Tren no more (a word of warning)

[Ravtech]

This current cycle is my second experience with tren. The first run was 50mg ED for most of the 8 weeks with 500mg/week of test c, current cycle I've been tweaking amounts of tren e and tren a with lower test (300mg/week usually) to try to reduce the insomnia and night sweats I got on the first cycle. I had great bulking results on the first cycle, and great cutting results on the current cycle. However, the mental side effects are just becoming too much to cope with day in and day out.

I'm normally a very emotionally stable person, I don't get jealous or overly angry/aggressive unless overtly provoked. However, on both of these cycles I found myself getting irrationally jealous and insecure of my wife's past. She and I have been together for almost 10 years, since I was 19 and she was 18. We both had previous partners in high school, her a few more than me, and some of them were complete assholes to her but she still dated them. This, for some reason, has completely consumed my mind for days at a time. I didn't even know her in high school or any of the guys she dated, but my mind has just run with it. It's caused bouts of depression, anger, and anxiety that were at times very hard to cope with. If I was a more unstable person and unable to convince myself through the shit swirling in my mind that it was just the tren talking, it could have ended badly. The weird part is the tren also makes me feel extremely emotionally close to my wife, so it's bringing us closer and then mentally fucking with me at the same time. So, despite my love of the physical benefits I've enjoyed from tren, I think it's in my best interest to steer clear of it from now on and stick to less androgenic compounds.

My advice to any of those considering tren for the first time is to be careful and make sure to look at your behavior as objectively as you can if you think you're seeing any changes, maybe get a friend to keep an eye out if there's someone you're close enough with to trust with that task. For some people tren is great an the side effects are minimal, I thought I was one of those people because the physical side effects weren't too bad and it was transforming me dramatically. I can handle the night sweats and insomnia, but this mental shit is just too scary to fuck with.

 

[GigaloRob]

Unfortunately tren can have unwanted complications in certain individuals. I am lucky i guess in that i'm already a asshole and my sides are nothing i can't handle. Sorry to hear about your issues on tren. It's unfortunate because it's just amazing to use. I would rather have a happy marriage and stable home life than keep using tren and risk losing my mind/marriage or both. I applaud your decision since it would be hard for me if i was in a similar spot.

 

[Bane]

I have been on the fence about using tren for awhile. I'm a total asshole usually according to others so I might be okay considering what gigalo said. I don't have any caber and am concerned about insomnia also. I am thinking about 30 mg Ed for two weeks with tren ace, 35 mg mast prop, and 35 mg test prop Ed. Do you guys think caber is necessary to have on hand for that?

 

[foreveryoung]

tren and even masteron to some extent mess me up the same way emotionally... relationshiops are super hard in this world anyways, and the brain and emotions are just a clusterfuck, it's amazing we can survive any of it, the uncertainty, the jealousy, the longing, the missing of her, the lovesickness, you don't want to be too clingy, mood swings from happy to sad based on little thoughts and things happening, the dynamics of human relations have me all fucked up at the best of times

i've been on tren for years, and recently came off it a few weeks ago but I still do masteron and proviron with my test, so androgens still there, but emotionally I am pretty messed up relationship wise almost all the time, I'd be better off single and not looking, for sure, because starting a relationship is even worse, and being in one is super tough too.... wish I knew the answer, if a guy could switch off his emotions of caring and worrying he'd be better off but instead with aas it seems like these emotions get even more powerful

 

[Bane]

It is amazing to me how these compounds affect us in different ways. I wanted sex all day everyday before I used steroids. I am still horny all the time but just don't feel like I have to have a partner to satisfy my needs. Now I can take it or leave it and it makes no difference to me really. I am guessing here, but I think I just feel so damn alpha that it is like an honor to get fucked by yours truly. Therefore I kind of pull a role reversal on the female? But the poor girl better be ready for a major pounding if I get on it now. I'm like a fucking animal pounding that pussy out. I have not used tren yet so I will see what happens.

 

[foreveryoung]

at times in the past on tren, I had moments where cumming was difficult, and I would have to pound hard on the girl like a jackhammer for a long time, and a bad thing about tren is cardio goes way down, so it's llike I almost had to give myself a heart attack I was banging her so fast and hard for so long and would have to go even harder and super fast to actually cum, I'd be so spent and out of breath after it was crazy sometimes

not sure the girls really enjoy that all too often, maybe once in the right mood, but I mean I almost scare myself how hard and fast Id have to go and for long... felt like dying after sometimes I'd be breathing so hard and sweating and heart pounding, and I'm lean and in good shape

 

[devildog93]

I am definitely not one of the guys on the tren bandwagon. I can understand the use of it if you are a sport competitor, but for those of us just using it for other purposes the sides are just too negative to outweigh using something else. Night sweats, mini-flu, and other sides just aren't something i'm willing to put up with, especially for cosmetic reasons when compared to something like a test base. I don't need to stay in a weight class and having water weight isn't going to make or break my daily activities, but being able to sleep and feeling good are fairly important to me.

 

[dper726]

Tren is highly overated for the complications it can cause to your health. It's the internet and forums that hype the compound. It did for me, I've ran tren numerous times with all different goals in mind. Will only do it not for a cutting phase.

To the OP tren spikes up my paranoia. It hit me many times with my wife I would notice where I would want to check up on her while always I the compound. I would also doubt her many times, and wanting to dig up on her. But also had issues at work with the paranoia, had to sometimes calm myself down and remind myself it was the drug the agent for the cause. Never experienced paranoia other then when in tren.

The insomnia really drags your body down too. You have no idea how great I feel able to sleep soundly all night long when I come off.

 

[BigShadow]

Tren is highly overated for the complications it can cause to your health. It's the internet and forums that hype the compound. It did for me, I've ran tren numerous times with all different goals in mind. Will only do it not for a cutting phase.

To the OP tren spikes up my paranoia. It hit me many times with my wife I would notice where I would want to check up on her while always I the compound. I would also doubt her many times, and wanting to dig up on her. But also had issues at work with the paranoia, had to sometimes calm myself down and remind myself it was the drug the agent for the cause. Never experienced paranoia other then when in tren.

The insomnia really drags your body down too. You have no idea how great I feel able to sleep soundly all night long when I come off.

weed helps me sleep

 

[Sworder]

Tren is a tool!
It can be used or misused, and it is your responsibility to research enough to know if it is going to right for you. Outweigh the pros with the cons.
There is a stigma with Tren and I believe you can use tren as a great addition to your cycle if used in a properly dosed way.

My friend is currently doing his second cycle at 100 mg Test C/week along with 200mg Tren E/week. He is currently out of shape and first cycle was years ago.

I think the cycle is used wisely as with that testosterone dose you don't need to worry much about aromatase and the "smaller" dose of Trenbolone will provide the necessary anabolic power for his cycle to be successful.

Most the times I think the dose of Trenbolone is misused and misunderstood. The same androgenic effects can be established with other compounds at other doses. But I will not say all drugs are the same, certain activate androgen receptors in the CNS more than others leading to more androgenic expressions. Keep in mind Testosterone will convert to DHT and also act on the CNS.

I think these types of threads are good as it serves as a personal testimony, take it as you wish.

 

[dper726]

weed helps me sleep

Don't smoke weed

 

[Manski]

Freakin love tren ace but I trip out while on it. Same thing, I'm close to my chick but all of a sudden insecure all the time. Drives her crazy. She knows what I do so she understands for the most part.

 

[nattydread]

This is why tren is not for people who have only a couple cycles under their belt. I feel it should be for the more experienced aas user. Tren can be too much for a guy just starting out. Just my 2cents. Be safe fellas

 

[Sugar12]

Personally love tren. Like it so much I can't see doing a cycle without it again. Though I definitely have trouble sleeping at times - ZMA and Melatonin do a great job - ZMA especially. I am definitely more of a dick when on tren but I am normally a dick...I generally don't like many people and I like and tolerate even less while I am on. Not to an aggressive extent or violent, I just don't tolerate people doing stupid things well while on.

I think all steroids just amplify your normal personality. The stronger the compound, the stronger the effect.

 

[RomanMVP]

at times in the past on tren, I had moments where cumming was difficult, and I would have to pound hard on the girl like a jackhammer for a long time, and a bad thing about tren is cardio goes way down, so it's llike I almost had to give myself a heart attack I was banging her so fast and hard for so long and would have to go even harder and super fast to actually cum, I'd be so spent and out of breath after it was crazy sometimes

not sure the girls really enjoy that all too often, maybe once in the right mood, but I mean I almost scare myself how hard and fast Id have to go and for long... felt like dying after sometimes I'd be breathing so hard and sweating and heart pounding, and I'm lean and in good shape

at times in the past on tren, I had moments where cumming was difficult, and I would have to pound hard on the girl like a jackhammer for a long time, and a bad thing about tren is cardio goes way down, so it's llike I almost had to give myself a heart attack I was banging her so fast and hard for so long and would have to go even harder and super fast to actually cum, I'd be so spent and out of breath after it was crazy sometimes

not sure the girls really enjoy that all too often, maybe once in the right mood, but I mean I almost scare myself how hard and fast Id have to go and for long... felt like dying after sometimes I'd be breathing so hard and sweating and heart pounding, and I'm lean and in good shape

Oh man, can I relate to that problem. To the point of performing like a machine. Some might think this effect is great, or even funny, but it's not. I've bruised pubic bones in the past when I'm like this.

 

[cyclone268]

Oh man, can I relate to that problem. To the point of performing like a machine. Some might think this effect is great, or even funny, but it's not. I've bruised pubic bones in the past when I'm like this.

couldn't help but laugh at this bro haha.

Personally love tren. Like it so much I can't see doing a cycle without it again. Though I definitely have trouble sleeping at times - ZMA and Melatonin do a great job - ZMA especially. I am definitely more of a dick when on tren but I am normally a dick...I generally don't like many people and I like and tolerate even less while I am on. Not to an aggressive extent or violent, I just don't tolerate people doing stupid things well while on.

I think all steroids just amplify your normal personality. The stronger the compound, the stronger the effect.

completely agreed on the amplify your personality thing. whatever you "are" now - you'll just be more of when you're on.. aggressive, nice guy, whatever.

one thing i've found with tren is that if you're seeing a girl the thought of her being with another dude is just almost intolerable..not sure if its a feeling of jealousy or what but man that shit sucks.. worth it though

 

[whodatnation]

Tren works differently in everyone. Any first time user should never use the enanthate version of it either. If they do have side effects that are intolerable and are using tren ace at least it is only for two days. I can take it with no real issues except for severely reduced cardio.

 

[flash]

Oh man, can I relate to that problem. To the point of performing like a machine. Some might think this effect is great, or even funny, but it's not. I've bruised pubic bones in the past when I'm like this.

This may be the greatest post ive ever read. Thank you for making my day Roman.

 

[flash]

my experience with tren wasnt too bad of course I ran a really low dose like 200mg/wk but I only had problems with the night sweats and insomnia. Personally I didnt have any problems with paranoia or jealousy it affects everyone differently I guess.

 

[Manski]

I run 150mg eod