Tore labrum

[GIVEitUP]

Well I just got the news no more cortzon shots must have surgery to fix Dr saying 6 weeks before any lifting and it could be up to 3 months before any real heavy lifting just curious if anybody had experience with this

 

[Dr JIM]

Heavy lifting in 3 months!

Provisos aside chances are he’s telling you what you want the hear, bc most tears “requiring surgery” mandate a SIX MONTH recovery interval before reasonable stability can be ensured.

Jim

 

[GIVEitUP]

Heavy lifting in 3 months!

Provisos aside chances are he’s telling you what you want the hear, bc most tears “requiring surgery” mandate a SIX MONTH recovery interval before reasonable stability can be ensured.

Jim

Damn 6 months definitely didn't want to hear that thanks for the info though

 

[Dr JIM]

Yea and the Doc knows that also!

So many tend to give patients the best case scenerio, followed by we shall see how things go.

I’m a big supporter of operative intervention bc it often does improve outcomes when used on a selective basis.

But few folk get what they want a NORMAL shoulder.

I will tell you those who don’t push their recovery and allow full healing to occur have much better result in the long term.

 

[Gymjunkie70]

If you feel heavy lifting is ten pounds on the hammer strength incline press is heavy then yes.You maybe lifting heavy again but for me it was around 9-10 months.The only reason I went to the gym after 4 months was that I couldn’t fucking take it anymore.Worked my way back to 315 on incline bench around 10 months after surgery.This was about 5 years ago.

 

[Dr JIM]

If you feel heavy lifting is ten pounds on the hammer strength incline press is heavy then yes.You maybe lifting heavy again but for me it was around 9-10 months.The only reason I went to the gym after 4 months was that I couldn’t fucking take it anymore.Worked my way back to 315 on incline bench around 10 months after surgery.This was about 5 years ago.

Oh I understand perfectly bc having my Grade III/IV Slap tear
repaired made a huge difference.

BUT the kicker is/was I simply had to accept the fact I would never be able to reach my pretear / repair max! (Which is a hell of a lot better than not being able to lift AT ALL)

There ARE surgical and cell based reasons for this change but suffice it to say the surgical repair of a torn labrum does NOT allow it to return to its normal position, thickness, or angulation etc.

That being said a high grade labrum tear is much worse as it allows the humeral head to sublux within the shoulder joint

And persistent subluxation results in further damage and ultimately an unstable shoulder.

The latter is seen in folk who continue to lift in spite of shoulder
pain/problems.

As I mentioned earlier give your recovery SIX MONTHS, no less, before pushing the limits of a labral tear fella

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh and guess the majority age range of those requiring shoulder stabilizing surgery?


A) 20-30
B) 30-40
C) 40-50
D) 50-60

 

[Logan44551]

Oh and guess the majority age range of those requiring shoulder stabilizing surgery?


A) 20-30
B) 30-40
C) 40-50
D) 50-60

C?

 

[GIVEitUP]

I appreciate all the advice I'm almost in tears reading this that's along time with out the gym in my life training is my rock
Guess I'll have to work legs no squats just leg presses and extension s

 

[Dr JIM]

C?

Yep!

It’s belueved and to some extent proven many with shoulder instability start the process with shoulder impingement syndrome that ultimately extends toward and stresses the biceps tendon at its attachment with the labrum.

The net effect is a labral tear years down the line.

 

[Dr JIM]

1) I appreciate all the advice I'm almost in tears reading this that's along time with out the gym in my life training is my rock

2) Guess I'll have to work legs no squats just leg presses and extension s

Yep your destined to ride a treadmill with everyone else but
you can still sit on the bench press

Of course that’s NOT what I’m suggesting BUT you must avoid like a F...ing plague those exercises that stress the labrum !

And that means what exactly?

Absolutely and unequivocally
stay away from the following
1) military BAR presses !!!!
2) incline BAR bench press
3) flat BAR bench press

To that end I’d advise you to KISS
any form of military press GOODBYE, since as an exercise they stress the labrum more than any other!

And while DUMBELL bench presses still stress the shoulder joint they do so to a lesser extent BARBELL benches.

At three months no less the use of LIGHT DUMBELL presses maybe reasonable BUT a IMO a spotter is mandatory should something “give”.

Folk simply don’t “lose it all” in six months, unless they become couch potatoes, and the recovery
is swift in the majority of experienced lifters IME.

Chances are you will lose a lot more doing nothing,compared to surgery/recovety and six months of rehab.

To that end it’s not surprising a common complaint heard from those whom are several months post-op; I wish I would have fixed this damn shoulder SOONER !

Jim

 

[GIVEitUP]

Yep your destined to ride a treadmill with everyone else but
you can still sit on the bench press

Of course that’s NOT what I’m suggesting BUT you must avoid like a F...ing plague those exercises that stress the labrum !

And that means what exactly?

Absolutely and unequivocally
stay away from the following
1) military BAR presses !!!!
2) incline BAR bench press
3) flat BAR bench press

To that end I’d advise you to KISS
any form of military press GOODBYE, since as an exercise they stress the labrum more than any other!

And while DUMBELL bench presses still stress the shoulder joint they do so to a lesser extent BARBELL benches.

At three months no less the use of LIGHT DUMBELL presses maybe reasonable BUT a IMO a spotter is mandatory should something “give”.

Folk simply don’t “lose it all” in six months, unless they become couch potatoes, and the recovery
is swift in the majority of experienced lifters IME.

Chances are you will lose a lot more doing nothing,compared to surgery/recovety and six months of rehab.

To that end it’s not surprising a common complaint heard from those whom are several months post-op; I wish I would have fixed this damn shoulder SOONER !

Jim

Thanks so how about working arms

 

[al'sameesh]

Yep your destined to ride a treadmill with everyone else but
you can still sit on the bench press

Of course that’s NOT what I’m suggesting BUT you must avoid like a F...ing plague those exercises that stress the labrum !

And that means what exactly?

Absolutely and unequivocally
stay away from the following
1) military BAR presses !!!!
2) incline BAR bench press
3) flat BAR bench press

To that end I’d advise you to KISS
any form of military press GOODBYE, since as an exercise they stress the labrum more than any other!

And while DUMBELL bench presses still stress the shoulder joint they do so to a lesser extent BARBELL benches.

At three months no less the use of LIGHT DUMBELL presses maybe reasonable BUT a IMO a spotter is mandatory should something “give”.

Folk simply don’t “lose it all” in six months, unless they become couch potatoes, and the recovery
is swift in the majority of experienced lifters IME.

Chances are you will lose a lot more doing nothing,compared to surgery/recovety and six months of rehab.

To that end it’s not surprising a common complaint heard from those whom are several months post-op; I wish I would have fixed this damn shoulder SOONER !

Jim

Do you mean standing shoulder press when you say military press? Ive never seen it lumped into the same catergory as benching as far as shoulder risk goes.

 

[stevonov]

just got mri superior labral tear with posterior and anterior extension. supraspinatus and subscapularis tendinosis. subacromial subdeltoid bursitis. intra articular long head of the biceps tendinosis and tenosynovitis. guess deca wont be enough to make this pain go away?