Tren Hexa Vs. Ace/Enan and neurodegernative diseases

Oh lol I didn't realize u were serious its Dr Jim he said I was wrong about hex being for humans an he supposed to be a doctor 2 min Google search proves it was made for humans in France in 1980 an discontinued in 1997
 
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I can’t see the posts you’re referencing. *shrug*

Oh lol I didn't realize u were serious its Dr Jim he said I was wrong about hex being for humans an he supposed to be a doctor 2 min Google search proves it was made for humans in France in 1980 an discontinued in 1997
lol that's funny if he did. @Mac11wildcat is one of the most neutral guys on here

So far ;) we haven't experienced a trenned out Mac yet lol
 
I have also read that Tren was produced for human consumption for a brief period, and the Hex ester is what was used in that particular human grade tren. But at the end of the day, like said before, the parent compound is still tren. I'm am way less knowledgable than a lot of guys on here, but I personally don't see how a particular ester would be any more or less healthy for a person in regards to tren. Test is test...tren is tren. Shit I could be wrong though
 
I have also read that Tren was produced for human consumption for a brief period, and the Hex ester is what was used in that particular human grade tren. But at the end of the day, like said before, the parent compound is still tren. I'm am way less knowledgable than a lot of guys on here, but I personally don't see how a particular ester would be any more or less healthy for a person in regards to tren. Test is test...tren is tren. Shit I could be wrong though
Yup. Since there’s nothing harmful about the ester itself, tren is tren. In fact, I’d bet most hex on the market isn’t in fact hex....
 
Yup. Since there’s nothing harmful about the ester itself, tren is tren. In fact, I’d bet most hex on the market isn’t in fact hex....
I knew I couldn't be that far off. People talk about tren hex like it's some kind of special tren...and all it is, is the ester attached. I cant speak on the topic of most of the hex on the market not being hex, but I could see why that would be the case...because ugl's attach that word "hex" on there and people think they're getting unicorn jizz or something...but it's just tren
 
You are dead on. Negma was the company that produced it and it was for human consumption. I was lucky enough to use it several times.

I used a few UGLs, only one was close to the negma.
I’ve always heard this about the tren in the 80s and 90s but scientifically it doesn’t make sense.
 
You are dead on. Negma was the company that produced it and it was for human consumption. I was lucky enough to use it several times.

I used a few UGLs, only one was close to the negma.

Great to hear from someone who has actually used tren hexa several times. If you have also used ace or enan, what differences did you experience with hexa?
I would your opinion on the following since you have experienced life more:
I hearing that some of sides are disappear post cycle and some related to cognitive functions and memory are lessen over time but never completely disappear. Is there any truth to this?
I know short and long term sides are directly proportional to dosage and duration, for all AAS.
 
I dont know..but 400 mg real hexa ..working for my like 650 mg good ace..
Hey Nandro, is that the Alpha Pharma you are running? I thought you were OOS for AP Tren Hexa?
Have you experienced any permanent sides from of tren, if you have used it for considerable number of times and durations?
 
Great to hear from someone who has actually used tren hexa several times. If you have also used ace or enan, what differences did you experience with hexa?
I would your opinion on the following since you have experienced life more:
I hearing that some of sides are disappear post cycle and some related to cognitive functions and memory are lessen over time but never completely disappear. Is there any truth to this?
I know short and long term sides are directly proportional to dosage and duration, for all AAS.

Tren ace makes me a lunatic. It hits me fast. I am not allowed to drive on it, that is for sure. I never felt healthy on it and won't do it again. Even when I used to get from a Vet (Finaject) it made me feel like shit and mean.

Tren E is fine, but I have to run more of it to get the same effects of the hex and that leads to other complications. It's a good drug and very useful.

I am not quite sure about the memory thing. I didn't recognize any memory loss or mental abilities being reduced while I was on tren. But one thing about tren, I always low dosed it (200mg/Week Tren E for example) and for only 8 weeks. Unless you are hammering this stuff high dose for longs periods of time, most likely you may not see anything. But I think does depend on each individual's constitution.

When I used the Negma Parabolin, I never heard it call tren. Sometime in the early 2000's is probably the first time hearing the word tren. When I started juicing you had guys in the gym for your info and Dan Duchaine's Underground Steroid Handbook, which was a pamphlet at best. Very good terse info, but not enough to know what you are really doing.
Parabolin just hits me differently. It doesn't come on fast, nor slow but it gives you a solid noticeable extra push and transforms you like no other drug, even GH (IMHO).
 
It was made in France for medical use in humans in 1980 an was discontinued in 1997 Google it

Yes and TrenA was also marketed in EUROPE but Trenbolone in any form has never been FDA approved for human use in the US.

The distinction is important bc the FDA requires a multitude of animal and clinical trials before approving any drug.

To that end it’s possible the neurodegerative effects of Tren
(The original focus of this thread) would have been more closely scrutinized from an evidence based perspective and data published for others to review.

Yet the near absence of the latter on behalf of European AAS manufactures places B.B. and others who elect to use AAS, (Tren in particular) in an untenable role of guinnea pig!

Finally IMO Tren has received somewhat of a bad wrap not by the medical community but by PED forum members for a number of reasons.

Jim
 
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Not much of a doctor is he?

Mac, I like most of what you have been saying since you came here, recently. But you’re jumping to conclusions regarding Dr. Jim. I know you have a lot of experience in the game, and we all see that from your intro/log thread you created. Nevertheless, stick around for some time and really get to know who is whom. Then, you can formulate an accurate opinion. And keep in mind, no one correct 100% of the time. ;)
 

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