Tren E sides - Help!

[Hiram]

I'm hoping a few of the more experienced bros can gimme pointers.
My current cycle:
500mg Test 2xs/week
100mg D-Bol ED
100mg Tren Enan ED


I am getting the usual sides from the Tren; Coughing, insomnia, etc.

What is driving me crazy is the acid reflux at night. I wake up every night choking on my own stomach acid. That is bad enough, but I also am starting to feel my throat a little sore....possibly from the acid. I am concerned because I read a post here recently where someone mentioned they suffered scar tissue damage in their throat as a result of Tren use.


Any of you bros know if there is anything I can take?

(I have precription ulcer medicine, Misoprost, on hand but I'm not sure if I should take it)

 

[jayce]

Are you taking tren Enan or tren Acetate? 100ED tre enan sounds like alot to take.
Try Prevacid or similar antacid for the heartburn.
Jayce

 

[eleven11]

There is a product you can buy at health food stores called Acid ease. This stuff works great it will help heal the lining in your stomache. I had a very inflamed stomache from eating advil for about 2 straight yrs and this stuff healed it in about 2 months. now i only take it every once in a while. as far as tren 75mg ed is as high as I'll go.........11

 

[koal]

700 mg of tren ENTH week ? Good luck not getting sides.Wait till it starts to build up half lives.250 mg 2 x week is plenty.Why risk your health.
Stay safe

 

[Deacon]

I have the same problem or had I should say - I started taking Prilosec and it went away with in a week.

100 mgs of tren enth ed is to much tren enth man

 

[iron]

700 mg of tren ENTH week ? Good luck not getting sides.Wait till it starts to build up half lives.250 mg 2 x week is plenty.Why risk your health.
Stay safe

what the heck does build up half-lives mean? ROFL!!!!

 

[graybass]

Tren

It's got to be Tren A. 700mg Tren Enanthate a week is big trouble!!!
500mg a week of tren E. was way too much for me. I've been cycling on and off for 20yrs. 500mg was too much! sides were monstrous. Next time 250mg EW.
You better make sure it's Tren A. and not Tren E. Tren E only Twice a week, Max! Tren Enan. made mr sleep all day!
Better check this shit out!

let us know GB

 

[alsmith]

Misoprost should be OK to continue to take. It is a synthetic prostaglandin E analog that replaces the protective prostaglandins in your stomach that are consumed with prostaglandin inhibiting therapies such as when you take NSAIDs. Do you also have ulcers to have a prescription for misoprost?

In response to your question as to what to take for acid reflux, there 3 different OTC types of medications for this.
1. Antacids give short term relief of symptoms of acid indigestion, heartburn, and gas by neutralizing existing gastric acid. There onset of action is generally 5-15min and has a duration of 1-3 hours.
2. H2 receptor antagonists like tagamet, zantac, axid, and pepcid provide relief of the same symptoms by competitively binding to H2 receptors on parietal cells in the stomach causing a decrease in acid secretion. All of these have an onset of action of 1-2 hours and a duration of 6-8 hours. The maximum duration of use is 2 weeks when not under a physician's supervision.
3. Proton pump inhibitors such as prilosec. These work the best for treating acid reflux. They work by decreasing acid production by blocking the H+-K+ ATPase proton pump on the surface of parietal cells in the stomach. They are recommended for the treatment of heartburn in adults that occurs 2 or more days/week. The problem with these are that the onset of action is 24 hours and may take up to 1-4 days for maximum effect, so it is for the treatment of frequent heartburn and not effective for immediate relief. The OTC preparations are recommended to be taken in a 14 day course and not recommended to exceed three 14 day coursed per year without seeing your physician.

Hope this helps a little. Sorry if I got a little long winded.

 

[collos]

Hiram, was it enanthate or acetate?

 

[Hiram]

Thanks for the advice bros. You've been a great help.

 

[morepain]

Hiram, was it enanthate or acetate?

It makes no difference if he is taking 700mg of tren e or tran a as a matter of fact 700mg of tren acetate actually yields more trenbolone than 700 mg of tren enanthate, now granted there is no need to split the inection up more than twice per week if it is enanthate but that is the only difference. By your guy's theory that means 700 mg of test enanthate is far more severe than say 700 mg/week of test suspension or prop. the only thing the ester does is control the release of the base drug. Truth be known i would guess it is the d-bol giving you the heartburn especially if they are ip's. they work well but they eat my stomach up bad, just try dropping the d-bol for a couple of days and see what happens. Again just for review 700 mg is 700 mg regardless of ester with the exception of the ester weight, there is no difference in severity between enanthate and acetate versions of tren, if you like to poke yourself everyday go with 75-100mg per day tren acetate, if you don't go with 350mg twice per week of tren e.

 

[collos]

It makes no difference if he is taking 700mg of tren e or tran a as a matter of fact 700mg of tren acetate actually yields more trenbolone than 700 mg of tren enanthate, now granted there is no need to split the inection up more than twice per week if it is enanthate but that is the only difference. By your guy's theory that means 700 mg of test enanthate is far more severe than say 700 mg/week of test suspension or prop. the only thing the ester does is control the release of the base drug. Truth be known i would guess it is the d-bol giving you the heartburn especially if they are ip's. they work well but they eat my stomach up bad, just try dropping the d-bol for a couple of days and see what happens. Again just for review 700 mg is 700 mg regardless of ester with the exception of the ester weight, there is no difference in severity between enanthate and acetate versions of tren, if you like to poke yourself everyday go with 75-100mg per day tren acetate, if you don't go with 350mg twice per week of tren e.

The reason I asked about the ester was that I had big coughing problems with tren acetate and I was hoping to be able to use enanthate instead. My theory is that the acetate ester is the problem because Ive never had any problems with anything else, regardless of how much BA it was in it.

 

[koal]

what the heck does build up half-lives mean? ROFL!!!!

For someone with only 2 cycles under there belt you really should not insult a board member that probably has forgoten how many cycles they have done.Your homework tonight is to go to this link http://www.come.to/roidcalc
and put in 2 x a week 250 mgs of an enthanate ester.Now tommorow you can repost realizing that yes there is a half life build up over the course of 8 weeks.
You can even print out a nice bar chart showing the build up of levels.( from 20 mgs up to 86 mgs)
Just trying to help out bro and you have to flame.Jeeshhh newbies

 

[iron]

For someone with only 2 cycles under there belt you really should not insult a board member that probably has forgoten how many cycles they have done.Your homework tonight is to go to this link http://www.come.to/roidcalc
and put in 2 x a week 250 mgs of an enthanate ester.Now tommorow you can repost realizing that yes there is a half life build up over the course of 8 weeks.
You can even print out a nice bar chart showing the build up of levels.( from 20 mgs up to 86 mgs)
Just trying to help out bro and you have to flame.Jeeshhh newbies

the half life is specific to the molecule. maybe you mean the active hormone levels build up but the half life doesnt change at all.

 

[koal]

the half life is specific to the molecule. maybe you mean the active hormone levels build up but the half life doesnt change at all.

All the depends how you phrase it Hopefully the bro that poised the question will understand these posts and take head in injecting to much tren enth.Those sides can be brutal.

 

[shmoo]

700 mgs of tren ew is alot. i'm also looking at the d-bol dose of 100mgs ed. i wouldn't be surprised if thats not causing some of your problems. 40mgs and my back is about to sore to workout! try dropping the dose of both tren and d-bol.

 

[Hiram]

Truth be known i would guess it is the d-bol giving you the heartburn especially if they are ip's. they work well but they eat my stomach up bad, just try dropping the d-bol for a couple of days and see what happens. Again just for review 700 mg is 700 mg regardless of ester with the exception of the ester weight, there is no difference in severity between enanthate and acetate versions of tren, if you like to poke yourself everyday go with 75-100mg per day tren acetate, if you don't go with 350mg twice per week of tren e.

You're right, it was the D-Bol. I dropped it for a few days and the acid reflux went away entirely. I also eased back on my Tren dosage.

BTW, could a person get away with injecting twice per week on Acetate? Or, would it diminish its effectiveness?