That low of a dose of MENT sounds like it would be great with tren. I've only tried higher doses like 25 mg/day of each. Tren sides kick my ass after a few weeks when it's just tren and test. Adding trest at that dose just makes the tren sides worse for me.
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Tren and Npp absolutely unbelievable
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Human_backhoe
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That's what makes Tren so damn tempting. That and the nutrient partioning! Wife and kids with me on tren....lol nope
I have some tren that's just been sitting here for a few years. I'm married now. It's tempting, but it feels risky these days with a wife and a new job. Tren makes my body look like a god while the rest of my life is going to shit.
My wife went out of the country for a few weeks last year to visit her family. I thought that would be a good time to get in a mini cycle with tren. Nope. It gives me these paranoid jealous thoughts when she's gone. When she's here, tren makes me more and more irritated with every little thing she does. Oh well. A stable life beats having the tren look.
Shit fuckin kills me! It’s good for about 3 days then all of sudden it Kicks in like a mule. Let me know if you find any tricks. I have a bunch of itm314 said it well. I haven't gone higher than 5 mg per day, since I am just experimenting with it right now, pretty much entirely for the mental benefits as the winter can be pretty rough for me mentally. Cruise levels of trest are about 500-700 MICROgrams per day. I have been experimenting with 2.5-5mg per day on top of my NPP/Test cycle. So far, I am loving it; as I mentioned, it really has some excellent mental effects.
Even at this "low" dose, which is still pretty damn high compared to cruise levels, I should see anabolic benefits too, but it is impossible to tell with the NPP/Test. I haven't had any issues with estrogen levels. I take .25 mg of adex every 3 days or so. I actually haven't really had to change my AI levels at all with the trest added in. For the record I pin my test EOD (140 mg), NPP daily, and MENT daily with my NPP.
I do let my E2 ride pretty high though since I don't have to worry about gyno due to full gland removal. My last blood test had total T at 4650 ng/dL and e2 at 143 pg/dL and I was feeling great. I never have any water retention or blood pressure issues, even with my E2 that high. No acne other than a few little bumps mainly on my shoulders here and there--I am pretty sure it is actually just new hairs growing thanks to the androgenic effects lol--I just leave them alone and they go away. Libido is sky high, I'm servicing myself 1-2x per day and having sex once per day basically every day. Honestly I am excited for my libido to go down again and be back to normal so I can stop being so distracted.
Overall the MENT just really improves mental outlook. I am considering just continuing to cruise on it even after my cycle. I am lot more positive, have more energy, I laugh more and feel more resilient to stress. I am looking forward to actually just trying a MENT cycle in the future.
The only problem with it is that there is essentially zero DHT production, as it is not a substrate for 5-alpha reductase, so you need some amount of test every so often, or a DHT derivative perhaps like proviron to ensure you aren't missing that. One guy on reddit was cruising at 700 mcg per day then was doing like 50 mg of test every 5 days (I think?) just to keep DHT going and he was feeling great. Otherwise after a while you'll be essentially lacking any DHT and it's not gonna be fun. However, that is precisely why MENT is so anabolic and has so few side effects (as long as you manage estrogen, dose properly, and don't do something stupid like take it with dbol as they both metabolize to methylestradiols).
A few years ago the trestolone experience thread on reddit is literally just people saying "I grew tits and bloated into a manotee, it is nothing but side effects, estrogen is impossible to manage." I feel like they must have gotten something else, or maybe it was way over-dosed, because now most people seem to love it, though a lot of people say it is wet.
Come on bro you gotta give a little more info than that!
Any PIP with the DHB? That's all I seem to hear about. What is the concentration of the oil you're using?
What dose are you running and how often are you pinning it? What else are you running with it?
Like you mean after a few days e2 gets bad? What dose were you running and what else were you running with it?
I know I am reviving an older thread, but what dose do you run to cut with trestolone?
I've gone as low as 5 mg/day on an "enhanced cruise" along with 200 mg/week test. I've gone as high as 30 mg/day. It works well for cutting at those doses and anything in between.
Higher doses burn fat faster, but I get some bloating that takes away from the visual results on a cut. Higher doses also make me feel warm all the time and can actually raise my body temp a little. I got turned away from donating blood on 30 mg/day because my temperature was 99.6 degrees F. It turns out that happens whenever I run 25 mg/day or more. I get more water / glycogen weight as the dose gets higher, so the scale can be deceiving on a cut. Higher doses are great if you look strictly at fat loss and not scale weight.
15 mg/day seems like a good balance for cutting without side effects. These days I'm experimenting with lower doses as I'm coming back from the gyms being closed for so long. I'm getting good results recomping now with 7 mg/day along with muscle memory.
Richard322
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I love tren and npp together usually only last about four weeks until I come off because my wife starts asking too many questions I respond so well except I’ll do 350 npp and 150 tren. My wife knows I do test cause I’m on TRT, I always tell her honey this new creatine is amazing! Lol!!!!!!!
Damn, well I may give it a try but I already have issues with body temp regulation even just on test. I really appreciate your insight there. Thank you!
I get bloods this week then I am going back on a smaller cycle beginning of June. This will actually be my first cycle during the summer time. In the past all I have ever done is bulk around like Thanksgiving to February to March. Gives me an excuse to eat over the holidays lol.
For MENT I loved it, I added 5 mg to my last Test/NPP/Anavar cycle and also took it when I was taking tren. Perhaps that was at least part of why I was so goddamn hot all the time. It was really rough lol. Even just test solo I end up turning into a fucking space heater, so hot that my girlfriend was overheating in bed while we were sleeping...then when I would get up and switch to the other bed because my side was all sweaty, she would then wake up cold!! Although it was mighty uncomfortable, the thought amuses me still.
