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Tren is making me crazy?!

Megapumps1234 said:
lol you guys are being dicks! haha but seriously, I appreciate it. Here is what I'm going to do:

1. Stop and fucking think for a few days or a week. I'm not in a rush (well, I upped the tren dose to ED, mostly because my MLG test vials were so underfilled that my cycle will come up three weeks shy)
2. Make my decision


I asked for all your advice for a reason. I'm not just going to listen to what I want to hear. I'm going to process it over some time like a rational human being. Nothing good will come from acting too fast.

She's a full time Optometry student, so really, it would be hard for her to have time to go out and be sucking strange. I actually met her through my best friend (the one that calmed me down) because he's in her class (class size <30). I trust HIM completely. I only clarify this because somebody is about to say 'your best friend is fucking your girl.' He wouldn't fuck her even if she showed up on his door step naked; he'd just call me in a panic and tell me about it. Best guy I know.
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Your friend may indeed be a great guy. But being in a class does not mean he knows what she is doing behind closed doors. She could be seeing some total stranger way out of their "classmates" circle.

I've known plenty of people going to school to be a Dr, Nurse, 2 jobs, 1 full time job and full time school. They MADE THE TIME to go out and get laid.

I don't know if you feel that because she is a soon to be optometrist that you feel its important to stay with her, because i'll tell you know there are plenty of smart / already successful / more successful chicks out there. You just have to keep rolling the dice until you find one. Its a numbers game at the end of the day.

I've been in your scenario. The difference is I was in deployed overseas and she was in the states. Its very difficult to maintain a relationship over long distances and unless you have kids or are married there is no reason you (nor her) should suffer. You should be banging man, your on freaking Tren!

In any case, I wish you the best. You have 100's of years of experience in this thread all saying the same thing so that should tell you something.

Also just because you know some PUA does not mean your an expert.

Respectfully,

Dealer
 
dealer said:
Your friend may indeed be a great guy. But being in a class does not mean he knows what she is doing behind closed doors. She could be seeing some total stranger way out of their "classmates" circle.

I've known plenty of people going to school to be a Dr, Nurse, 2 jobs, 1 full time job and full time school. They MADE THE TIME to go out and get laid.

I don't know if you feel that because she is a soon to be optometrist that you feel its important to stay with her, because i'll tell you know there are plenty of smart / already successful / more successful chicks out there. You just have to keep rolling the dice until you find one. Its a numbers game at the end of the day.

I've been in your scenario. The difference is I was in deployed overseas and she was in the states. Its very difficult to maintain a relationship over long distances and unless you have kids or are married there is no reason you (nor her) should suffer. You should be banging man, your on freaking Tren!

In any case, I wish you the best. You have 100's of years of experience in this thread all saying the same thing so that should tell you something.

Also just because you know some PUA does not mean your an expert.

Respectfully,

Dealer
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Respect.
 
Megapumps1234 said:
lol you guys are being dicks! haha but seriously, I appreciate it. Here is what I'm going to do:

1. Stop and fucking think for a few days or a week. I'm not in a rush (well, I upped the tren dose to ED, mostly because my MLG test vials were so underfilled that my cycle will come up three weeks shy)
2. Make my decision


I asked for all your advice for a reason. I'm not just going to listen to what I want to hear. I'm going to process it over some time like a rational human being. Nothing good will come from acting too fast.

She's a full time Optometry student, so really, it would be hard for her to have time to go out and be sucking strange. I actually met her through my best friend (the one that calmed me down) because he's in her class (class size <30). I trust HIM completely. I only clarify this because somebody is about to say 'your best friend is fucking your girl.' He wouldn't fuck her even if she showed up on his door step naked; he'd just call me in a panic and tell me about it. Best guy I know.
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You are but a separate mind in this world subjectively experiencing the delusional roller-coaster of "love". Some have been on the ride, and their experiences tells a story--some are bad, some are good. The point is this: to understand that your desire to identify yourself with another person is a futile attempt at self-discovery. How can you lose a person unless you feel like you possess that person? She is not yours, she never will be, she never CAN be. All she is is an idea in your mind that allows you to bring about positive feelings in yourself when the idea crops up. Don't lose yourself into thinking she's yours, this way you'll have nothing to lose when she "breaks your heart". What you are experiencing is a process, and this process flows like water...you're attempting to grab hold of a river. Don't be foolish.
 
Holy shit !!!!
This has me laughing so damn hardddd. The terminology is priceless.

But on serious terms. Being only 20 I been there. Almost exact situation. 2yr relationship, great girl, amazing job, blah blah blah and ended up the same as you. Little bitch crying and chasing a worthless morale less slut. Once I stopped chasing and accepted that she's doing me a favor by showing me who she really was before things got more serious(house, kids, marriage).

Although i broke of all contact from my part, Still my pitiful ass still kept fucking her when ever SHE called ME like I was her sex slave.

Many months, many cunts, and plenty humps later I am free of the leach I let take control of my emotions:) now go to a bar, hookup with a few cum dumps then slam them again like the little cock hungry sluts they are. (the tren should help with all of this)
 
The same analogy is used in BJJ. Big strong guys come in and use 100% muscle, yet get tapped left an right. This is especially true if they are training Gi-less. I always advocate that the first year should be w/ Gi, as they will then not be able to develop any bad habits. Once you start relaxing, that is when you will really start improving.

I was the big bb guy when I started, trying to out muscle but after 3 months I decided "I don't care if I get tapped, I m just going to let things flow and work on certain things."

That is when my game really took off. When I teach, I tell everyone to tap the mat. They do, and then I say "alright, everyone has tapped, so it means nothing to be tapped again."

In regards to Bruce Lee, everyone asks how he would do in modern MMA. W/ the skill set he had back then, he would get taken down and submitted.

However, Lee was the first guy to advocate cross training. He integrated boxing w/ Kung Fu, which improved his punching 100%. If alive today, he for sure would be doing some serious grappling, first to avoid the take down, and then to have a good ground game.
 
"Of the 20 women, only one broke up w/ me (because I became sloppy, and mismanaged the relationship) . 18 I broke up w/ and 1 I married."

Hey Pericles, is Mrs. Pericles aware of these stats? If not, you should make her aware of them in your next Happy Anniversary card! Being 1 out of 20 is pretty impressive - exclusive company.

It would be a wonderful thing to say to her in a card!
"Of all of the 20 broads I was bangin' that summer, YOU Mrs. Pericles were the one I chose to bang exclusively for the rest of my life". I am getting emotional just typing this for you...[:o)]
 
Now wait just one minute newbie 29 those are "personal attacks" and serve no purpose but to "insult" a well respected Meso veteran, NOT!!!

(It just another example of PC living a life of contradictions, delusions or fabrications. You are to be congratulated 29 since you choose not to ignore our living contradiction as a form of CANCER on this forum)

Jim
 
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bickel29 said:
"Of the 20 women, only one broke up w/ me (because I became sloppy, and mismanaged the relationship) . 18 I broke up w/ and 1 I married."

Hey Pericles, is Mrs. Pericles aware of these stats? Yes she is. I was completely honest, because women will always catch you. I believe I have posted about this phenomena before. My wife and I really hit it off. However, she was a bit heavy (I was not fat back then) because I was not eating her cooking, and cheesecakes, ice cream etc....she is a food service director and brings that stuff home nightly. I was throwing it in the garbage,,,and this is really f'ed up, but I was getting up in the middle of the night, fishing it out of the garbage and eating it In any event, she knew. I trained her and after 6 months of hard work and eating right, she looked phenomenal. 3 months in I stopped seeing other women[:o)] If not, you should make her aware of them in your next Happy Anniversary card! Being 1 out of 20 is pretty impressive - exclusive company.

I posted a lot on MASF, and through hard work and discipline, had moved up to....think it was PUA, one category from the top (Guru). One day, my wife printed out 61 pages of comments and coaching the new guys I had made. I also discussed women I was sexing. She would find hairs from other women. All were Asian/Latina, w/ jet black hair, but the lengths would vary.

It would be a wonderful thing to say to her in a card!

"Of all of the 20 broads I was bangin' that summer YOU Mrs. Pericles were the one I chose to bang exclusively for the rest of my life". I am getting emotional just typing this for you...[:o)]
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20 over 1 summer, I wish. It was actually a 2 year period.

For Valentines Day, I got her a card that said "will you be my valentine? If not, can you give this card to your sister? I think there should be more down to earth cards, another one, in continuing the sister connection, would be attached to 24 roses and the card should say "I am sorry I banged your sister."

The other day, I asked if she had made dinner (she works long hours yet still cooks. She texted back "yes" I said "thanks Doll Face. she responded w/ "don't call me Doll face!" Guess what I did...nothing. Didn't text back, call or anything. She was asleep when I got home, so I did not see her or talk to her for 2 days. These are tests, and women give them constantly, to see if and how you respond.She is trying to create drama, and if you don't buy into it, you pass.

So, two days later I said sweetie, whats up w/ the hate on "Doll face?" She said "that is what you called all your whores." [:o)]
 
pittbox said:
You think you're crazy now?
Just wait till you come off of it!
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You ain't kidding. I've only done T/A, but you go from feeling like a bull with mad cow disease to feeling like San Diego, which is Latin for "Whale's Vagina", within like a week of being off.

Le Tren' is harsh...
 
I stopped the whole cycle at the same time.
Next time I'll try stopping the tren like 4 weeks earlier than the test.
Idk maybe that will help some what.
 
Idk. I've come off tren and just cruised on test for awhile, and it was still bad.

Tren is like the dope of the aas world. It's so good and so bad all at the same time...
 
pittbox said:
I stopped the whole cycle at the same time.
Next time I'll try stopping the tren like 4 weeks earlier than the test.
Idk maybe that will help some what.
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This (gradually dropping compounds) is what I do and advocate. I don't run tren anymore because of my age and the fact that I do tons of cardio.

However, I do run multiple compounds at the same time. I will drop 1 every 5 days or so until I am on test only. Many argue that there is no need to taper test, just ride out the natural taper.

However, I have found that if I taper down to low amounts of test, until I am on trt amounts (200mgs per week) I keep more gains.

I just did such a taper, last shot was nearly 3 weeks ago. Finishing up some HCG and starting pct. I hit 230 last cycle, and am holding at 225 even though I am watching my diet (I look best at 218...I am carrying 7 lbs of excess fat.)
 
Mike Oxbig said:
Depression is generally a part of PCT no matter what AAS you use. An HCG blast should help minimize it somewhat.
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I don't remember reading that as a withdrawal type symptom during my research, but it makes sense. I'll up my cardio a bit during PCT and try to get some extra endorphins going to mitigate its effect.
 
I gotta run, and don't have time to read all of the thread, but here is what you need to do starting today: Get 3 # closes a day. wait a few days to call. You should get a date w/ 1 out of 3. Natural game is best, but for right now, find and use the "jealous Girl friend" opener. You will get rejected, more than half the time, but so what? You should be opening 9 women, and get 3 #s. As you get better, you will get 5, 6, 7 # out of the 9.

I used to go to the Barnes and Noble, and open women browsing the magazines and books. If a hot chick was looking at something, I would open w/ a topic like "Oh, I see you like Plato. What do you think of the Thrasymachus debate?"

Out of every 3 you should be banging 1. Rinse, repeat.
 
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