tren ace ED or EOD? Bring the facts.

whats your test at
I was running 500 test e/600 mast e/50 var ed

but im going to drop the test down to 250 to hopefully reduce sides, aromitization, and potential prolactin sides. Will keep the mast at 600, and the 50mg var.

Been debating adding 4-5 iu of GH too for the cut, but part of me wants to save it for the following bulk. Not sure yet on the gh
 
dang i prefer test higher than my primo im gonna drop my test down too and my primo and raise my tren lmfao maybe hahah
Yeah high test and tren gives me much worse sides

Still will get sides with low test and tren, but theyre not as bad, has been my experience.
 
I was running 500 test e/600 mast e/50 var ed

but im going to drop the test down to 250 to hopefully reduce sides, aromitization, and potential prolactin sides. Will keep the mast at 600, and the 50mg var.

Been debating adding 4-5 iu of GH too for the cut, but part of me wants to save it for the following bulk. Not sure yet on the gh
Out of curiosity have you had bloodwork lately what’s that putting your e2 at ?
 
Out of curiosity have you had bloodwork lately what’s that putting your e2 at ?
Had bloodwork before I started the cycle, and everything was in check. Only about 4 weeks into the blast currently, and I just added the tren and lowered the test a bit so I'm going to give it another 4 weeks for everything to adjust, then probably take bloods.

Not having any estrogen problems though, even with being sensitive to aromatizing, but I also take 20mg nolvadex 2x a week, and 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week to keep everything in check. Might have to reduce the aromasin to 1x a week once the test saturates near 250mg/week, and will probably continue to take nolvadex 2x a week to keep gyno in check
 
Had bloodwork before I started the cycle, and everything was in check. Only about 4 weeks into the blast currently, and I just added the tren and lowered the test a bit so I'm going to give it another 4 weeks for everything to adjust, then probably take bloods.

Not having any estrogen problems though, even with being sensitive to aromatizing, but I also take 20mg nolvadex 2x a week, and 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week to keep everything in check. Might have to reduce the aromasin to 1x a week once the test saturates near 250mg/week, and will probably continue to take nolvadex 2x a week to keep gyno in check
Nice , good luck man get those gains! That looks like a solid cycle. I personally only use aromasin if I start having signs I.e sensitive nips etc but also depends on bloodwork kinda funny I can always tell when the estrogen gets high I start getting super emotional and almost tear up randomly haha
 
Nice , good luck man get those gains! That looks like a solid cycle. I personally only use aromasin if I start having signs I.e sensitive nips etc but also depends on bloodwork kinda funny I can always tell when the estrogen gets high I start getting super emotional and almost tear up randomly haha
Yeah it makes perfect sense to do it that way. The only reason I run nolva/aromasin a bit high is because I have some pre existing gyno I don't want to flare up or get worse. If I didn't have any I would probably be more relaxed with the dosing
 
Yeah it makes perfect sense to do it that way. The only reason I run nolva/aromasin a bit high is because I have some pre existing gyno I don't want to flare up or get worse. If I didn't have any I would probably be more relaxed with the dosing
Litterally same and gyno. Ralox did and does a solid job knocking it down, but the weird depression for 4 weeks was not tolerable. That said, it was a permanant knock dowm. Also had this gyno since 16, 30 now, and at 30 it knocked it down
 
Litterally same and gyno. Ralox did and does a solid job knocking it down, but the weird depression for 4 weeks was not tolerable. That said, it was a permanant knock dowm. Also had this gyno since 16, 30 now, and at 30 it knocked it down
Never tried Ralox before, but I have heard a lot of good things about what it can do for gyno. If I ever do get another major flare up I might give it a shot.

I was able to get mine to reduce a significant amount of size by running a heavy nolvadex + letrozole blast. Was doing 40mg nolvadex a day and 2.5mg letrozole a day. Felt like absolute death during this time though, my joints were the worst they've ever been, and I had 0 energy at all, but I had massive shrinkage on the gyno aspect. Didn't get rid of it completely of course (as its already a gland), but made it manageable. Now I just maintain with light nolvadex + aromasin use.

Will definitely keep Ralo in mind for future uses.
 
Never tried Ralox before, but I have heard a lot of good things about what it can do for gyno. If I ever do get another major flare up I might give it a shot.

I was able to get mine to reduce a significant amount of size by running a heavy nolvadex + letrozole blast. Was doing 40mg nolvadex a day and 2.5mg letrozole a day. Felt like absolute death during this time though, my joints were the worst they've ever been, and I had 0 energy at all, but I had massive shrinkage on the gyno aspect. Didn't get rid of it completely of course (as its already a gland), but made it manageable. Now I just maintain with light nolvadex + aromasin use.

Will definitely keep Ralo in mind for future uses.
I have always liked more Nolva than Ralo for gyno reversal purpose.

Ralo works but it's very slow, i don't know but for me Nolva was far superior...
 
Definitely feel the Tren aggression/irritation ramping up.

Walking on the treadmill and the gym cleaning person is walking all around me, mopping the treadmills next to me, putting bleach on the floor literally right in front of the treadmill I'm using, then I start getting a headache because the smell of bleach is disgusting. Like just let me workout in peace damnit...

There was like nobody on the treadmills, atleast 30+ empty treadmills they could have chosen from to clean, but "hey let me go spread some bleach around this dude doing his cardio"
 
Definitely feel the Tren aggression/irritation ramping up.

Walking on the treadmill and the gym cleaning person is walking all around me, mopping the treadmills next to me, putting bleach on the floor literally right in front of the treadmill I'm using, then I start getting a headache because the smell of bleach is disgusting. Like just let me workout in peace damnit...

There was like nobody on the treadmills, atleast 30+ empty treadmills they could have chosen from to clean, but "hey let me go spread some bleach around this dude doing his cardio"
dude dumb ppl in general should be sent to cali and not allowed to leave there lol
 
Definitely feel the Tren aggression/irritation ramping up.

Walking on the treadmill and the gym cleaning person is walking all around me, mopping the treadmills next to me, putting bleach on the floor literally right in front of the treadmill I'm using then I start getting a headache because the smell of bleach is disgusting. Like just let me workout in peace damnit...

There was like nobody on the treadmills, atleast 30+ empty treadmills they could have chosen from to clean, but "hey let me go spread some bleach around this dude doing his cardio"
I went to the grocery store for my wife to pick up a purple cabbage when I was on tren. I ended up behind this old woman in the line-up and after she used a coupon for basically every item in her cart, it came time to pay and she pulled out her little coin purse and started counting change. I honestly lost all control. I just screamed "fffuuuuuUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!" and slammed the cabbage onto the conveyor belt so hard it exploded and I walked out. My hand was sore for days afterwards. I really have to be careful with steroids man I'm honestly crazy especially on tren. I don't push tren past 100mg/week or I'm in the danger zone. I don't know how people run these drugs way up high. On test alone I'm a bit snappy but if I add a nor-19 even at low dosages I'm nuts. I'll drag someone out of their car at a stop light. And I'm not a fighter either so it would be really akward to get my fuckin head stomped in after pulling someone out of their car. It would make for hilarious dashcam footage though.
 
I went to the grocery store for my wife to pick up a purple cabbage when I was on tren. I ended up behind this old woman in the line-up and after she used a coupon for basically every item in her cart, it came time to pay and she pulled out her little coin purse and started counting change. I honestly lost all control. I just screamed "fffuuuuuUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!" and slammed the cabbage onto the conveyor belt so hard it exploded and I walked out. My hand was sore for days afterwards. I really have to be careful with steroids man I'm honestly crazy especially on tren. I don't push tren past 100mg/week or I'm in the danger zone. I don't know how people run these drugs way up high. On test alone I'm a bit snappy but if I add a nor-19 even at low dosages I'm nuts. I'll drag someone out of their car at a stop light. And I'm not a fighter either so it would be really akward to get my fuckin head stomped in after pulling someone out of their car. It would make for hilarious dashcam footage though.
I actually laughed out loud, that's hilarious.

And yeah I mean I feel the irritation, but i don't act on it i just cut the cardio 10 minutes short and added it back at the end of my lift. I know they work hard, that they're just doing their jobs, and are likely nice people, but for me it was really just the smell of the bleach that annoyed me more than anything.
 
I actually laughed out loud, that's hilarious.

And yeah I mean I feel the irritation, but i don't act on it i just cut the cardio 10 minutes short and added it back at the end of my lift. I know they work hard, that they're just doing their jobs, and are likely nice people, but for me it was really just the smell of the bleach that annoyed me more than anything.
Yeah that shit is terrible and for the next hour it’s like in your throat but kudos for holding back haha the struggle is real
 
I actually laughed out loud, that's hilarious.

And yeah I mean I feel the irritation, but i don't act on it i just cut the cardio 10 minutes short and added it back at the end of my lift. I know they work hard, that they're just doing their jobs, and are likely nice people, but for me it was really just the smell of the bleach that annoyed me more than anything.
Oh dude for sure. I would have been irritated by that on a good day. That seems like a common courtesy thing.
 
I went to the grocery store for my wife to pick up a purple cabbage when I was on tren. I ended up behind this old woman in the line-up and after she used a coupon for basically every item in her cart, it came time to pay and she pulled out her little coin purse and started counting change. I honestly lost all control. I just screamed "fffuuuuuUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!" and slammed the cabbage onto the conveyor belt so hard it exploded and I walked out. My hand was sore for days afterwards. I really have to be careful with steroids man I'm honestly crazy especially on tren. I don't push tren past 100mg/week or I'm in the danger zone. I don't know how people run these drugs way up high. On test alone I'm a bit snappy but if I add a nor-19 even at low dosages I'm nuts. I'll drag someone out of their car at a stop light. And I'm not a fighter either so it would be really akward to get my fuckin head stomped in after pulling someone out of their car. It would make for hilarious dashcam footage though.
ill drag a mfer put their car with zero tren zero test. I belive this is the way but must use critical thinking before dragging said bitch ass mfer out of car lol... Honestly i keep it together pretty well just at the gym when a bunch of lazy ass bitch ass mfers are lifting and dicking off with each other by sucking each other off and looking at fucking instagram or youtube while sitting on the machine or bench. -_- And for some reason its like now mfers wanna touch me all the time -_- unless you got huge tits and a fat ass and a nice juicy Pussy PLEASE DO NOT FUCKING TOUCH ME! lmfao i dont care if its to get my attn I OBVIOUSLY DON"T FUCKING WANT TO TALK OR chat with these mfers.... SMfh im upping it to 40 mg today ed but i also only got 4 weeks left on the tren and then im cruising for like 5 months
 
It's pretty wild waking up everyday and seeing large daily changes on only 350/week. Leaner, more vascular. Strength is way up, and it feels like the fat is just melting off, without any muscle loss

Granted the diet and training is on point, in a large deficit with low carbs so it's definitely fueling the progress.

Only real side effect so far is some mild insomnia. Can fall asleep very easy every night, but I always wake up around 3-4am,
and falling back asleep is very difficult. I'm considering altering my training time to 5am if it continues to be this way. As I told a buddy of mine, I do believe that tren does elevate your central nervous system similar to how a stimulant would, but without the stimulant like feel.

Will probably stay at 350 (50ed) for another week or two and if the sides don't escalate, will probably go up to 525 (75 ed). If I start getting intolerable sides there I'll just back down to 350 again, is the plan
 
question to all about tren ace lol ig ot this wierd side goign on but idk if its the tren ace i got like a quarter puffy nip lmfao its just on the outside rim of them but they go away its like maybe a allergic reaction to my sweat or soemthing idk has anyone experienced this> i am taking 20 mg of nolva eod
 
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