Transferring oils for long term storage

[AllGoodThings]

Really neat project. How much of this project is just because you are a collector? Similar to baseball cards.

Is there any chance you actually use even 75% of this gear?

Do you think there is a significant risk of not being able to find these in 3 years? (If you look at availability over the past 50 years it's just getting easier and easier to get these compounds). This shortage is temporary. As long as demand exists people will find a way to supply.

When it freezes does it expand much? Is there a risk of vial rupture?

Assuming these compounds are available 3 years from now you would rather use your frozen old stuff rather than fresh? Or will you trash these and buy new stuff.

If this truly is the end - and these are unavailable forever - this is a big brain move.

It's mostly a mindset thing. I wouldn't consider myself a collector, as nearly all of my hobbies have a practical application. The rationale behind this is partly that I like to have things that I use and consider important in adequate supply at all times. I can't know what the future holds for the PED market, but I know that most everything I bought is already more expensive than it was when I bought it. That's not to say prices won't come down again, but I'm happy with the prices I paid. I also don't like the idea of only having small amounts of what I like to take, and being at the mercy of price increases, shortages, quality concerns, and other annoyances, even if they are temporary.

I suspect I will eventually be able to get through the vast majority of what I have, maybe not all of the test though. Depends on how long my health permits moderate AAS use without too much risk.

Oil actually contracts when frozen. I believe water is unique in its property of expanding when in a solid state, so no worries with ruptured vials.

I don't plan to trash anything, and would trust the quality and potency of freezer stored AAS nearly equally to freshly made product. Degradation of the API and oxidation of the oil is at a near standstill when stored at these temperatures, which is the whole point.

I don't think AAS is going anywhere, but the fact that we could face similar shortages and price hikes in the future was enough reason for me to secure my supply and not have to worry about it again. Peace of mind

 

[Ateam2023]

I had a misprint, I didn't label what type of Masteron this was in my first picture. My ocd got me , lol

 

[AllGoodThings]

I had a misprint, I didn't label what type of Masteron this was in my first picture. My ocd got me , lol View attachment 360129

I'd have done the same thing. I've been considering redoing a ton of my labels as I really prefer using the proper drug name, so I'd relabel those to "Drostanolone Enanthate 200mg/ml" for example. I have a mix of both right now, and it's driving me crazy!

 

[AlexDavis43]

I'd have done the same thing. I've been considering redoing a ton of my labels as I really prefer using the proper drug name, so I'd relabel those to "Drostanolone Enanthate 200mg/ml" for example. I have a mix of both right now, and it's driving me crazy!

You really are nuts dude xD

 

[AllGoodThings]

You really are nuts dude xD

I know. I think I get points or something for knowing? I think knowing I'm nuts means I'm less nuts than other nuts??

 

[Ateam2023]

I know. I think I get points or something for knowing? I think knowing I'm nuts means I'm less nuts than other nuts??

Coocoocoocooo

 

[AllGoodThings]

Coocoocoocooo

 

[AllGoodThings]

Today I started the arduous tasks of prepping ~350 vials for freezer storage. I want to take this opportunity to thank the sources that pay the slight premium in price to offer top quality stoppers and seals/caps. The amount of time it takes to apply the sticker seals is hugely reduced when I don't have to use my fingernail to push down a bunch of sharp metal protrusions from Every. Single. Vial. It gets really old. It absolutely has affected who I buy from now as most of what I buy now is getting the long term storage treatment.

Here's an example of a poor quality cap:



Of the ~350, I only got 50 vials prepped today, all mast prop:



Here's an interesting update on some previously frozen vials. The tren ace from one source has a homogenous look, while another looks almost like tapioca pudding with patches of white and yellow spread throughout. Both are 100mg/ml, but the homogeneous one is in GSO, while the patchy one is in MCT. I don't imagine this is in any way relevant to anything of concern, but I still found it interesting. All tren A examples from each source were nearly identical to the ones shown here:

 

[Ateam2023]

Today I started the arduous tasks of prepping ~350 vials for freezer storage. I want to take this opportunity to thank the sources that pay the slight premium in price to offer top quality stoppers and seals/caps. The amount of time it takes to apply the sticker seals is hugely reduced when I don't have to use my fingernail to push down a bunch of sharp metal protrusions from Every. Single. Vial. It gets really old. It absolutely has affected who I buy from now as most of what I buy now is getting the long term storage treatment.

Here's an example of a poor quality cap:

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Of the ~350, I only got 50 vials prepped today, all mast prop:

View attachment 361081

Here's an interesting update on some previously frozen vials. The tren ace from one source has a homogenous look, while another looks almost like tapioca pudding with patches of white and yellow spread throughout. Both are 100mg/ml, but the homogeneous one is in GSO, while the patchy one is in MCT. I don't imagine this is in any way relevant to anything of concern, but I still found it interesting. All tren A examples from each source were nearly identical to the ones shown here:

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Those poor quality with silicone stoppers, you are leaving it in those vials?

 

[AllGoodThings]

Those poor quality with silicone stoppers, you are leaving it in those vials?

I actually see them as a possible benefit when freezing, which is the only application I think they have any chance of being superior in. Since the BB within the vial won't have any contact with the stopper as they'll be frozen upright, the leeching issue is of little to no concern. The benefit I see is that silicon is superior to other stopper materials in its ability to deal with both low and high temps. I see silicon as being the least likely stopper material to shrink and compromise the vial seal.

 

[trtchin]

Sterile Vial Seals

Sterile Vial Seal Stickers, Latex free, Protects point of entry, Helps protect reconstituted solution. Tamper-Evident Seal.

happypeptides.com

Love this thread thank you.

Anyone have an EU source for the sterile vial seals? Checking around with no luck so far.

 

[Photon]

Love this thread thank you.

Anyone have an EU source for the sterile vial seals? Checking around with no luck so far.

Buy this.
1000 seals (27$?)

Post in thread '(US) Long term stash planning BIG Thread'

Aug 22, 2025

I figured this would be the place to share this. I was looking for vial seals, and stumbled upon this crazy deal. Most every place I looked, a box of 1000 20mm seals was around $130-$180, depending on brand. I found a place selling one particular brand and color for $17.08. The quantity said box of 1000, but I was convinced it had to be too good to be true. I took a screenshot of everything in case I needed to do a return, and then placed the order. It says out of stock, but allows you to place the backorder anyhow. With shipping, it came to $26.57. I did get an email after the initial...

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Find a freight forwarder to EU (20/30$?)

 

[trtchin]

Buy this.
1000 seals (27$?)

Post in thread '(US) Long term stash planning BIG Thread'

Aug 22, 2025

I figured this would be the place to share this. I was looking for vial seals, and stumbled upon this crazy deal. Most every place I looked, a box of 1000 20mm seals was around $130-$180, depending on brand. I found a place selling one particular brand and color for $17.08. The quantity said box of 1000, but I was convinced it had to be too good to be true. I took a screenshot of everything in case I needed to do a return, and then placed the order. It says out of stock, but allows you to place the backorder anyhow. With shipping, it came to $26.57. I did get an email after the initial...

• AllGoodThings

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Find a freight forwarder to EU (20/30$?)

Seems they actually ship internationally. At this price customs shouldn't be too bad. Thanks.

 

[Gonz0]

After seeing all the cool blends you have made I decided to mix some of my open vials into a “cruise” blend so no tren. Just test e , deca , and test p. @AllGoodThings thanks for the inspiration, I was kinda freaked out that everything wouldn’t mix together properly but after a quick shake everything is nice and homogenized, definitely looking forward to doing this on a larger scale for future blasts.

 

[AllbrandNew]

For shits and giggles, I just finished prepping a kit of tren A to see if argon has any impact on oxidation. I left 2 of the kit untouched, and one of each will be stored in the fridge just to see how the do comparatively, where the remainder including the second virgin vial all went in the freezer.

Short version: drew 20ml of vacuum on the vials, and then filled with argon via a 25ga needle, .22um filter and some tubing and connectors. Had to make some modifications to the argon can straw to seal with a tubing adapter, but otherwise was cake. I primed the filter and tube prior to inserting into the vial and ran pressure as I punctured, and kept the needle end up when not in use. I ran the argon until I could hear a pressure leak back at the straw/can and pulled the contraption and wiped down then sealed the vials.

Will be interesting to see if it makes a difference long term, but it didn't take long at all so what the hell. Amateur tip: zip tie all the tubing connections or they will pop off from the back pressure of the filter/needle. Thankfully dry runs caught that straight away so I didn't have to redo any of the vials.




I put the lowest level vial in the fridge with the argon fill so that should give it the most coverage for comparison sake. All the others are much closer in fill levels, so I figured this would be the one to keep an eye on first as it should have a deeper 'layer' of argon. Don't think it'd make much difference, but that's the one I used.

We shall see.

 

[maddie]

For shits and giggles, I just finished prepping a kit of tren A to see if argon has any impact on oxidation. I left 2 of the kit untouched, and one of each will be stored in the fridge just to see how the do comparatively, where the remainder including the second virgin vial all went in the freezer.

Short version: drew 20ml of vacuum on the vials, and then filled with argon via a 25ga needle, .22um filter and some tubing and connectors. Had to make some modifications to the argon can straw to seal with a tubing adapter, but otherwise was cake. I primed the filter and tube prior to inserting into the vial and ran pressure as I punctured, and kept the needle end up when not in use. I ran the argon until I could hear a pressure leak back at the straw/can and pulled the contraption and wiped down then sealed the vials.

Will be interesting to see if it makes a difference long term, but it didn't take long at all so what the hell. Amateur tip: zip tie all the tubing connections or they will pop off from the back pressure of the filter/needle. Thankfully dry runs caught that straight away so I didn't have to redo any of the vials.

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I put the lowest level vial in the fridge with the argon fill so that should give it the most coverage for comparison sake. All the others are much closer in fill levels, so I figured this would be the one to keep an eye on first as it should have a deeper 'layer' of argon. Don't think it'd make much difference, but that's the one I used.

We shall see.

How long do you plan on storing these? Are you going to freeze them? If its MCT oil it seems like it would last a while without doing anything. Transferring and freezing seems to be for long term storage. I'm curious to see the argon filled vial and the possibility of a longer storage time with minimal oxidation.

 

[AllbrandNew]

How long do you plan on storing these? Are you going to freeze them? If its MCT oil it seems like it would last a while without doing anything. Transferring and freezing seems to be for long term storage. I'm curious to see the argon filled vial and the possibility of a longer storage time with minimal oxidation.

All MCT. 8 of the kit are in the freezer, and I don't expect to touch them for a few years at least, as I have enough of what I am using to last a good while. The other two are in the fridge, more to compare how they'd be stored for 'normal' long term storage, with the understanding that it may slow down the appearance of any differences.

If there is an appreciable difference over however long it takes, I may opt to buy quality vacuum sealed vials next time and just fill them with argon first and then transfer the oils to the argon filled vials for a simpler long long term solution.

Given tren seems to be the most apt to oxidize, this was a good place to start I think.

 

[maddie]

All MCT. 8 of the kit are in the freezer, and I don't expect to touch them for a few years at least, as I have enough of what I am using to last a good while. The other two are in the fridge, more to compare how they'd be stored for 'normal' long term storage, with the understanding that it may slow down the appearance of any differences.

If there is an appreciable difference over however long it takes, I may opt to buy quality vacuum sealed vials next time and just fill them with argon first and then transfer the oils to the argon filled vials for a simpler long long term solution.

Given tren seems to be the most apt to oxidize, this was a good place to start I think.

awesome! I appreciate you sharing. Anything to help with long term storage especially with any shortages.

 

[AllGoodThings]

For shits and giggles, I just finished prepping a kit of tren A to see if argon has any impact on oxidation. I left 2 of the kit untouched, and one of each will be stored in the fridge just to see how the do comparatively, where the remainder including the second virgin vial all went in the freezer.

Short version: drew 20ml of vacuum on the vials, and then filled with argon via a 25ga needle, .22um filter and some tubing and connectors. Had to make some modifications to the argon can straw to seal with a tubing adapter, but otherwise was cake. I primed the filter and tube prior to inserting into the vial and ran pressure as I punctured, and kept the needle end up when not in use. I ran the argon until I could hear a pressure leak back at the straw/can and pulled the contraption and wiped down then sealed the vials.

Will be interesting to see if it makes a difference long term, but it didn't take long at all so what the hell. Amateur tip: zip tie all the tubing connections or they will pop off from the back pressure of the filter/needle. Thankfully dry runs caught that straight away so I didn't have to redo any of the vials.

View attachment 367137


I put the lowest level vial in the fridge with the argon fill so that should give it the most coverage for comparison sake. All the others are much closer in fill levels, so I figured this would be the one to keep an eye on first as it should have a deeper 'layer' of argon. Don't think it'd make much difference, but that's the one I used.

We shall see.

Awesome contribution, really looking forward to seeing the long term results of this.

 

[Ateam2023]

All MCT. 8 of the kit are in the freezer, and I don't expect to touch them for a few years at least, as I have enough of what I am using to last a good while. The other two are in the fridge, more to compare how they'd be stored for 'normal' long term storage, with the understanding that it may slow down the appearance of any differences.

If there is an appreciable difference over however long it takes, I may opt to buy quality vacuum sealed vials next time and just fill them with argon first and then transfer the oils to the argon filled vials for a simpler long long term solution.

Given tren seems to be the most apt to oxidize, this was a good place to start I think.

So I understand this right, with the argon already filled in the vial , as you add the oil in it will displace the argon until you have it full of oil the remaining space will be argon correct?