Tren Cycle, first timer here... whoop whoop!!

[1forthegeeks]

My wife hasn't said anything about it.

Have you noticed any change from the BL to Peps tren?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

My wife hasn't said anything about it.

Have you noticed any change from the BL to Peps tren?

Not yet, it's only been a few days. I'm still getting the night sweats but I need to see how I feel in the gym with it.

 

[Candyskull]

Feeling a bit better than yesterday, my nose stopped leaking like a faucet so that's nice.. I've resigned to the fact that I'm not going to the gym this week, it sucks but I need to get over this shit. I stepped on the scale just now and was at 223lbs, down 7 freaking pounds!! I know it'll come back in a few days once this is gone though so I'm not letting it get to me too much.

I dropped the tren down to 60mg and the var to 40mg until I'm over this, hopefully only until the weekend.

Apparently I've been breathing like a gorilla in my sleep for the past couple weeks. My wife's been bitching about it so I told her to record it so I could see what she's talking about and it wasn't good!! I can't even describe the sound but it's not a snore, it's really loud, heavy, abnormal breathing though.. Anyone else experience this with tren??

"There is a constellation of diseases and symptoms relating to body mass, cardiovascular, respiratory, and occasionally, neurological dysfunction that have a synergistic effect in sleep-disordered breathing."

Sleep apnea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just a guess, but I think that Tren's cardio impact, and sleep disturbance effects coupled with your being sick may be causing apnea. You may try using sme of those snore nose strips temporarily. Just keep an eye on it. It can be pretty dangerous especially to those of higher body weight because your heart is already working harder.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

"There is a constellation of diseases and symptoms relating to body mass, cardiovascular, respiratory, and occasionally, neurological dysfunction that have a synergistic effect in sleep-disordered breathing."

Sleep apnea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just a guess, but I think that Tren's cardio impact, and sleep disturbance effects coupled with your being sick may be causing apnea. You may try using sme of those snore nose strips temporarily. Just keep an eye on it. It can be pretty dangerous especially to those of higher body weight because your heart is already working harder.

Thank you very much good sir!! I'm going to give those a shot tomorrow. Yes it's kind of scary..

 

[Mr. Joe]

I snore like a gorilla on tren as well. No worries though, I don't hear it.

 

[fit2beking]

Thank you very much good sir!! I'm going to give those a shot tomorrow. Yes it's kind of scary..

JB,

If it continues to happen when you are off your cycle of tren you may want to get a sleep study. And just to echo what Candy said, it is very dangerous. This is what caused the death of Reggie White. Just watch it and stay on top of it. My best friend has sleep apnea and he has always been in great shape, so you don't have to be overweight to have it. Just keep an eye on it man.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Still sick.. Feel like I'm getting better though. I wake up everyday hoping it'll just be gone but to no avail, yet... Maybe tomorrow?? I have a doctors appointment set for Monday. If I can get just a little better by tomorrow I plan on going the gym Monday.

I know I might catch some shit for this but how bad would it be to run var and winny together? I'd only do it for 2 weeks then I'd drop the var and stay on the winny. I'd run both at 50mg.. Thoughts?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Also this Ralox is shit.. I've been on it for almost 2 weeks and gyno has gotten worse!! I talked to 1-4 (he's been on it as long as I have) and he says his has gotten worse too, so I don't think I'm imagining it. I'm going to try a combo of nolva and Ralox for a week, may just drop the Ralox though..

 

[1forthegeeks]

Yea I agree with J,

I don't feel the ralox like my nolva.

Won't be purchasing that again.

 

[pittbox]

Also this Ralox is shit.. I've been on it for almost 2 weeks and gyno has gotten worse!! I talked to 1-4 (he's been on it as long as I have) and he says his has gotten worse too, so I don't think I'm imagining it. I'm going to try a combo of nolva and Ralox for a week, may just drop the Ralox though..

Sorry to hear about the gyno man.
Hope you get it figured out.
Nothing worse then gyno.
Check these out. This is when you know its bad, when you're this lean and it still shows.
(Not me)

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Sorry to hear about the gyno man.
Hope you get it figured out.
Nothing worse then gyno.View attachment 11907
Check these out. This is when you know its bad, when you're this lean and it still shows.
(Not me)

Ha.. Yea, it's not that bad!!

 

[brutus79]

I thought nolva was just good for prevention and not elimination... what about anostrozole? I have a bunch but I feel like it made my joints hurt... was I imagining that?

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

I thought nolva was just good for prevention and not elimination... what about anostrozole? I have a bunch but I feel like it made my joints hurt... was I imagining that?

Nolva has shown to have the most significant effect on reducing Gyno. Not Letro or other ai's.

If I were trying to reduce Gyno I'd run Nolva and a slightly higher AI dose.
When finished I'd drop the Nolva and slowly taper off back to a normal AI dose.

(Nolva actually increases E2 levels at an extremely disproportionate level to testosterone) probably by increasing aromatase enzyme activity but this is just my educated guess.

In the end this is just what I believe at the moment, I could contradict myself later because i know enough to know i dont know shit, so with that said,

Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do..

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

I thought nolva was just good for prevention and not elimination... what about anostrozole? I have a bunch but I feel like it made my joints hurt... was I imagining that?

You may not have been imagining it, may have something to due with the significant decrease in water retention.

 

[pittbox]

Nolva has shown to have the most significant effect on reducing Gyno. Not Letro or other ai's.

If I were trying to reduce Gyno I'd run Nolva and a slightly higher AI dose.
When finished I'd drop the Nolva and slowly taper off back to a normal AI dose.

(Nolva actually increases E2 levels at an extremely disproportionate level to testosterone) probably by increasing aromatase enzyme activity but this is just my educated guess.

In the end this is just what I believe at the moment, I could contradict myself later because i know enough to know i dont know shit, so with that said,

Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do..

The Hodge twins?

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

The Hodge twins?

Them ain't muscles bitch..

Thems Fibers!!!!

[)]

 

[pittbox]

Those guys are a fucking riot!

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I'M BACK AT IT LIKE AN IRON ADDICT!!

Damn that week off sucked!! I hit shoulders/traps today. Still not feeling great, maybe 70% but good enough to train. I think I'll be at 1hunnit in a couple days. At that point I'll up tren to 70mgED and var to 60mgED. Currently test 350mg/week, 50mg var ED, 60mg tren ED, and 4iu GH ED.

Only got a couple weeks left until I have to post pics for PB so time to get to work!!

 

[fit2beking]

Also this Ralox is shit.. I've been on it for almost 2 weeks and gyno has gotten worse!! I talked to 1-4 (he's been on it as long as I have) and he says his has gotten worse too, so I don't think I'm imagining it. I'm going to try a combo of nolva and Ralox for a week, may just drop the Ralox though..

This sucks man! I thought we were on to something with that damn ralox! I guess the torem may be next in the natural progression. Keep us updated.

 

[fit2beking]

Yea I agree with J,

I don't feel the ralox like my nolva.

Won't be purchasing that again.

Dammit! Will you be trying torem?