Tren Ace vs. Tren E

[Jrock83]

Haha enjoy it mate. Am of tren for 2 years makes me kinda sad lol but am counting down the days still till I can use it again . Your very lucky with the sides it seems haha.

Why are you off of it for 2 years if you dont mind me asking?

 

[Blakeyy]

Why are you off of it for 2 years if you dont mind me asking?

Well my gf is pregnant just now we are having a little girl. I don’t want to do anything to ruin that or to fuck it up for my self where I end not getting to see my little girl at the first stage of her life. You said you have little to no sides very lucky lol. I can run 400mg a week of tren max before I start turning crazy anything more than that and shit just goes south. I am on test and deca and dbol atm when am on a blast I always feel really good mentally and physically mentally I actually feel really good I feel better about myself and shit and more confidence all the usual but when tren gets added I then feel like x1000 better about myself and start acting like am god or something haha. I start treating my friends and family and gf totally different to what I normally would. I wouldn’t do anything to make any of them walk out on my life but when am on tren honestly I couldn’t give a flying fuck if any of them left and never seen me again I will fall out with my partner and tell her to leave my house or I’ll leave her house and tell her we are finished over something so smal and stupid but it just sets me off on one. And I never cheat on my partner normally ever but fuck me I cheated on her 3 times running fucken tren and normally I wouldn’t even ever think about it and when am on it it’s all I can fucken think about. And so for that reason I don’t want to take it and risk me being stupid and fucken lossing out on my daughters life. Nightmares to fuck don’t get me started on those there so fucken vivid and feel so much more real than normal nightmares. I woke up in the middle of the night and left her house blocked her number and everything because she cheated on me but it was a nightmare but felt so dame real I couldn’t see or talk to her for 3 days she ended up contacting my parents to get a hold of me and to see what the fuck happened and why I just vanished in the middle of the night. The worst one was I seen my parents being killed and it was like I was there watching it but couldn’t move to get help them or wake up It felt so so so real when I woke up I had tears from my eyes and I had to go and check on my parents cause I honestly though they were dead. So long story short it causes to much strain on a relationship and with her being pregnant I don’t want to put any strain on it at all and she’s totally sound with me on AAS she just doesn’t like me or my attitude or anything about me when am on tren.

 

[rpbb]

not bashing on you each man to their own but what are your reasons for ever going as high of 1g of tren am just curious? do you compete at a very high level? and that's a lot of oil to that's 1vial a week.

seems to be the new thing here, everyone seems to think you need to run a gram of everything, probably not getting bloodwork either. It's extremely dangerous

 

[Monstar]

Well my gf is pregnant just now we are having a little girl. I don’t want to do anything to ruin that or to fuck it up for my self where I end not getting to see my little girl at the first stage of her life. You said you have little to no sides very lucky lol. I can run 400mg a week of tren max before I start turning crazy anything more than that and shit just goes south. I am on test and deca and dbol atm when am on a blast I always feel really good mentally and physically mentally I actually feel really good I feel better about myself and shit and more confidence all the usual but when tren gets added I then feel like x1000 better about myself and start acting like am god or something haha. I start treating my friends and family and gf totally different to what I normally would. I wouldn’t do anything to make any of them walk out on my life but when am on tren honestly I couldn’t give a flying fuck if any of them left and never seen me again I will fall out with my partner and tell her to leave my house or I’ll leave her house and tell her we are finished over something so smal and stupid but it just sets me off on one. And I never cheat on my partner normally ever but fuck me I cheated on her 3 times running fucken tren and normally I wouldn’t even ever think about it and when am on it it’s all I can fucken think about. And so for that reason I don’t want to take it and risk me being stupid and fucken lossing out on my daughters life. Nightmares to fuck don’t get me started on those there so fucken vivid and feel so much more real than normal nightmares. I woke up in the middle of the night and left her house blocked her number and everything because she cheated on me but it was a nightmare but felt so dame real I couldn’t see or talk to her for 3 days she ended up contacting my parents to get a hold of me and to see what the fuck happened and why I just vanished in the middle of the night. The worst one was I seen my parents being killed and it was like I was there watching it but couldn’t move to get help them or wake up It felt so so so real when I woke up I had tears from my eyes and I had to go and check on my parents cause I honestly though they were dead. So long story short it causes to much strain on a relationship and with her being pregnant I don’t want to put any strain on it at all and she’s totally sound with me on AAS she just doesn’t like me or my attitude or anything about me when am on tren.

Holy shit. Don't touch it again. Lesson learned right. All of us respond differently but screw that. Way too much harm and issues. You sound like a balanced guy and that stuff screws it all up. Plenty of other things to run that won't ruin your life.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

seems to be the new thing here, everyone seems to think you need to run a gram of everything, probably not getting bloodwork either. It's extremely dangerous

I noticed that too. One guy running gram of Test and gram of MastE. One guy running a gram of NPP. Now gram of Tren. Way way too much.

 

[Jrock83]

Well my gf is pregnant just now we are having a little girl. I don’t want to do anything to ruin that or to fuck it up for my self where I end not getting to see my little girl at the first stage of her life. You said you have little to no sides very lucky lol. I can run 400mg a week of tren max before I start turning crazy anything more than that and shit just goes south. I am on test and deca and dbol atm when am on a blast I always feel really good mentally and physically mentally I actually feel really good I feel better about myself and shit and more confidence all the usual but when tren gets added I then feel like x1000 better about myself and start acting like am god or something haha. I start treating my friends and family and gf totally different to what I normally would. I wouldn’t do anything to make any of them walk out on my life but when am on tren honestly I couldn’t give a flying fuck if any of them left and never seen me again I will fall out with my partner and tell her to leave my house or I’ll leave her house and tell her we are finished over something so smal and stupid but it just sets me off on one. And I never cheat on my partner normally ever but fuck me I cheated on her 3 times running fucken tren and normally I wouldn’t even ever think about it and when am on it it’s all I can fucken think about. And so for that reason I don’t want to take it and risk me being stupid and fucken lossing out on my daughters life. Nightmares to fuck don’t get me started on those there so fucken vivid and feel so much more real than normal nightmares. I woke up in the middle of the night and left her house blocked her number and everything because she cheated on me but it was a nightmare but felt so dame real I couldn’t see or talk to her for 3 days she ended up contacting my parents to get a hold of me and to see what the fuck happened and why I just vanished in the middle of the night. The worst one was I seen my parents being killed and it was like I was there watching it but couldn’t move to get help them or wake up It felt so so so real when I woke up I had tears from my eyes and I had to go and check on my parents cause I honestly though they were dead. So long story short it causes to much strain on a relationship and with her being pregnant I don’t want to put any strain on it at all and she’s totally sound with me on AAS she just doesn’t like me or my attitude or anything about me when am on tren.

Yeah bro I dont even think you should be doing a countdown. Test Mast and Primo are your friends now lol. No more Tren bro...too much important shit going for you now, especially if that shit makes you cheat on the mother of your child. It's awesome that you see that and have since backed away from it.

 

[Turbo charged]

If you are not competing why do u need tren.
Plenty other stuff out there to take and grow.
If you are using tren to just look good on the street that is foolish.

 

[Jrock83]

Okay so I've taken my tongue lashing from you guys, and like i said, i respect your concern as well as your opinions. The thread got a little off track, and i expected that.

Does anyone have any solid input on comparing the differences between the Enanthate ester vs. Acetate in regards to Tren? I promise guys, i won't ever go above 600mg again. I just want to know what to expect when i slam this Tren E into my body.

 

[Blakeyy]

Okay so I've taken my tongue lashing from you guys, and like i said, i respect your concern as well as your opinions. The thread got a little off track, and i expected that.

Does anyone have any solid input on comparing the differences between the Enanthate ester vs. Acetate in regards to Tren? I promise guys, i won't ever go above 600mg again. I just want to know what to expect when i slam this Tren E into my body.

lol I am just amazed that you could go so high and not be trying to run up the side of buildings =D . personally never tried ace I Like E for the pinning I think you will notice very much the same the steroid is just the same its just the ester holding it together that is different. I always use longer esters personally and love them. used short ester once and I hated it.

 

[Blakeyy]

Holy shit. Don't touch it again. Lesson learned right. All of us respond differently but screw that. Way too much harm and issues. You sound like a balanced guy and that stuff screws it all up. Plenty of other things to run that won't ruin your life.

Am totally fine on everything else lol just that and it seems to be at 500mg or more am fuckedddd. the problem is I know am acting different on it but its not till I come off and am like why the fuck would I say and act like that like wtf man. You don't realise how bad you are till you come off it and think back to it. 400Mg I found after running it a few times is my sweet happy spot still get the same results but sides are far less but its just something am not willing to even risk with whats currently going on don't want to risk anything to ruin it.

 

[Jrock83]

lol I am just amazed that you could go so high and not be trying to run up the side of buildings =D . personally never tried ace I Like E for the pinning I think you will notice very much the same the steroid is just the same its just the ester holding it together that is different. I always use longer esters personally and love them. used short ester once and I hated it.

Yeah I think I'm gonna give it a go. I'll start low with the E by itself and give it 3 or 4 weeks before I throw in the Ace with it.

...and yes, I know it sounds crazy, but being on Tren I had very minimal sides even at those doses. I didnt want to run up the side of buildings, but I had a huge issue with being able to control my thoughts due to an insane rise in libido. It was crazy!!

 

[Blakeyy]

do you know what causes this? am the same and I actually hate it. I spend most of my day wanking and am not fucken kidding and I fucken hate it. See a fat girl in the gym and still get turned on and horney as fuck lol. On deca atm for the first time ever and it seems to be having the total different effect I can feel my sex drive dieying more and more every day its so sad am trying to hold onto it and stop it from dieying but I think its gonna die very very soon to nothing lol. always horny as fuck on cycle and on this I cba even wanking or having sex and the other day for the first time in my life having sex with my gf and I mean I got hard but like you know not hard hard like it should be lol more semi it was horrible lol.

 

[Jrock83]

do you know what causes this? am the same and I actually hate it. I spend most of my day wanking and am not fucken kidding and I fucken hate it. See a fat girl in the gym and still get turned on and horney as fuck lol. On deca atm for the first time ever and it seems to be having the total different effect I can feel my sex drive dieying more and more every day its so sad am trying to hold onto it and stop it from dieying but I think its gonna die very very soon to nothing lol. always horny as fuck on cycle and on this I cba even wanking or having sex and the other day for the first time in my life having sex with my gf and I mean I got hard but like you know not hard hard like it should be lol more semi it was horrible lol.

I'm not sure what causes it exactly. I know that Nandralone converts to DHN, and from what I understand, DHN has something to do with Nandralone negatively affecting libido. You should read up on it(I dont want to give misinformation). I'm not sure why Tren send libido through the roof. Some guys have the opposite effect. I know that I'm running NPP and I feel a slight drop in libido from it. I threw in Proviron to add some form of DHT since I'm running low Test with it. The proviron seems to be working. My old lady is coming to see me next week, and I have contemplated dropping the NPP until she is gone so that my sex drive is optimal. So yes, I understand what you are going through with deca, because it's happening to me. You should try 75-100mg proviron ed.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Double test always with deca also proviron and none of these happen

 

[OrangeCat]

With the enanthate ester the sides could be there for 2-3+ weeks. Aside from that, due to stable blood levels, the sides are MUCH less frequent with ace and pinning everyday.

 

[Jrock83]

With the enanthate ester the sides could be there for 2-3+ weeks. Aside from that, due to stable blood levels, the sides are MUCH less frequent with ace and pinning everyday.

Yeah that's what I keep hearing, is that the sides linger for a while even if you decide to tap out. I can handle sides....just not libido. How was your libido on E? Any different than on Ace? That was the main reason I created this thread...to get input on the experiences people had that differed from E to Ace, mainly libido differences.

 

[Morefyah]

Yeah that's what I keep hearing, is that the sides linger for a while even if you decide to tap out. I can handle sides....just not libido. How was your libido on E? Any different than on Ace? That was the main reason I created this thread...to get input on the experiences people had that differed from E to Ace, mainly libido differences.

I’ll be running Tren E for the first time here soon ( bloodwork permitting). The Tren E is blended with Test and Deca. It’s a pcom mix, and I’ve had in the stash for years. I’ve got like 40ml of it. I had my heart set on a long primo cycle after the holidays. Instead I will be stocking up on black tops. I hope the Tren E sides aren’t to much for me!

 

[janoshik]

I’ll be running Tren E for the first time here soon ( bloodwork permitting). The Tren E is blended with Test and Deca. It’s a pcom mix, and I’ve had in the stash for years. I’ve got like 40ml of it. I had my heart set on a long primo cycle after the holidays. Instead I will be stocking up on black tops. I hope the Tren E sides aren’t to much for me!

Running Tren while on GH can pretty much nullify raises in IGF.

 

[Morefyah]

Running Tren while on GH can pretty much nullify raises in IGF.

I am just cruising now and I’m off the GH so not presently concerned. So your saying in the presence of Tren GH will not raise igf at all?

 

[janoshik]

I am just cruising now and I’m off the GH so not presently concerned. So your saying in the presence of Tren GH will not raise igf at all?

I have a good friend, who is far more experienced with running GH and bloodtests than me - Mr. @Buck1973 and if I recall correctly due to the fact that he ran dozens of IGF-1 tests he was able to pinpoint tren as severely impacting the levels of IGF.