Tren sides 5 days in? Dreams

The dreams are awesome good or bad they are vivid, yet not frequent as people described ...

Tren sides:
Hot as fuck
Breathing is terrible
Hot as fuck
Always hungry
Hot as fuck.

Try some melatonin for sleep.
 
The dreams are awesome good or bad they are vivid, yet not frequent as people described ...

Tren sides:
Hot as fuck
Breathing is terrible
Hot as fuck
Always hungry
Hot as fuck.

Try some melatonin for sleep.

Yes!!

I remember sucking wind at the gym, that was the worst part for me!

Dumbbell rows would almost put me down from barely being able to breathe/recover
 
Yes!!

I remember sucking wind at the gym, that was the worst part for me!

Dumbbell rows would almost put me down from barely being able to breathe/recover

I never had an issue with breathing in the gym. I didn’t see the impact until I got on stairs. Just going up a flight of stairs got me winded. I never did the stair master on tren but god bless I would be scared lol

One thing in the gym I noticed early on was that I sweat like crazy during my training. Completely soaked through my shirt, shorts, hell even my shoes became rank!

Don’t leave your knee sleeves in the back of your car for days when on tren... woof
 
I must be one of the lucky few. I get zero sides from tren e or ace so far. I’ve been on 800mg a week tren e for two months now. Weird dreams but not bad in any way just wake up and wonder wtf and laugh. No night sweats but I sleep with the window open in the winter with a fan on lol so that probably helps a lot. No more trouble sleeping then how I was before the tren. I can do my shot before bed and sleep like a baby. Tren cough gets me once in a while.
 
I must be one of the lucky few. I get zero sides from tren e or ace so far. I’ve been on 800mg a week tren e for two months now. Weird dreams but not bad in any way just wake up and wonder wtf and laugh. No night sweats but I sleep with the window open in the winter with a fan on lol so that probably helps a lot. No more trouble sleeping then how I was before the tren. I can do my shot before bed and sleep like a baby. Tren cough gets me once in a while.

Your deff one of the lucky ones I'm good up 700 on ace but once I hit that fuck short fuse I have no fuse lol
 
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Trenbolone, what a mess !
neurodegenerative, directly estrogenic, neurotoxic


hippocampus, master of dreams...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X14004220?via=ihub

"Aβ42 levels in hippocampus...the Aβ42 levels in plasma in our present studies were examined as a parameter evaluating the toxicity of 17β-trenbolone. In male rats, 48 h after 17β-trenbolone injection, Aβ42 levels were increased"

"The result shows that 17β-trenbolone treatment promoted Aβ42 production and both AR and ER were involved in the process"

"Our experiment indicated that 17β-trenbolone could cross the BBB. 17β-trenbolone is a small hydrophobic molecular sharing similar structure with T and DHT, so it's not difficult to understand why 17β- trenbolone can cross the BBB. Hippocampus is known to be a target for the modulator actions of androgens and estrogens (Hatanaka et al., 2009). Maybe that's why brain tissue, especially the hippocampus, had stronger affinity with 17β-trenbolone than muscle...Our results showed that 17β-trenbolone concentrations in rat brain and especially hippocampus were still high even 48 h after 17β-trenbolone injection at the lowest administration dose (0.2 mg/kg body weight). If 17β-trenbolone is injected again, its concentrations in the brain and hippocampus will be increased. That means 17β-trenbolone will accumulate in the brain and hippocampus"

"17β-trenbolone induced apoptosis of the primary hippocampal neurons. Neuronal cell apoptosis is the cardinal feature of both acute and chronic neurodegenerative diseases"

"The activation of ER by 17β-trenbolone may be different from E2. 17β- trenbolone is a substrate for neither 5α-reductase nor aromatase. So 17β-trenbolone will not be converted into estrogens. 17β-trenbolone activities through ER are direct rather than indirect by converting to estrogens"


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Trenbolone, what a mess !
neurodegenerative, directly estrogenic, neurotoxic


hippocampus, master of dreams...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X14004220?via=ihub

"Aβ42 levels in hippocampus...the Aβ42 levels in plasma in our present studies were examined as a parameter evaluating the toxicity of 17β-trenbolone. In male rats, 48 h after 17β-trenbolone injection, Aβ42 levels were increased"

"The result shows that 17β-trenbolone treatment promoted Aβ42 production and both AR and ER were involved in the process"

"Our experiment indicated that 17β-trenbolone could cross the BBB. 17β-trenbolone is a small hydrophobic molecular sharing similar structure with T and DHT, so it's not difficult to understand why 17β- trenbolone can cross the BBB. Hippocampus is known to be a target for the modulator actions of androgens and estrogens (Hatanaka et al., 2009). Maybe that's why brain tissue, especially the hippocampus, had stronger affinity with 17β-trenbolone than muscle...Our results showed that 17β-trenbolone concentrations in rat brain and especially hippocampus were still high even 48 h after 17β-trenbolone injection at the lowest administration dose (0.2 mg/kg body weight). If 17β-trenbolone is injected again, its concentrations in the brain and hippocampus will be increased. That means 17β-trenbolone will accumulate in the brain and hippocampus"

"17β-trenbolone induced apoptosis of the primary hippocampal neurons. Neuronal cell apoptosis is the cardinal feature of both acute and chronic neurodegenerative diseases"

"The activation of ER by 17β-trenbolone may be different from E2. 17β- trenbolone is a substrate for neither 5α-reductase nor aromatase. So 17β-trenbolone will not be converted into estrogens. 17β-trenbolone activities through ER are direct rather than indirect by converting to estrogens"
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Can someone dumb this down for me I understand that tren is bad for your brain there is studies showing that it has a connection to Alzheimer's disease is that what this is saying an at that dose that would be equivelent of a 200 pound person taking 18 mg is it saying that is all that is needed to negatively effect our brains
 
Can someone dumb this down for me I understand that tren is bad for your brain there is studies showing that it has a connection to Alzheimer's disease is that what this is saying an at that dose that would be equivelent of a 200 pound person taking 18 mg is it saying that is all that is needed to negatively effect our brains
Unfortunately, your math is correct; as little as 18mg for 90kg person is enough to result in 17β-trenbolone concentrations in rat brain and hippocampus to remain high even after 48hrs post injection! that is if we can translate the studies to humans :(
 
Unfortunately, your math is correct; as little as 18mg for 90kg person is enough to result in 17β-trenbolone concentrations in rat brain and hippocampus to remain high even after 48hrs post injection! that is if we can translate the studies to humans :(

That explains why people have brain fog because that's directly connected to out memory an also severely impacts our emotions an reactions that could explain why I have a hard time controlling my reactions when I get angry on 700 mg of tren ace my hippocampus is probably severely saturated
 
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