, Prima 200, and some high concentration blends like Test E / Deca. Our standard product line like Test E, Prop, Deca, EQ etc are one of the smoothest on the market!
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